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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:11 am

As stated in the title.

But Eddie the Lizard has other ideas, begging the WBO to postponed the mandatory defence so they can fight Manny's ex-sparring partner again.

Crawford has been mandatory for quiet a while now so deserves his shot and I think Top Rank will make sure Crawford is next as he is unbeaten and has the potential to be a decent belt holder.

Burns v Crawford with the winner facing Beltran.

Who would want to watch a Burns rematch with Beltran anyway. He got embarrassed and I'm guessing the crowd that was there would be thinking twice about paying again to watch it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/24895602 (forgot to put that in first time)

Anyway, thoughts?


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:14 am

Why isn't he fighting Beltran ????

Poor b*****d gets robbed with no comeback.............

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:16 am

Either way you'd slate him reborn, he rematches Beltran he's ducking Crawford, he fights Crawford he's ducking Beltran. The anti Hearn brigade seemingly complain no matter what he does.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:28 am

He is quickly becoming a joke champion is Burns.

Had a mandatory against Ghonzales....then Beltran brought in for a soft defence.....now the want another voluntary. Crawford was ahead of Beltran in the rankings and was due to face the winner. Think its only fair that Crawford gets his shot like he is supposed too. Then maybe defend against Beltran.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:29 am

Certainly been surprised the way Burns stock has dropped over the last year or so.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:30 am

Anti Hearn??

The only complaints iv had about Hearn is Froch v Groves and this situation.

I want to see Burns face Crawford as Crawford is mandatory. I want Beltran to get another shot, just not against Burns. He already beat him in most peoples eyes.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:32 am

I want Beltran to fight Burns...........

Burns say's he was injured.......Beltran deserves another shot and it was a pretty good fight.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:32 am

And it doesnt matter anyway Hammer, Top Rank will get Crawford that belt by any means, either by Burns forced to fight him or Burns getting stripped. Beltran v Crawford for the vacate belt would be perfect. Bob has more influence than Ed.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:33 am

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:And it doesnt matter anyway Hammer, Top Rank will get Crawford that belt by any means, either by Burns forced to fight him or Burns getting stripped. Beltran v Crawford for the vacate belt would be perfect. Bob has more influence than Ed.
Not with the WBO..............Very pro-British.........and rightly so the amount of money Warren has made for them over the years.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:34 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I want Beltran to fight Burns...........

Burns say's he was injured.......Beltran deserves another shot and it was a pretty good fight.
I agree partially Truss. I want Beltran to fight for the belt that he should own. But not against Burns in Scotland again. Burns had a broken jaw in that fight, ring rust in the previous one....wonder what the next reason will be..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:35 am

Donaire, Rigo, Rios, Alvarado, Provodnikov, Juanma, Manny, Salido, Martinez, Mikey Garcia, Bradley.....they have been good to Top Rank as well over the last couple of years.


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Post by Gerry SA Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:36 am

Eddie Hearn claims he's trying to get a unification fight with either Vazquez(IBF) or Abril(WBA).

Burns gets humiliated by both.

Fight with Crawford would be in America, as TR and HBO have more cash than Hearn.

Crawford would easily take the belt of Burns.

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Post by Strongback Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:49 am

Could Eddie have 3 fighters stripped of their belts in little more than 3 weeks?

Would that be some kind of record for a promoter?


This never would have happened under Warren. Frank has one of those red flashing telephones with a direct link to the President of the WBO.


Burns isn't tip top world class and should have been happy making good money while holding a shiny belt under Warren.


Did Burns get greedy or a bit deluded about his ability? Be careful what you wish for.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:50 am

Are you an ex-girlfriend of Eddie Hearn by any chance..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:54 am

This reminds me of when Clev was ordered to face Sukhotski or something and Warren personally flew out to the WBO head quarters pleading with them to let Clev fight another voluntary defence..on his knees actually begging..... apparently Whistle 
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Post by Strongback Tue 12 Nov 2013, 11:55 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Are you an ex-girlfriend of Eddie Hearn by any chance..
It was a genuine question though. Two belts stripped and now potentially another. Is that a record?


Hearn hit the scene with a huge PR campaign and did a lot of spoofing in iFilm London interviews and on Twitter. Some people are holding up a mirror to that and I'm one of them.

I know their agenda is to get a strangle hold on British boxing and I think that's a bad thing.

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Post by Guest Tue 12 Nov 2013, 12:17 pm

BURNS v CRAWFORD?

How does Frank Spencer get a World Title Shot?

Nothing surprises me these days!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 1:28 pm

DAVE667 wrote:BURNS v CRAWFORD?

How does Frank Spencer get a World Title Shot?

Nothing surprises me these days!

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If he is as quick in the ring as he is on roller skates he'd make Meldrick Taylor look ordinary..


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Post by Lance Tue 12 Nov 2013, 1:53 pm

as long as he fights either Beltran or Crawford im happy. both good tough fights. no way does he deserve an easy one after the last two.

he has two good options there. if he vacates the belt or finds a way to fight crolla then we know what they are up to then.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Tue 12 Nov 2013, 6:31 pm

Crawford is a great fight and he is the mandatory challenger.

Whoever wins should then fight Beltran.

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Post by Lance Tue 12 Nov 2013, 6:36 pm

If he has two options yet hes looking for a unification, then it seems to me they are looking for a way out.

whats the chances of a unification fight scheduled, then Vazquez gets injured and Crolla has to step in?

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 12 Nov 2013, 7:37 pm

Bit of a hard spot for Ricky, going after Belgian is what he wants and what the public feels is right but Crawford has been biding his time and it's not fair on him to be sidestepped, especially given he will probably deal with Burns without too much trouble

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 12 Nov 2013, 8:41 pm

Was watching Crawford this morning as it happens, he is very good, made Prescott look very poor up at 140 lbs too. Think he really gives it to Burns to win a decision or possibly stop him late on.

I don't see why it's such a travesty though the rematch with Beltran happening. I also didn't think it was the worst decision ever (A draw not the one judge that had Burns up by 2) very questionable but can actually get to there personally, though it is giving Burns every credit imaginable throughout the fight.

Think he beats Beltran in a rematch without the jaw broken aswell personally, think he is more adaptable than Beltran is. But Crawford, I just cannot see him winning. To be fair any unification fight is more than acceptable also. All of the options sound good, personally I would prefer to see the rematch with Beltran. There's no way it happens in America because there's no money for the fight over there, but a rematch in Scotland would probably do well. Crawford to get the shot against the winner of that fight, which probably ends up meaning Crawford will be the 135lb champ, and chances are he dominates that division from then on.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed 13 Nov 2013, 10:12 am

Crawford has been mandatory for quiet a while now and was supposed to get a shot after the previous Burns v Beltran match. If I was him i'd be rightly peeved. Why wait?? He fought his way to a shot and just because Beltran got shafted isn't Crawfords fault. He was mandatory when that fight happened and he had to wait, so why wait again??

Get the fight and try to win the belt. As Beltran is also Top Rank, he will surely get another chance to fight for it.
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