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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:16 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2511746/Carl-Froch-v-George-Groves-weigh-LIVE.html



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Post by Fists of Fury Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:11 pm

Both in good knick. Both mean business.

Let's hope it's a good'un.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:14 pm

Agree Fury.

Should be good, but now ive seen the weigh in and final presser, I think Groves in in over his head here and gets stopped around 6 similar to Bute.

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Post by hampo17 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:14 pm

No sign of nerves from Groves then, looked composed while Carl looked a little to pumped to me. Constantly whispering sweet nothings in Georges ear rather than having a face to face, and then going back for seconds after they had been separated.

Really hope this is a good fight, Groves just has to be competitive for his standing to improve for me, if not then it knocks him back a fair few levels.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:15 pm

Groves looks like a sick child
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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:17 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Groves looks like a sick child

Think he may have just realised he has bitten off more than he can chew here..........

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Post by KingMonkey Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:18 pm

You're watching a different stream to me. I thought Groves looked massively up for it.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:18 pm

Can't wait to see this on YouTube. War Cobra!

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:20 pm

His face just looks even more pastier and paler than normal with that big massive blue hat on.

Looks a bit drained. But maybe its just the big bulky clothes etc. I didn't see the actual weigh in. Will have a look at the pics now

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Post by KingMonkey Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:21 pm

Didn't look at all drained. He looked solid, healthy and up for it. Certainly wasn't backing down!

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Post by hampo17 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:24 pm

KingMonkey wrote:Didn't look at all drained.  He looked solid, healthy and up for it.  Certainly wasn't backing down!
This. Yesterday at the press conference I thought Groves looked nervous, and when he started shouting at the end of the stare down a few alarm bells started going off. However today he looked calm, didn't say a word and just looked straight back at Froch. Compare that to Froch who wanted to go back at Groves after security stepped in, Groves looked very calm and as if he knew exactly what he has to do.

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Post by Steffan Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:25 pm

Quite amusing listening to the Froch fans shouting/slurring. They need to be careful...wouldnt wanna lose that one braincell between them

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:26 pm

His face just looks a bit sucked in. Seen the Groves pic but cant find the Froch one. Take it he is chiselled as usual?
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Post by Fists of Fury Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:30 pm

Yeah Froch looking ripped.

Groves played the weigh in very well I thought...he had his game face on, didn't look at all intimidated and managed to keep his composure whilst maintaining a look screaming (not literally) 'I mean business'.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:32 pm

Wonder if Groves has overtrained...........Come in over a pound under.........

Hope not..

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:37 pm

He probably wants to be as nimble as possible, Truss. I reckon he plans on dancing round Froch

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:48 pm

What did big snout weigh in at?
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Post by hampo17 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:49 pm

11st 13lbs.

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Post by Steffan Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:50 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:What did big snout weigh in at?
Not sure yet. Apparently it takes longer to weigh old nosey as his ego needs to be taken into consideration

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:54 pm

How much higher do you rate Calzaghe?? Steffan.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:00 pm

Just reading up on SKY that Froch has told Groves he's in trouble and that David Haye will tell him the same thing. What's Haye got to do with the price of fish?

Anyone else thing Froch's obsession with Haye mirrors that of STRONGY? Listening to the bluff, bluster and bravado, it's not hard to imagine they're the same person and, with constant references to lack of respect coupled with that big nose of his you can see how Froch/Strongy got that chip on his shoulder

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:03 pm

He might be obsessed but I doubt he'll stink the ring out and then show us his feet If he loses......

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Post by Steffan Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:03 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How much higher do you rate Calzaghe?? Steffan.
Calzaghe is steak

Froch is corned beef

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:08 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He might be obsessed but I doubt he'll stink the ring out and then show us his feet If he loses......
However, he'll more than likely spend three years telling everyone he didn't actually lose

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Post by hogey Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:12 pm

Groves looked very calm and ready to go, watching it you would think he was the seasoned fighter at this level and Froch was like the edgy novice trying clumsily to intimidate his opponent but failing miserably.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:13 pm

Hope I'm wrong but I just can't see how Groves is going to win........Froch has the longer reach, The better chin and more power.......

Groves may have a better jab but I can see him caught sticking it........

Chuck in the Booth stuff and his new trainer looking like a Yes Man as someone alluded to earlier........

Not good.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:13 pm

Froch could do with a decent PR man or just a PR man!

It's paint by numbers stuff

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Post by hogey Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:22 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Hope I'm wrong but I just can't see how Groves is going to win........Froch has the longer reach, The better chin and more power.......

Groves may have a better jab but I can see him caught sticking it........

Chuck in the Booth stuff and his new trainer looking like a Yes Man as someone alluded to earlier........

Not good.
You could probably say he had all those advantages against Dirrell, Ward and Taylor and all boxed his ears off, remains to be seen if Groves can box to the level required to win but no doubt in my mind that Froch can be out boxed if the right skills are possessed and the game plan followed. I think the power thing is subjective because i think Groves has the better one punch power and added to his very good timing he always has a chance to land an absolute peach which could put Froch on his backside as he comes in, but Froch has the heavier hands and will hurt you with everything he throws.
I think Froch forcing a stoppage is the most likely outcome but theres no result in this one would surprise me.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:25 pm

Only Ward beat him though............and Ward is exceptional..

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:28 pm

And Kessler..

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Post by hampo17 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:29 pm

Froch on Groves a couple of years ago, Carl must know he has the ability to trouble him and that he could have to stop him late on.

Spoiler:

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:32 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:And Kessler..
Wasn't one of his examples..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:34 pm

According to Froch the Kessler one doesn't count because he beat him in a rematch.....only is a Froch world eh?
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:37 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:According to Froch the Kessler one doesn't count because he beat him in a rematch.....only is a Froch world eh?
Can we re-evaluate Joe Louis then as he beat Schmeling in their rematch?

Lennox Lewis also looks tremendous using the Carl Froch method of judging a fighter

Although neither of them look as good as Carl Froch

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Post by Strongback Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:38 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Just reading up on SKY that Froch has told Groves he's in trouble and that David Haye will tell him the same thing. What's Haye got to do with the price of fish?

Anyone else thing Froch's obsession with Haye mirrors that of STRONGY? Listening to the bluff, bluster and bravado, it's not hard to imagine they're the same person and, with constant references to lack of respect coupled with that big nose of his you can see how Froch/Strongy got that chip on his shoulder
Part of the banter between Groves and Froch was which one of them is better mates with David Haye.  You were a bit off the mark there with that post in all respects which isn't unusual.


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Post by hogey Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:38 pm

Fair point Truss, that said i thought Dirrell was the clear winner to be fair and anywhere else in the a world Froch loses his title that night. The Taylor fight in some ways could give Groves more encouragement than any other though because Froch was really hurt on a few occasions and put down by a man boxing well and timing his shots for when Froch comes charging forward just the kind of tactics Groves will surely use.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Froch has got into a top 10 p4p list...........Has become a hugely respected fighter around the world and is British....

Why not just be proud you have someone like him...........Because no one else is near him over here pertaining to achievement........

Saw this with Hatton............The more succesful he gets the more he is trashed..

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Just reading up on SKY that Froch has told Groves he's in trouble and that David Haye will tell him the same thing. What's Haye got to do with the price of fish?

Anyone else thing Froch's obsession with Haye mirrors that of STRONGY? Listening to the bluff, bluster and bravado, it's not hard to imagine they're the same person and, with constant references to lack of respect coupled with that big nose of his you can see how Froch/Strongy got that chip on his shoulder
Part of the banter between Groves and Froch was which one of them is better mates with David Haye.  You were a bit off the mark there with that post in all respects which isn't unusual.
Back to have your ar$e handed to you again STRONGY?
Really beginning to think you're just a stupid, stupid little man!

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:48 pm

Saw the weigh-in. Thought both looked fine. Groves looked angry and focussed. Froch was a bit rowdier. Nothing to be read into it really. On to the fight.

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Post by Liam Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:50 pm

Glad i'm not the only one who thought Dirrell won the Froch fight

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:52 pm

I thought he won as well but could see why it was given to froch in the UK.

Like the old saying goes, you have to rip it from the champ in his backyard, not cruise to a decision.

If he had opened up more, hit him harder, put power into his combinations then fine. But he boxed like a challenger and not like a champion

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Post by Strongback Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:58 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Just reading up on SKY that Froch has told Groves he's in trouble and that David Haye will tell him the same thing. What's Haye got to do with the price of fish?

Anyone else thing Froch's obsession with Haye mirrors that of STRONGY? Listening to the bluff, bluster and bravado, it's not hard to imagine they're the same person and, with constant references to lack of respect coupled with that big nose of his you can see how Froch/Strongy got that chip on his shoulder
Part of the banter between Groves and Froch was which one of them is better mates with David Haye.  You were a bit off the mark there with that post in all respects which isn't unusual.
Back to have your ar$e handed to you again STRONGY?
Really beginning to think you're just a stupid, stupid little man!

I'd like to see you going up against 8 or 9 posters.

As to your last post it's hot air and childish insults. You were having a go at Froch and then me when you really didn't know what your were talking about. That's the fact here.

You're a waffler of epic proportions.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:03 pm

Strong and Dave - please stop derailing this thread with insults. It is tiring and of no benefit to anybody - pack it in.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:04 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Just reading up on SKY that Froch has told Groves he's in trouble and that David Haye will tell him the same thing. What's Haye got to do with the price of fish?

Anyone else thing Froch's obsession with Haye mirrors that of STRONGY? Listening to the bluff, bluster and bravado, it's not hard to imagine they're the same person and, with constant references to lack of respect coupled with that big nose of his you can see how Froch/Strongy got that chip on his shoulder
Part of the banter between Groves and Froch was which one of them is better mates with David Haye.  You were a bit off the mark there with that post in all respects which isn't unusual.
Back to have your ar$e handed to you again STRONGY?
Really beginning to think you're just a stupid, stupid little man!
I'd like to see you going up against 8 or 9 posters.

As to your last post it's hot air and childish insults.  You were having a go at Froch and then me when you really didn't know what your were talking about.  That's the fact here.  

You're a waffler of epic proportions.
8 or 9 posters against one Yorkshireman...it's not fair. Go get some help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Hot air and childish insults" and this coming from the "meat trombone" guy. You silly silly SILLY little man.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Anyone know timings for this?

Ringwalks etc?

I'm sure they won't be pandering to the US (can't imagine there's the interest) but are we talking about 8pm start with Froch-Groves ringwalks 10.30ish, d'you think??

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:07 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:Strong and Dave - please stop derailing this thread with insults. It is tiring and of no benefit to anybody - pack it in.
They both like UFC mate.......That's the common denominator !!......Boxing fans don't behave like this!!thumbsup 

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:08 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Seanusarrilius wrote:Strong and Dave - please stop derailing this thread with insults. It is tiring and of no benefit to anybody - pack it in.
They both like UFC mate.......That's the common denominator !!......Boxing fans don't behave like this!!thumbsup 
No, they just punch defenceless drunks in pubs then come onto the boards claiming they've "still got it"

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:09 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Seanusarrilius wrote:Strong and Dave - please stop derailing this thread with insults. It is tiring and of no benefit to anybody - pack it in.
They both like UFC mate.......That's the common denominator !!......Boxing fans don't behave like this!!thumbsup 
Tend to agree. Either way, they have had their warning. Let's be civil


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:11 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Seanusarrilius wrote:Strong and Dave - please stop derailing this thread with insults. It is tiring and of no benefit to anybody - pack it in.
They both like UFC mate.......That's the common denominator !!......Boxing fans don't behave like this!!thumbsup 
No, they just punch defenceless drunks in pubs then come onto the boards claiming they've "still got it"
You're in a feisty mood today aren't you.......

Calm down buddy.......It's only a commercial..

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:13 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Seanusarrilius wrote:Strong and Dave - please stop derailing this thread with insults. It is tiring and of no benefit to anybody - pack it in.
They both like UFC mate.......That's the common denominator !!......Boxing fans don't behave like this!!thumbsup 
Tend to agree. Either way, they arhave had their warning. Let's be civil
I apologise Sean but I'd spent a lot of time typing my last retort (I say typing, I mean backspacing and correcting) and didn't want to waste it.

STRONGY's just being really mean to me 9using big four and five letter words) and I'm too immature to respond in any meaningful way. Maybe it's because it's Friday...but then again, I've been a git all week so perhaps it's something else.

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