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How to score a Carl Froch fight
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Just to lighten the mood a little taken from 'chuckhookboxing''
How to score a Carl Froch fight
by
dftaylor
The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) have noticed a level of controversy around the stoppage and scoring of this weekend’s Carl Froch-George Groves IBF title fight at super-middleweight (12st).
While we understand that Mr Groves and his team are disappointed with the conclusion of the fight and the scores the judges had recorded, we wanted to put our criteria on the record. It is fair to say that a Carl Froch fight needs to be scored differently for a number of reasons:
1. Carl Froch is a “warrior”
2. Carl Froch has an “iron chin”
3. Carl Froch is an “international superstar”
4. Carl Froch is the “champion” and any opponent must “take it” from him
We ask that referees and judges keep these issues in mind during a fight. We accept that for the casual hardcore fan however, these reasons may cause confusion as to the specific assessment our judges make during Mr Froch’s fights. To support you, and to offset any suggestion of impropriety (as the Board is and always will be above reproach or suspicion) we have compiled this quick guide to how to score a Carl Froch fight.
The criteria
1. If Carl lands more punches in the round, or the more damaging punches, he wins the round 10-9
2. If Carl’s opponent lands more punches, or the more damaging punches, Carl wins the round because “that’s how he fights”
3. If Carl is boxing on the back foot behind his jab, this is an example of his versatility and he wins the round
4. If Carl’s opponent is boxing on the back foot behind their jab, this is an example of them running away from Carl’s power, and Carl wins the round
5. If Carl punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, Carl wins the round because he’s doing damage that will “pay off down the stretch”
6. If the opponent punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, this is because Froch’s defence is “underrated” and his opponent is wearing himself out
7. If Carl knocks his opponent down, he wins the round 10-8 and gains additional “warrior” points* to spend throughout the remainder of the fight
8. If the opponent knocks Carl down and he gets up, this is down to his “iron chin” and Carl receives “warrior” points to spend throughout the remainder of the fight. He loses the round 10-8, but gains additional “iron chin” points. These points can be used to halt the referee from stopping the fight in your opponent’s favour – even if you have taken a career-altering beating.
Using these criteria, you can see it was correct that there was only a two-point margin in Mr Groves favour. It also explains why Howard Foster opted to stop the fight, since the amount of “iron chin” and “warrior points” Mr Froch had accumulated during the prior eight rounds left too large a gap for Mr Groves to overcome. It was the right thing to do because, as you know, the Board’s paramount concern is fighter safety.
We hope this helps with any further discussions you may engage in on this topic.
Yours,
The Board
*”Warrior” points are a relatively new addition to the BBBoC’s scoring criteria and deserve some clarification. We created them to ensure that fighters like Carl Froch, who fight with scant regard for defence or their health, have the opportunity to win fights against more skilled opposition.
For every clean shot or knockdown Carl suffers, or wild swing that he misses, he gets additional credit. He can then use these points to even up the scorecards, overlooking that unfair “defence” criterion, or in some cases encourage the referee to halt the fight in his favour when he lands any series of punches. The opponent’s condition is not a valid concern at this stage, since “warrior” points overrule any concerns about “fitness to continue”
Just to lighten the mood a little taken from 'chuckhookboxing''
How to score a Carl Froch fight
by
dftaylor
The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) have noticed a level of controversy around the stoppage and scoring of this weekend’s Carl Froch-George Groves IBF title fight at super-middleweight (12st).
While we understand that Mr Groves and his team are disappointed with the conclusion of the fight and the scores the judges had recorded, we wanted to put our criteria on the record. It is fair to say that a Carl Froch fight needs to be scored differently for a number of reasons:
1. Carl Froch is a “warrior”
2. Carl Froch has an “iron chin”
3. Carl Froch is an “international superstar”
4. Carl Froch is the “champion” and any opponent must “take it” from him
We ask that referees and judges keep these issues in mind during a fight. We accept that for the casual hardcore fan however, these reasons may cause confusion as to the specific assessment our judges make during Mr Froch’s fights. To support you, and to offset any suggestion of impropriety (as the Board is and always will be above reproach or suspicion) we have compiled this quick guide to how to score a Carl Froch fight.
The criteria
1. If Carl lands more punches in the round, or the more damaging punches, he wins the round 10-9
2. If Carl’s opponent lands more punches, or the more damaging punches, Carl wins the round because “that’s how he fights”
3. If Carl is boxing on the back foot behind his jab, this is an example of his versatility and he wins the round
4. If Carl’s opponent is boxing on the back foot behind their jab, this is an example of them running away from Carl’s power, and Carl wins the round
5. If Carl punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, Carl wins the round because he’s doing damage that will “pay off down the stretch”
6. If the opponent punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, this is because Froch’s defence is “underrated” and his opponent is wearing himself out
7. If Carl knocks his opponent down, he wins the round 10-8 and gains additional “warrior” points* to spend throughout the remainder of the fight
8. If the opponent knocks Carl down and he gets up, this is down to his “iron chin” and Carl receives “warrior” points to spend throughout the remainder of the fight. He loses the round 10-8, but gains additional “iron chin” points. These points can be used to halt the referee from stopping the fight in your opponent’s favour – even if you have taken a career-altering beating.
Using these criteria, you can see it was correct that there was only a two-point margin in Mr Groves favour. It also explains why Howard Foster opted to stop the fight, since the amount of “iron chin” and “warrior points” Mr Froch had accumulated during the prior eight rounds left too large a gap for Mr Groves to overcome. It was the right thing to do because, as you know, the Board’s paramount concern is fighter safety.
We hope this helps with any further discussions you may engage in on this topic.
Yours,
The Board
*”Warrior” points are a relatively new addition to the BBBoC’s scoring criteria and deserve some clarification. We created them to ensure that fighters like Carl Froch, who fight with scant regard for defence or their health, have the opportunity to win fights against more skilled opposition.
For every clean shot or knockdown Carl suffers, or wild swing that he misses, he gets additional credit. He can then use these points to even up the scorecards, overlooking that unfair “defence” criterion, or in some cases encourage the referee to halt the fight in his favour when he lands any series of punches. The opponent’s condition is not a valid concern at this stage, since “warrior” points overrule any concerns about “fitness to continue”
ErmanH- Posts : 155
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
A couple more
Carl Froch's trainer is to be deemed the gospel on talks in the corner, all advice given should be taken for the fight as if it has been implemented the following round regardless of if it is or isn't.
When building up hype for the fight, you are not allowed to talk badly about Carl Froch or any of his opponents or performances. Highlighting any discrepancies in what Carl has said over the years will be instantly seen as disrespectful and thus loses you the fight at the first available opportunity.
Carl Froch's trainer is to be deemed the gospel on talks in the corner, all advice given should be taken for the fight as if it has been implemented the following round regardless of if it is or isn't.
When building up hype for the fight, you are not allowed to talk badly about Carl Froch or any of his opponents or performances. Highlighting any discrepancies in what Carl has said over the years will be instantly seen as disrespectful and thus loses you the fight at the first available opportunity.
JabMachineMK2- Posts : 2383
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
999 ring Carl Froch in a case of emergency
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
www.carlfrochfacts.com
Or is that Chuck Norris Facts?
Or is that Chuck Norris Facts?
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
Between rounds, McCracken doesn't speak to Carl, he just kneels before him and worships the warrior
Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
The only reason Ward beat Froch is because someone forgot to dig up the trench that morning.
Why didn't Carl dig it up himself, you ask? Because Warriors don't dig up trenches!!
Why didn't Carl dig it up himself, you ask? Because Warriors don't dig up trenches!!
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
Warriors like Carl Froch fight in the trenches, they know all about trench warfare like all warriors. Carls very own trench is emblazoned with the posters of previous warriors like himself who fight in the trenches like Ghengis Khan, Julius Cesar, Tamerlane and William Wallace. If anyone likes warriors they can catch this sight at
Carl Froch Fighting
Trench Avenue
Warriorville
Trench City
TR3 7CH
Carl Froch Fighting
Trench Avenue
Warriorville
Trench City
TR3 7CH
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
Carl Froch's website
http://www.power-systems.com/n-432-trench-warriors.aspx
http://www.power-systems.com/n-432-trench-warriors.aspx
Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
Carl Froch is a warrior therefore he can shout 'WARRIORRRRRRRrrrrrr' at any point during a fight and the referee must therefore jump-in and call an immediate stoppage victory for the 'WARRIORRRRRRrrrrr'!!!!
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
Carl's next entrance music will be a reworking of the Bad News classic
It will now be "Warriors of Carl Froch"
It will now be "Warriors of Carl Froch"
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
Genghis Khan is descendant of Carl Froch...
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
.....and Amir Khan, which makes the two of them WARRIOR BROTHERS!!!!kingraf wrote:Genghis Khan is descendant of Carl Froch...
Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
In his sideline as a porn star, 'carl crotch' is harder than Ron Jeremy on Viagra, has endless stamina and comes on strong in the championship rounds. He has never had a soft stoppage.
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Re: How to score a Carl Froch fight
I'm going to have to conceed the comedy award to Milky here boys - I somewhat plagiarised part of one of his Froch-dotes about the referee and still find his funnier than mine.
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