New European Rugby cup (or whatever it is called) - Qualification agreed

First topic message reminder :

"Rugby Union is too complicated to understand to attract a mass audience in the first place."

which is the problem for union fans..

because otherwise league or NFL could overtake rugby and kill it.

Off course the reality is it isnt to complicated and by far the best form, but if union doesn't progress(as at the moment it is by far the biggest global rugby type game) others will over take

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

stub wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

Oh jebus...I guess I have to explain myself or else Captain Mainwaring and Dad's Army will have a heart attack...I used to be DOD which are the initials for Declan Kidney in Irish (Gaelic) and then I changed to ME-109 due to Joe Schmidt taking charge of the Irish team....

stub wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

you realise of course that the affirmation of godwin's law came not from the plane, but from his post that got censored by biltong? don't want you to think i was the one who took it to that level here.

quinsforever wrote:

stub wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

you realise of course that the affirmation of godwin's law came not from the plane, but from his post that got censored by biltong? don't want you to think i was the one who took it to that level here.

Ah bless...  

quinsforever wrote:

stub wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

you realise of course that the affirmation of godwin's law came not from the plane, but from his post that got censored by biltong? don't want you to think i was the one who took it to that level here.

I think I missed that - Goebbels perhaps?

If indeed ME109 is not named after some unpleasant Nazi war machine, then that is good news to me.

Have to say though Schmit, I'm not quite ready for Dad's Army yet...   

Anyway, here is probably not the place for that stuff as here I like to think we are mainly messing about. Then, we most certainly weren't - that is the past and definitely best left just there.

stub wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

stub wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

you realise of course that the affirmation of godwin's law came not from the plane, but from his post that got censored by biltong? don't want you to think i was the one who took it to that level here.

I think I missed that - Goebbels perhaps?

If indeed ME109 is not named after some unpleasant Nazi war machine, then that is good news to me.

Have to say though Schmit, I'm not quite ready for Dad's Army yet...   

Anyway, here is probably not the place for that stuff as here I like to think we are mainly messing about. Then, we most certainly weren't - that is the past and definitely best left just there.

To look for insult where non is intended is a very interesting tool in online discussion. To quote Godwins law is both amusing and also wide of the mark. Still if it changes the discussion away from the lack of any depth in terms of the protagonists and the repeated attempts to say one thing and mean another is also a good tool.

Doesn't change the dearth of anything new nor the fact that it still comes down to apologising for the grubby nature of the PRLs attempt to take control of NH club rugby.   

quinsforever wrote:

stub wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

stub wrote:Hey Munckin - you're a good person I think. RRW can actually voice their opinion as much as they like as can we all. Well in my opinion anyway... The talk of Nazis and Messerschmitts is making me quite depressed tonight. I would have thought that would unite us even if we are arguing the toss over the most trivial of matters.   

Thankyou   

Maybe it could be viewed from both sides of the argument. In online debates it has to happen, but once you understand Godwin's Law it becomes slightly less depressing.

Godwins law will come up pretty fast if you name yourself after a Nazi plane!! I always thought Focker Wolfs were cooler!   But of course Spitfires + Hurricanes did Ok..

Still, I'm sure that there are other reasons at play here.

Still Munch =   I'm sure.

you realise of course that the affirmation of godwin's law came not from the plane, but from his post that got censored by biltong? don't want you to think i was the one who took it to that level here.

I didn't think it was about a plane. I did read the posts. Have to admit though that the use of ME 109 is quite clever   
Think ME 109 was just winding you up, and to be fair you have been in   form today. This I know   

Soooo back to fighting about silly stuff. Ding! ding!  

Munch quoted Godwins Schmit.... And he's an   

I'm pretty sure he wasn't deflecting away from protagonists and whatnots.

am very calm now munchkin. was a bit out of sorts several hours ago when i was a bit stroppy with you, so yes apols for that.

if nazi-plane ever makes an actual point rather than just accusing and abusing i'd be more than happy to engage. suspect he's not capable or willing at this juncture though. he just sounds like the kid who is worried about having his toys nicked by the bigger kid in the playground at the moment.

Still nothing new lads...come on...should do better.

Anything new on the PRL attempt to take over control of NH rugby or are you all going to pretend this is not the point and its about qualification or some other high brow reason   

rumbled. the PRL plot to take over the cash cow that is Munster rugby....bared for all the world to see. what was maccafferty thinking?

quinsforever wrote:rumbled. the PRL plot to take over the cash cow that is Munster rugby....bared for all the world to see. what was maccafferty thinking?

Oh come on QF...you are getting desperate now. The attempted insults are very poor....

nah, just marking time waiting for you to make an actual point

why would you feel insulted? i was agreeing with your supposition

quinsforever wrote:why would you feel insulted? i was agreeing with your supposition

I don't...I am just waiting for the record to change....  

it aint changing. get used to the music because you're going to have to learn to dance to it.   

quinsforever wrote:it aint changing. get used to the music because you're going to have to learn to dance to it.   

Much clearer...and more obvious than your other obfuscations.....however the fat lady hasn't even started preparing to sing yet.

quinsforever wrote:rumbled. the PRL plot to take over the cash cow that is Munster rugby....bared for all the world to see. what was maccafferty thinking?

Quins were patting themselves on the back last year for the Heineken Cup quarter for resisting the move to make loads of cash from visiting Munster by moving the game to Twickers (terrified that Munster supporters would outnumber them in their home game).

As it turned out, the Quins fans flogged their tickets to Munster supporters so as to make a bit of cash themselves. Feck the club!

I see thornley has said that the rfu proposal is a no goer and that it was initially in October anyway as the governance wasn't agreed nor has the BT deal. 

Still the same case then if he is right. I won't put up the article as its just one sided in its view and the only thing of note is that his 'sources' don't believe it is an option.

for all the HC debate fans. a little perspective. from one of my favourite movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbsx_vZTcNI

and just cause i love you all, here's my favourite scene from the film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066BFGk6QvA

enjoy   

you are all right, baby.
good clips.
nice.

Cant beat a bit of Philip Seymour Hoffman.

So thanks Quinns you done me a solid. I have never seen that film and am looking for one to watch.

seymour hoffman is the best, bar none.

enjoy. although the broken window scene is the best one in the film for me. but i love dramatised documentaries so it's still a great flick.

quinsforever wrote:it aint changing. get used to the music because you're going to have to learn to dance to it.   

However quins - what is quite clear is that the english will be dancing on their own unless they join our song.

TJ, i refer you to this which i posted above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbsx_vZTcNI

swings and roundabouts my friend.

Canal+ to sue LNR

L’attaque de Canal+ devant les tribunaux est maintenant imminente. Selon nos informations, un courrier signé de l'avocat de la chaîne cryptée a été reçu, ce mardi, à la Ligue nationale de rugby (LNR). Il vise à contester les conditions du lancement de l'appel d'offres sur les droits du Top 14 pour la période 2014-2018, dont les réponses sont attendues pour le 13 janvier. Rappelons qu'après avoir négocié de gré à gré avec Canal+, la LNR a finalement résilié les deux dernières années de contrat qu'elle avait avec la chaîne cryptée. Qui s'estime flouée.

«Mon client a expressément contesté votre capacité à exercer ces clauses de résiliation, écrit l'avocat de Canal+, et il vous revenait en conséquence d’interrompre l’appel d'offres. Vous l'avez informé que vous n’entendiez pas donner une suite favorable à sa demande. Mon client maintient néanmoins sa position. Compte tenu de la consultation du marché à laquelle la LNR s’est livrée, de la négociation de gré à gré très approfondie nouée avec mon client qui ont dû s’engager fermement sur une offre financière, la voie de la résiliation des contrats et du lancement d’un appel d’offres ne vous était plus ouverte. Les termes des contrats qui unissent la LNR à mon client comme la loyauté requise dans les relations contractuelles s’y opposaient.»

En conséquence, l'avocat de Canal+ prévient la LNR. Si elle ne met pas un terme immédiat à l'appel d'offres, la chaîne cryptée lui a demandé «par voie judiciaire de prendre toute mesure de nature à sauvegarder ses droits».

not suing yet actually. they are trying to get them to cancel the auction. they are upset that their bid (of EUR65m) for contract extension got leaked.

dont know much about french law, but in any legal system it will be hard to force LNR not to hold an auction which they have every right to do.

if they did something uncontractual then i imagine there could be some compensation due Canal+.

geoff998rugby wrote:Canal+ to sue LNR

L’attaque de Canal+ devant les tribunaux est maintenant imminente. Selon nos informations, un courrier signé de l'avocat de la chaîne cryptée a été reçu, ce mardi, à la Ligue nationale de rugby (LNR). Il vise à contester les conditions du lancement de l'appel d'offres sur les droits du Top 14 pour la période 2014-2018, dont les réponses sont attendues pour le 13 janvier. Rappelons qu'après avoir négocié de gré à gré avec Canal+, la LNR a finalement résilié les deux dernières années de contrat qu'elle avait avec la chaîne cryptée. Qui s'estime flouée.

«Mon client a expressément contesté votre capacité à exercer ces clauses de résiliation, écrit l'avocat de Canal+, et il vous revenait en conséquence d’interrompre l’appel d'offres. Vous l'avez informé que vous n’entendiez pas donner une suite favorable à sa demande. Mon client maintient néanmoins sa position. Compte tenu de la consultation du marché à laquelle la LNR s’est livrée, de la négociation de gré à gré très approfondie nouée avec mon client qui ont dû s’engager fermement sur une offre financière, la voie de la résiliation des contrats et du lancement d’un appel d’offres ne vous était plus ouverte. Les termes des contrats qui unissent la LNR à mon client comme la loyauté requise dans les relations contractuelles s’y opposaient.»

En conséquence, l'avocat de Canal+ prévient la LNR. Si elle ne met pas un terme immédiat à l'appel d'offres, la chaîne cryptée lui a demandé «par voie judiciaire de prendre toute mesure de nature à sauvegarder ses droits».

Well I hope French rugby stays on Canal+. Back in the US I get Canal+ on my satellite TV. Gives me a chance to help my lads keep up with their school French lessons. Also, frequently Canal+ has a pretty girl on the broadcast so my lads get other benefits as well.

doctor_grey wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote:Canal+ to sue LNR

L’attaque de Canal+ devant les tribunaux est maintenant imminente. Selon nos informations, un courrier signé de l'avocat de la chaîne cryptée a été reçu, ce mardi, à la Ligue nationale de rugby (LNR). Il vise à contester les conditions du lancement de l'appel d'offres sur les droits du Top 14 pour la période 2014-2018, dont les réponses sont attendues pour le 13 janvier. Rappelons qu'après avoir négocié de gré à gré avec Canal+, la LNR a finalement résilié les deux dernières années de contrat qu'elle avait avec la chaîne cryptée. Qui s'estime flouée.

«Mon client a expressément contesté votre capacité à exercer ces clauses de résiliation, écrit l'avocat de Canal+, et il vous revenait en conséquence d’interrompre l’appel d'offres. Vous l'avez informé que vous n’entendiez pas donner une suite favorable à sa demande. Mon client maintient néanmoins sa position. Compte tenu de la consultation du marché à laquelle la LNR s’est livrée, de la négociation de gré à gré très approfondie nouée avec mon client qui ont dû s’engager fermement sur une offre financière, la voie de la résiliation des contrats et du lancement d’un appel d’offres ne vous était plus ouverte. Les termes des contrats qui unissent la LNR à mon client comme la loyauté requise dans les relations contractuelles s’y opposaient.»

En conséquence, l'avocat de Canal+ prévient la LNR. Si elle ne met pas un terme immédiat à l'appel d'offres, la chaîne cryptée lui a demandé «par voie judiciaire de prendre toute mesure de nature à sauvegarder ses droits».

Well I hope French rugby stays on Canal+.  Back in the US I get Canal+ on my satellite TV.  Gives me a chance to help my lads keep up with their school French lessons.  Also, frequently Canal+ has a pretty girl on the broadcast so my lads get other benefits as well.  

Is she that Melissa girl?  I've got a thing for quite a few female newsreaders, but she is something else!

wow!

timhen wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote:Canal+ to sue LNR

L’attaque de Canal+ devant les tribunaux est maintenant imminente. Selon nos informations, un courrier signé de l'avocat de la chaîne cryptée a été reçu, ce mardi, à la Ligue nationale de rugby (LNR). Il vise à contester les conditions du lancement de l'appel d'offres sur les droits du Top 14 pour la période 2014-2018, dont les réponses sont attendues pour le 13 janvier. Rappelons qu'après avoir négocié de gré à gré avec Canal+, la LNR a finalement résilié les deux dernières années de contrat qu'elle avait avec la chaîne cryptée. Qui s'estime flouée.

«Mon client a expressément contesté votre capacité à exercer ces clauses de résiliation, écrit l'avocat de Canal+, et il vous revenait en conséquence d’interrompre l’appel d'offres. Vous l'avez informé que vous n’entendiez pas donner une suite favorable à sa demande. Mon client maintient néanmoins sa position. Compte tenu de la consultation du marché à laquelle la LNR s’est livrée, de la négociation de gré à gré très approfondie nouée avec mon client qui ont dû s’engager fermement sur une offre financière, la voie de la résiliation des contrats et du lancement d’un appel d’offres ne vous était plus ouverte. Les termes des contrats qui unissent la LNR à mon client comme la loyauté requise dans les relations contractuelles s’y opposaient.»

En conséquence, l'avocat de Canal+ prévient la LNR. Si elle ne met pas un terme immédiat à l'appel d'offres, la chaîne cryptée lui a demandé «par voie judiciaire de prendre toute mesure de nature à sauvegarder ses droits».

Well I hope French rugby stays on Canal+.  Back in the US I get Canal+ on my satellite TV.  Gives me a chance to help my lads keep up with their school French lessons.  Also, frequently Canal+ has a pretty girl on the broadcast so my lads get other benefits as well.  

Is she that Melissa girl?  I've got a thing for quite a few female newsreaders, but she is something else!

Mrs Murray no.4

At least they are talking

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/mediator-to-assist-latest-talks-on-the-future-of-european-club-rugby-1.1632240

Interestingly Stuart Lancaster wants the clubs to play in the HC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69O8xmIeenU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

geoff999rugby wrote:At least they are talking

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/mediator-to-assist-latest-talks-on-the-future-of-european-club-rugby-1.1632240

Interestingly Stuart Lancaster wants the clubs to play in the HC

Based on what? That article? There's nothing in it. No quote, meaningless.

quinsforever wrote:for all the HC debate fans. a little perspective. from one of my favourite movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbsx_vZTcNI

and just cause i love you all, here's my favourite scene from the film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066BFGk6QvA

enjoy   

Was just browsing the thread and viewed your clips quins.
A thousand thanks to you for that. I had forgotten about that flick and had always meant to watch it. What a great bit of viewing it was.........we'll see!!

doctor_grey wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote:Canal+ to sue LNR

L’attaque de Canal+ devant les tribunaux est maintenant imminente. Selon nos informations, un courrier signé de l'avocat de la chaîne cryptée a été reçu, ce mardi, à la Ligue nationale de rugby (LNR). Il vise à contester les conditions du lancement de l'appel d'offres sur les droits du Top 14 pour la période 2014-2018, dont les réponses sont attendues pour le 13 janvier. Rappelons qu'après avoir négocié de gré à gré avec Canal+, la LNR a finalement résilié les deux dernières années de contrat qu'elle avait avec la chaîne cryptée. Qui s'estime flouée.

«Mon client a expressément contesté votre capacité à exercer ces clauses de résiliation, écrit l'avocat de Canal+, et il vous revenait en conséquence d’interrompre l’appel d'offres. Vous l'avez informé que vous n’entendiez pas donner une suite favorable à sa demande. Mon client maintient néanmoins sa position. Compte tenu de la consultation du marché à laquelle la LNR s’est livrée, de la négociation de gré à gré très approfondie nouée avec mon client qui ont dû s’engager fermement sur une offre financière, la voie de la résiliation des contrats et du lancement d’un appel d’offres ne vous était plus ouverte. Les termes des contrats qui unissent la LNR à mon client comme la loyauté requise dans les relations contractuelles s’y opposaient.»

En conséquence, l'avocat de Canal+ prévient la LNR. Si elle ne met pas un terme immédiat à l'appel d'offres, la chaîne cryptée lui a demandé «par voie judiciaire de prendre toute mesure de nature à sauvegarder ses droits».

Well I hope French rugby stays on Canal+.  Back in the US I get Canal+ on my satellite TV.  Gives me a chance to help my lads keep up with their school French lessons.  Also, frequently Canal+ has a pretty girl on the broadcast so my lads get other benefits as well.  

Aah ... Isabelle   
She will be missed   

https://www.google.fr/search?q=isabelle+ithurburu&client=safari&hl=fr&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CD-zUvexC8m54ASC9YCAAg&ved=0CDsQ7Ak&biw=320&bih=356

HammerofThunor wrote:

geoff999rugby wrote:At least they are talking

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/mediator-to-assist-latest-talks-on-the-future-of-european-club-rugby-1.1632240

Interestingly Stuart Lancaster wants the clubs to play in the HC

Based on what? That article? There's nothing in it. No quote, meaningless.

I assume you are referring to the Stuart Lancaster comments rather than the fact a meeting is taking place.

The fact the meeting is taking place is highly significant

http://www.fonr.co.uk/news/news.php?id=000447

http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/La-convention-est-validee/426421

What reason would lancaster have not to have clubs play in the HC.

Its top competition between the nations clubs...all the best players. He wants his players to be competing in tournaments like this.

whocares wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:

geoff998rugby wrote:Canal+ to sue LNR

L’attaque de Canal+ devant les tribunaux est maintenant imminente. Selon nos informations, un courrier signé de l'avocat de la chaîne cryptée a été reçu, ce mardi, à la Ligue nationale de rugby (LNR). Il vise à contester les conditions du lancement de l'appel d'offres sur les droits du Top 14 pour la période 2014-2018, dont les réponses sont attendues pour le 13 janvier. Rappelons qu'après avoir négocié de gré à gré avec Canal+, la LNR a finalement résilié les deux dernières années de contrat qu'elle avait avec la chaîne cryptée. Qui s'estime flouée.

«Mon client a expressément contesté votre capacité à exercer ces clauses de résiliation, écrit l'avocat de Canal+, et il vous revenait en conséquence d’interrompre l’appel d'offres. Vous l'avez informé que vous n’entendiez pas donner une suite favorable à sa demande. Mon client maintient néanmoins sa position. Compte tenu de la consultation du marché à laquelle la LNR s’est livrée, de la négociation de gré à gré très approfondie nouée avec mon client qui ont dû s’engager fermement sur une offre financière, la voie de la résiliation des contrats et du lancement d’un appel d’offres ne vous était plus ouverte. Les termes des contrats qui unissent la LNR à mon client comme la loyauté requise dans les relations contractuelles s’y opposaient.»

En conséquence, l'avocat de Canal+ prévient la LNR. Si elle ne met pas un terme immédiat à l'appel d'offres, la chaîne cryptée lui a demandé «par voie judiciaire de prendre toute mesure de nature à sauvegarder ses droits».

Well I hope French rugby stays on Canal+.  Back in the US I get Canal+ on my satellite TV.  Gives me a chance to help my lads keep up with their school French lessons.  Also, frequently Canal+ has a pretty girl on the broadcast so my lads get other benefits as well.  

Aah ... Isabelle   
She will be missed   

https://www.google.fr/search?q=isabelle+ithurburu&client=safari&hl=fr&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CD-zUvexC8m54ASC9YCAAg&ved=0CDsQ7Ak&biw=320&bih=356

Pls can you let her know that she is also a candidate for Mrs Murray no.4, whocares?

geoff998rugby wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:

geoff999rugby wrote:At least they are talking

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/mediator-to-assist-latest-talks-on-the-future-of-european-club-rugby-1.1632240

Interestingly Stuart Lancaster wants the clubs to play in the HC

Based on what? That article? There's nothing in it. No quote, meaningless.

I assume you are referring to the Stuart Lancaster comments rather than the fact a meeting is taking place.

The fact the meeting is taking place is highly significant

Gatland claimed that 'Stuart Lancaster was gutted that the English clubs had pulled out of the Heineken Cup', according to the Welsh Regions Joint Supporters Group meeting with the Welsh Rugby Union.

Isabelle    

mystiroakey wrote:Isabelle    

Form an orderly queue pls, strokey!

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:Isabelle    

Form an orderly queue pls, strokey!

ASBO - you are too old for that lass - let it to us young uns   

She's married to Gonzalo Quesada, argentian manager of Stade Francais  

Riskysports wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:Isabelle    

Form an orderly queue pls, strokey!

ASBO - you are too old for that lass - let it to us young uns   

Yeah, alright then, junior, I'll stick with Melissa above

whocares wrote:She's married to Gonzalo Quesada, argentian manager of Stade Francais  

A mere detail, whocares

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

whocares wrote:She's married to Gonzalo Quesada, argentian manager of Stade Francais  

A mere detail, whocares

Yes you would be if he decided to have a go at you....   

Even though he's only a girly back.

One thing that occurs to me is - if, by some miracle, the meeting today, between all 6 Unions, comes to some sort of truce/agreement where does that leave the Welsh Regions ?