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Post by Strongback Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:27 pm

Have a look at this video.


http://instagram.com/p/h7hoPEBaVQ/#

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:29 pm

Just did a thread there now mate before I seen urs.

Defo looks suspicious . Apparently water is the only thing to be administered between rounds so this may lead to a N/C

What is Maidana thinkin hiring this clown.
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Post by Strongback Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:35 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Just did a thread there now mate before I seen urs.

Defo looks suspicious . Apparently water is the only thing to be administered between rounds so this may lead to a N/C

What is Maidana thinkin hiring this clown.


Both of the threads went up within a minute of each other.

Did you watch the video?

It looks like he is putting a pill in the napkin but the the way he puts the napkin up to Maidana's face it seems like it is something to be inhaled. Maybe it was something like smelling salts. Looks dodgy.

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Post by Steffan Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Its a disgrace. If indeed he is popping pills then he should be banned. Khan will want to avoid this druggie now if he is proven guilty

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Post by J.Benson II Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:04 pm

Looks like he was smelling salts. Banned in boxing but still commonly used.

Its probably ammonium carbonate & alcohol in a capsule that mixes when crushed and acts similar to the inhalants that paramedics use when someone loses consciousness.

I've used it myself and it really does wake you up.

Having said that, its not he was popping Halotestin pills.
Now that would really be major news.  censored 

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Post by Gerry SA Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:07 pm

Steffan wrote:Its a disgrace. If indeed he is popping pills then he should be banned. Khan will want to avoid this druggie now if he is proven guilty
Khan will want to be fighting a bin man from Bolton to protect his glass jaw...

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Post by tunes666 Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:04 am

Definitely puts something in there, but does not mean its illegal. And he will know there was a camera there and media attention on him so would very much doubt he would do something illegal in front of the cam.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:48 am

Anything other than water is illegal Tunes.

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Post by tunes666 Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:27 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Anything other than water is illegal Tunes.

53:45 and 53:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob2XyHY2XuE#t=233

they are cotton sticks of some kind..

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Post by dangerous_mouse Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:46 am

Tunes thankyou for the link, been looking for this all day Wink

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Post by Strongback Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:12 am

tunes666 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Anything other than water is illegal Tunes.

53:45 and 53:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob2XyHY2XuE#t=233

they are cotton sticks of some kind..


The youtube video looks even more incriminating. To my eyes it looks like Ariza is holding the napkin over Maidana's nose. Ariza is not dealing with bleeding so why the napkin?

More fundamentally I would say wtf is Ariza doing in the corner at all. Why the need for a strength and conditioning coach during the fight?

A trainer and a cut man is all that is needed. I never understand why some corners have a second trainer also shouting information at the fighter, far too confusing.

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Post by KingMonkey Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:50 am

Unreal. So no sooner is an amazing result and superb fight finished we're now looking at it being overturned and Broner handed a bucket load of excuses.

To be fair though, if Peterson can still hold his title and keep the win over Khan then this should be no different. But that's a pretty poor benchmark.

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Post by jimdig Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:17 am

Rios got suspended until April 24th, what a joke. 5 months. He wouldn't have fought this side of April after taking such a beating.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:28 pm

I thought it looked like/was being described as ground up and snorted up his nose.

Broner's very keen to play the rematch card (despite it not being in the contract as they were too arrogant of the win) so we'll see how keen his is to carry-on playing it if this gets changed to a NC (God pray it doesn't).

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Post by Knowsit17 Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:49 pm

The training camp should be more tightly regulated by the authorities that handle this type of issue. Sorry but nobody could sit and tell me that the fighter can simply waltz to his corner and consume illegal substances right under the ref's nose, not to mention often in front of thousands of people, and that nothing more could be done to prevent it happening in future.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:55 pm

Anyone else hear about Rios failing a B test or something also??

Ariza is sounding dirtier by the day, fighters should be steering well clear of him.

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Post by Lance Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:12 pm

its cotton buds! clear as day. some people need their eyes testing. hes trying to get them in his nose to test for bleeding. after the doctor has just checked his nose out! that's why Maidana is flinching. hes hurt his nose.

Golden boy like to fling dirt around when a fighter loses. try to discredit the decision and save some reputation by casting doubt on the loss.

did the same with Khans loss to Peterson. long before the drug issue which was genuine. they were posting videos of a suspicious figure in the corner, despite knowing full well who he was and what he was doing.

Also posted fake pictures of the Hopkins, Pascal scorecard over the net, to try and prove wrong doing.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:21 pm

Really hope you're right, Lance.

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Post by Strongback Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:47 pm

Lance wrote:its cotton buds! clear as day. some people need their eyes testing. hes trying to get them in his nose to test for bleeding. after the doctor has just checked his nose out! that's why Maidana is flinching. hes hurt his nose.

Golden boy like to fling dirt around when a fighter loses. try to discredit the decision and save some reputation by casting doubt on the loss.

did the same with Khans loss to Peterson. long before the drug issue which was genuine. they were posting videos of a suspicious figure in the corner, despite knowing full well who he was and what he was doing.

Also posted fake pictures of the Hopkins, Pascal scorecard over the net, to try and prove wrong doing.
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Is Ariza the cut man as well now?

Why would he hold a napkin over a fighters face? I saw no blood.

It looks bad. The story didn't initially come from Goldenboy and some fans who were watching the fight live called it.


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Post by jimdig Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:21 pm

I don't think ariza is on the level. Even if this is innocent, he should be held to account for rios's failure. Although he'll get away with that, as the Chinese commission isn't really a real commission, damn communists.

Anyone remember how he fell out with khan? Did he accuse khan of stealing records? Or was that the other way around?

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Post by tunes666 Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:55 pm

dangerous_mouse wrote:Tunes thankyou for the link, been looking for this all day Wink
no worries..

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Post by Lance Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:18 pm

Strongback wrote:
Lance wrote:its cotton buds! clear as day. some people need their eyes testing. hes trying to get them in his nose to test for bleeding. after the doctor has just checked his nose out! that's why Maidana is flinching. hes hurt his nose.

Golden boy like to fling dirt around when a fighter loses. try to discredit the decision and save some reputation by casting doubt on the loss.

did the same with Khans loss to Peterson. long before the drug issue which was genuine. they were posting videos of a suspicious figure in the corner, despite knowing full well who he was and what he was doing.

Also posted fake pictures of the Hopkins, Pascal scorecard over the net, to try and prove wrong doing.
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Is Ariza the cut man as well now?

Why would he hold a napkin over a fighters face?  I saw no blood.  

It looks bad.  The story didn't initially come from Goldenboy and some fans who were watching the fight live called it.


hes holding the napkin because he wants maidana to blow his nose! onto a cotton bud, to see if its bleeding inside, and if theres any damage!

the story didn't come from golden boy...just like the arctic monkeys were discovered by the people....funnily enough its easy for a big company to hire some people to claim they noticed something...

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Post by Strongback Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:33 pm

Lance wrote:
Strongback wrote:
Lance wrote:its cotton buds! clear as day. some people need their eyes testing. hes trying to get them in his nose to test for bleeding. after the doctor has just checked his nose out! that's why Maidana is flinching. hes hurt his nose.

Golden boy like to fling dirt around when a fighter loses. try to discredit the decision and save some reputation by casting doubt on the loss.

did the same with Khans loss to Peterson. long before the drug issue which was genuine. they were posting videos of a suspicious figure in the corner, despite knowing full well who he was and what he was doing.

Also posted fake pictures of the Hopkins, Pascal scorecard over the net, to try and prove wrong doing.
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Is Ariza the cut man as well now?

Why would he hold a napkin over a fighters face?  I saw no blood.  

It looks bad.  The story didn't initially come from Goldenboy and some fans who were watching the fight live called it.


hes holding the napkin because he wants maidana to blow his nose! onto a cotton bud, to see if its bleeding inside, and if theres any damage!

the story didn't come from golden boy...just like the arctic monkeys were discovered by the people....funnily enough its easy for a big company to hire some people to claim they noticed something...


As I said is Ariza the cut man now? No, he's a dodgy strength and conditioning coach.

The incident was spotted by people watching the fight live.

Goldenboy have made no comment. Maybe that's because Maidana is a Goldenboy fighter. Are Goldenboy going to start an anti-Maidana hate campaign? Not likely.

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Post by Lance Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:17 pm

they don't need a hate campaign. just enough suspicion cast to give broners fanbase something to cling onto, does a good job for them.

he was the cut man yes! hes been a cut man on and off for many years.

goldenboy don't need to publicly comment yet. got plenty of people stirring it up, just like they do on here.

watch it. can you really not see its a cotton bud wrapped in tissue for him to blow his nose on??? perfectly regular thing for any cut man to do.

I would ditch Ariza. anyone else and this is a nothing story. the guy has an awful track record. but its a shame for maidana people are watching this and coming up with something else.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:38 pm

Lance wrote:
watch it. can you really not see its a cotton bud wrapped in tissue for him to blow his nose on??? perfectly regular thing for any cut man to do.


But he's not the cut man....?

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Post by Lance Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:16 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Lance wrote:
watch it. can you really not see its a cotton bud wrapped in tissue for him to blow his nose on??? perfectly regular thing for any cut man to do.


But he's not the cut man....?

Ariza is a qualified cut man. he has worked as a cut man for other fighters. there was a lot of squabbling a couple of years ago when ariza started working on pacquaios cuts in between rounds and diaz didn't like it.

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Post by Strongback Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:11 am

Lance wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Lance wrote:
watch it. can you really not see its a cotton bud wrapped in tissue for him to blow his nose on??? perfectly regular thing for any cut man to do.


But he's not the cut man....?

Ariza is a qualified cut man. he has worked as a cut man for other fighters. there was a lot of squabbling a couple of years ago when ariza started working on pacquaios cuts in between rounds and diaz didn't like it.


I can see why Diaz didn't want Ariza working on cuts in Pacquiao's corner. Ariza is the clumsiest so called cut man I've ever seen and his methods seem very "unconventional".

My view is Ariza held a napkin over Maidana's nose for a couple of seconds, Maidana did not blow his nose. It looked all wrong and given who was doing it only adds to the suspicion.

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