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HC, Pool 6, Round 6: Munster Rugby v Edinburgh

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Post by George Carlin Wed 15 Jan 2014, 8:57 am

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Sunday 19th January 2014, KO 12:45
Thomond Park, Limerick

Live on Sky Sports & Sky Italia

Referee Wayne Barnes (England)
Touch Judge 1 Tim Wigglesworth (England)
Touch Judge 2 Roy Maybank (England)
Fourth Official Barrie O'Connell (Ireland)
TMO Sean Davey (England)

Citing Commissioner Yves Thieffine (France)

A. Current Standings:

1Munster540112371218
2Edinburgh530298103012
3Gloucester5203779619
4Perpignan51049412237

B. Form:

1. Munster

11/1/14Gloucester7 - 20Munster
14/12/13Perpignan17 - 18Munster
8/12/13Munster36 - 8Perpignan

2. Edinburgh

1/1/14Edinburgh27 - 16Perpignan
15/12/13Gloucester10 - 16Edinburgh
8/12/13Edinburgh12 - 23Gloucester
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C. Teams:

1. Munster
15 Felix Jones
14 Keith Earls
13 Casey Laulala
12 James Downey
11 Johne Murphy
10 Ian Keatley
9  Conor Murray

1 Dave Kilcoyne
2 Damien Varley
3 Stephen Archer
4 Dave Foley
5 Paul O'Connell
6 Peter O'Mahony (capt)
7 Tommy O'Donnell
8 James Coughlan

16 Duncan Casey
17 James Cronin
18 BJ Botha
19 Donncha O'Callaghan
20 Paddy Butler
21 Duncan Williams
22 JJ Hanrahan
23 Simon Zebo

2. Edinburgh
15 Jack Cuthbert
14 Douglas Fife
13 Nick De Luca
12 Ben Atiga
11 Tom Brown
10 Greig Tonks
9 Greig Laidlaw (capt)

1 Alasdair Dickinson
2 Ross Ford
3 Willem Nel
4 Grant Gilchrist
5 Izak Van Der Westhuizen
6 Cornell Du Preez
7 Roddy Grant
8 David Denton

16 Aleki Lutui
17 Lodewicus Blaauw
18 Geoff Cross
19 Ollie Atkins
20 Tomas Leonardi
21 Grayson Hart
22 Carl Bezuidenhout
23 Joaquin Dominguez


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Post by RDW Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:44 pm

I'm not denying it was reckless but those kind of clear outs happen every game - bakkies botha has made a career out of it!

And to call it a head butt really is a gross over reaction

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Post by TJ Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:46 pm

Its not a headbutt.  It is reckless according to the ref.  Harsh decision maybe.  Headbutt would have been red. If it had been deliberate it would have been a headbutt and a red.


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Post by justified sinner Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:47 pm

Crowd decision from Barnes there, just normal rucking for me. Also didn't think the play acting from POC was worthy of him.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:47 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:I'm not denying it was reckless but those kind of clear outs happen every game - bakkies botha has made a career out of it!

And to call it a head butt really is a gross over reaction

I didn't call it a head butt? I know those incidents happen several times a game but when its gone to the TMO for slow motion replay, Barnes was left with no other option.

I don't agree with the law because I like aggressive rucking and clearing out but the rule is there and if caught, yellow card.

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Post by valjester Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:47 pm

Barnes is a fairly awful referee, he has no control at all. Archer is going to get injured really badly in a scrum some day, being at 45degrees is not healthy.

Feel really sorry for Earls, the guy has zero luck with injuries, he really struggles to string a few games together, Varley will need to do some serious apologising.

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:53 pm

What happened to Earls?

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:53 pm

And if Gloucester win or win with a BP are we out if we lose?

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:54 pm

Stupid kick there, needed to stay in possession there.

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Post by RDW Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:54 pm

Nachos Jones wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:I'm not denying it was reckless but those kind of clear outs happen every game - bakkies botha has made a career out of it!

And to call it a head butt really is a gross over reaction


I didn't call it a head butt? I know those incidents happen several times a game but when its gone to the TMO for slow motion replay, Barnes was left with no other option.

I don't agree with the law because I like aggressive rucking and clearing out but the rule is there and if caught, yellow card.

Apologies must have been someone else!

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Post by valjester Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:55 pm

Nematode wrote:What happened to Earls?

Heavy tackle after Varley threw the ball to no-one. He was helped off the field and he hobbled off, looks like a leg injury, knee or ankle.

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Post by TJ Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:56 pm

Another clear block there before the break. Edinburgh soft as Poopie tho

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:57 pm

I feel sorry for him - seems to have being playing really well recently and Ireland are going in the right direction for the 6N. Hopefully it's not too serious and he gets some game time in the 6N.

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:58 pm

Well that's try 3. The game's gone now I think.

I'm gonna head out now - not much to see now.

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Post by madmaccas Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:58 pm

Denton has to be the most overrated player in Scottish rugby. He makes so many errors in attack and defence.

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Post by valjester Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:59 pm

Also, it is disgraceful that Frankie is still employed by Sky. I'm not sure of anyone who enjoys listening to him, and he adds nothing of interest as he cannot even get simple things correct.

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Post by GLove39 Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:00 pm

ruthless by Munster here  Shocked 

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Post by George Carlin Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:02 pm

Woah - the Cherries have picked up their fourth try at Perpignan.
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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:03 pm

Excellent defensive scrum there by Embra clap

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Post by TJ Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:04 pm

Why does Laidlaw persist in the box kick giving them the ball?

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:05 pm

JJ on at 12 Very Happy

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:06 pm

Sorry JJ on at 10 Very Happy

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Post by RDW Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:07 pm

Will be a super human effort to deny Munster the 4th try from here - Munster have been very powerful

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:09 pm

Wahoooo Home QF Very Happy

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Post by RDW Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:12 pm

Our lineout on half way, Ford baws up the throw, try Munster 2 mins later.

Again poor defense from Edinburgh - frustrating after last week that all 4 tries today we're vert softly conceded

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Post by Golden Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:12 pm

If Clermont win, have Munster drawn Leinster?

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Post by The Saint Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:14 pm

Golden wrote:If Clermont win, have Munster drawn Leinster?

This. Would someone be so kind as to put up a thread later which lists all of the Heino and Amlin KO matches? Very Happy

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Post by wolfball Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:17 pm

The Saint wrote:
Golden wrote:If Clermont win, have Munster drawn Leinster?

This. Would someone be so kind as to put up a thread later which lists all of the Heino and Amlin KO matches? Very Happy

By my calculations if Clermont wins its Leinster away to Clermont and Munster home to Tolouse. Could be wrong though.

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Post by Golden Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:18 pm

Ah right. Was getting excited there

Although if Clermont dont get the bp then theyre level. so if munster keep scoring tries......

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Post by GLove39 Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:22 pm

Jeeze our defence today has almost been as bad as Sky's co-commentator

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:24 pm

Well this is embarrassing isn't it...

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Post by Golden Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:24 pm

Johnny Murphy has had an excellent game

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Post by TJ Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:24 pm

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Post by The Saint Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:25 pm

I wouldn't be worried about that if I was a Leinster fan. They're in such good form (a lot like two of their three rival provinces) and Clermont are still likely to bottle it.

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:29 pm

Blauw, Lutui, Nel, VDV, Cox, Basilia, Leonardi, Du Preez, Hart, Bezuindehot, Beard, Strauss, Atiga, Cuthbert, Tonks - This just shows the level of foreign intervention in Edinburgh & Scottish Rugby

(Trying to take your mind of the result so you can rage at something else)

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Post by Nachos Jones Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:30 pm

And now a yellow card again, insult to injury.

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Post by GLove39 Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:30 pm

Wow, Cross sent to the sin bin, he's really not getting much game time this season is he!

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:32 pm

And to think we've got to play Ireland away which has just a sample of Munster players  Run vomit 

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:34 pm

Zebo offers so much more than Earls. He is everywhere amd actually passes the ball.

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:35 pm

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PLEASE EDINBURGH Sad 

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Post by GLove39 Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:39 pm

well thank Frak that's over!

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:40 pm

FT: 38-6  Doh 

Didn't see that one coming. Not like we have a habit of losing the must-wins...

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:44 pm

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 2:50 pm

Well, to be fair we were beaten by a better team that is country miles further ahead than we are. We need to aspire to be like them, with their sizeable support and ability to turn up when big games come.

Solomons has been working Edinburgh hard and this was probably one stage too far at this moment of time. Hopefully we can look back at the wins that we have had and take the confidence through to our remaining Rabo matches and hope for a top 6 finish.

Good luck to Munster and the remaining Irish teams, hopefully they can show the French money doesn't buy you trophies.

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Post by KiaRose Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:16 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Zebo offers so much more than Earls. He is everywhere amd actually passes the ball.

And Zebo isn't in the Ireland squad because ?????????????????

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Post by Nematode Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:18 pm

Can I selfishly promote my new thread on the intl page?

It has a poll for a Scotland XV vs Ireland where you can select your ENTIRE team to play Ireland. The idea is a poll along with a written team will make it easier to identify the trends in fan selection.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:19 pm

He's been injured...I'm sure that has something to do with it? I've no doubt Schmidt will add him now.

Earls is good at this level but can't make the step up I'm afraid. The kind of space he finds himself in with Munster won't be there at international level. Zebo was everwhere today and took the ball to the line really well.

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Post by BlueMuff Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:30 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:He's been injured...I'm sure that has something to do with it?  I've no doubt Schmidt will add him now.

Earls is good at this level but can't make the step up I'm afraid. The kind of space he finds himself in with Munster won't be there at international level. Zebo was everwhere today and took the ball to the line really well.

Well ifs the case why is McFadden in? He's injured and hasn't played any games!!!

And James coughlan is another noticeable absentee.

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Post by Golden Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:32 pm

Well i guess Mcfadden only injured his hand so should be fit just lacking game time.  But still dont quite get it. Doesnt really matter though Zebo will be called up and likely be starting. 

I think Copeland got Coughlans place. Hes had a better season so far

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Post by profitius Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:33 pm

I thought TOD had a great game today. My MOTM.

Good win overall. Only downside were the scrums that were a bit too messy and Earls getting injured.
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Post by BlueMuff Sun 19 Jan 2014, 3:43 pm

Would love to see Cronin start ahead of killer he is a beast in the scrum

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