Manny Pacquiao 2008-2013: The Fallout

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Interesting snippet here on Pacquiao: http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15933.html
 
Freddie Roach has cast aspersions over Alex Ariza's involvement in Manny Pacquiao's career by claiming Ariza is "shady" and that he supplied Pacquiao with mysterious supplements throughout their time together (Roach has claimed previously that if strength and conditioning coaches (like Ariza) were eliminated from the sport then boxing's PED epidemic would alleviate significantly).
 
One wonders, as the barbs fly back and forward, whether they'll further implicate themselves in suspicious goings on (all of which impacts upon Pacquiao's career)?
 
Ariza's involvement with both Pacquiao (and indeed Amir Khan), certainly co-incided with both men's best win streaks.
 
Pacquiao managed to leap entire divisions to face Oscar De la Hoya in '08, who he retired. De la Hoya has since suffered from depression and drug problems.
 
He then proceeded to decimate the usually durable Ricky Hatton. Hatton, of course, retired and encountered similar issues to Oscar (unable to come to terms with his manner of defeat or indeed his enforced retirement).
 
Miguel Cotto was next. Pacquiao manhandled him in a manner no-one else has, including Antonio Margarito. Cotto has successfully rebuilt his career.
 
Pacquiao then pounded huge, sturdy welterweights in the guise of Josh Clottey and Antonio Margarito. Clottey's career never recovered while Margarito suffered horrendous eye damage that helped curtail his career.
 
The Filipino went on to savage Shane Mosley, knocking the iron-chinned former champion down in the process and hurting him at times with what appeared glancing blows.
 
It was at this point, with Pacquiao complaining of leg cramps during fights, that he began neglecting Ariza's strength and conditioning programme in favour of more boxing-focussed training instead: http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/15688-ariza-not-too-pleased-mannys-not-doing-strength-training
 
Pacquiao has looked less destructive since; he appeared lucky to get the nod in the Marquez rubber match, unlucky not to get the nod in the Bradley fight, was pancaked in the 4th Marquez fight, and despite teeing off on Rios for twelve rounds, couldn't put the Oxnard man away.
 
Evidence suggests that Ariza's strength and conditioning programme (that Roach has now brought into question) made Pacquiao into a monster, one that left the careers of De la Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito in tatters.
 
Something tells me we haven't heard the last of this saga.

So in this very thread you have made your position on Manny perfectly clear with regards to his relationship with Ariza, yet refuse to question Floyd for similar behaviour.

It's clear what your agenda is.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:So in this very thread you have made your position on Manny perfectly clear with regards to his relationship with Ariza, yet refuse to question Floyd for similar behaviour.

It's clear what your agenda is.

The article is about Manny.......I've just said nothing would surprise me..

can you read........Or are you just into causing trouble..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:People are more aware of the dangers involved with juicing now as well.........HGH swells the inner organs.......Nasser el sonbatty runner up to Yates in the Olympia has just passed away..at 47......

Greg Kovacs died recently too, as did Mike Jenkins (who came forth in last years Worlds Strongest Man).
To be fair though, you can't your average juicer to the pro's who are literally swimming in hormones.

As for boxing, I think drug usage has been rife since the 70's. You are looking at guys whose whole career and livelihood is dependent on performance. Therefore, they will be willing to do whatever it takes to enhance it. There is no honour when it comes to this subject, ALL athletes will use drugs if they think they can get away with it. And in boxing, most know they can.

J.Benson II wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:People are more aware of the dangers involved with juicing now as well.........HGH swells the inner organs.......Nasser el sonbatty runner up to Yates in the Olympia has just passed away..at 47......

Greg Kovacs died recently too, as did Mike Jenkins (who came forth in last years Worlds Strongest Man).
To be fair though, you can't your average juicer to the pro's who are literally swimming in hormones.

As for boxing, I think drug usage has been rife since the 70's. You are looking at guys whose whole career and livelihood is dependent on performance. Therefore, they will be willing to do whatever it takes to enhance it. There is no honour when it comes to this subject, ALL athletes will use drugs if they think they can get away with it. And in boxing, most know they can.

Couldn't agree more Mate....Great post.....Don't dispute there isn't a PED problem......But do dispute those that say it's worse now than it was then..

It's extremely naive to assume the majority of athletes don't use PEDS merely because they are not caught.

I've read a lot on the subject and the testing standards are poor and it's a measure of tapering off the drugs in time for it to be out of your body by the time of testing.

I would bet most of your biggest stars of the 60's-80's juiced but they had less worry.

It's not only boxers, footballers will be on it aswell could you imagine the impact if 50% of the premier league players failed drugs test though same as boxing would be catastrophic for the sports