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Season 6 Homepage III
First topic message reminder :
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Leicester Tigers | 16 | 13 | 0 | 3 | 402 | 356 | 46 | 41 | 28 | 1 | 3 | 56 | |
2 | London Wasps # | 16 | 13 | 0 | 3 | 398 | 354 | 44 | 40 | 29 | 1 | 3 | 53 | |
3 | Northampton Saints # | 16 | 9 | 1 | 6 | 393 | 390 | 3 | 36 | 35 | 1 | 6 | 44 | |
4 | Newcastle Falcons | 16 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 388 | 383 | 5 | 34 | 34 | 0 | 5 | 43 | |
5 | Gloucester | 16 | 8 | 1 | 7 | 393 | 370 | 23 | 36 | 33 | 1 | 7 | 41 | |
6 | Sale Sharks # | 16 | 7 | 3 | 6 | 397 | 385 | 12 | 39 | 33 | 1 | 6 | 39 | |
7 | Harlequins # | 16 | 7 | 2 | 7 | 401 | 393 | 8 | 40 | 36 | 2 | 8 | 39 | |
8 | Saracens | 16 | 5 | 1 | 10 | 335 | 362 | -27 | 25 | 31 | 1 | 9 | 32 | |
9 | London Irish # | 16 | 5 | 1 | 10 | 380 | 378 | 2 | 35 | 35 | 1 | 10 | 31 | |
10 | Exeter Chiefs | 16 | 4 | 2 | 10 | 360 | 376 | -16 | 27 | 34 | 0 | 10 | 30 | |
11 | Worcester Warriors # | 16 | 4 | 3 | 9 | 361 | 402 | -41 | 28 | 36 | 0 | 8 | 28 | |
12 | Bath Rugby # | 16 | 4 | 1 | 11 | 347 | 404 | -57 | 31 | 42 | 0 | 9 | 23 |
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Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Structured Window
No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.
Open Window
Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
Last edited by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 18 Mar 2014, 10:42; edited 5 times in total
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Agreed driver my post said lawes and launch top and then highlighted how
Many good
Locks in rugby their are
Many good
Locks in rugby their are
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I'v never been sold on Pyle , decent enough operator at club level but never thought he's make the step up to international , has he been capped yet?
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Pyle is nothing special, hard to rate a player highly when he hasn't played ain't rugby
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I think you hit the nail on the head Pooly , It's hard to say someone is a top player without seeing them at the highest level consistently. One or two exceptions like Johann Muller who is one of the best lineout locks of last 10 years but behind Matfield.
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Some people are good players but not international class still makes them good players.
Flood, tait, hazel, Garvey, Matt smith, Banahan, strettle and many others are top players but don't have that extra something
Flood, tait, hazel, Garvey, Matt smith, Banahan, strettle and many others are top players but don't have that extra something
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Mean top performers. Have not much time for Banahan smith etc but can't doubt their record
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Banahan??? Did you just write that '???
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Good player for Bath , horrible for England.
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A club player and not my cup of tea but his record is great. Similar too varndell
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Jimmy Goppereth at Falcons was a good club player would never have cut it at international.
Andy Goode best NH club player ever.
Andy Goode best NH club player ever.
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There's hundreds of players I'd put before Banahan when talking about top club performers, I think he's dreadful.
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Peter Buxton. in premiership player of year poll 4 or 5 years running but never international. Dropped out of tour of hell to SH injured and missed his cap.
Worst gambler in the world also. We are off to Cheltenham Tuesday and I cannot remember him ever having a winner
Worst gambler in the world also. We are off to Cheltenham Tuesday and I cannot remember him ever having a winner
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anonmattyt wrote:May was not great today nick but also was not used properly.
We don't play with fluidity and are not dangerous ball in hand like SH teams.
May brown and Nowell offer us that threat although they have to try to do it themselves as we don't create much.
Our first phase play is very disappointing and our response to turnover ball needs to be sped up. It's the only time defences are out of position so needs to be exploited.
We are a fine side and defensively great. However we are miles away from having a sharp attack and challenging NZ.
Launch and Lawes however are turning in to a great lock pair. Lock has amazing players in the world game right
Now
Etzbeth, du toit, whitelock ,gray ,bakkies, Horwill , poc and many more.
I disagree I think we, and certainly not just the new wingers, have been looking increasingly fluid and dangerous and spontaneous and our forwards have been increasingly better at link play. We aren't there yet but the improvements are definitely there, especially as our previous big wins have been based off forward domination with relatively blunt attack, NZ included
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Lot's of good players in lots of sports.
Le Tissier never got more than a handful of England caps despite being amazing for Southampton.
Le Tissier never got more than a handful of England caps despite being amazing for Southampton.
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Agree CJ, the back 3 has seen a lot of ball.
May had the ball in space on numerous occasions but he constantly crabs. Yarde looked much more dangerous with much less ball in the AI.
It's always good to have options but Yarde is the better player imo
May had the ball in space on numerous occasions but he constantly crabs. Yarde looked much more dangerous with much less ball in the AI.
It's always good to have options but Yarde is the better player imo
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ChequeredJersey wrote:anonmattyt wrote:May was not great today nick but also was not used properly.
We don't play with fluidity and are not dangerous ball in hand like SH teams.
May brown and Nowell offer us that threat although they have to try to do it themselves as we don't create much.
Our first phase play is very disappointing and our response to turnover ball needs to be sped up. It's the only time defences are out of position so needs to be exploited.
We are a fine side and defensively great. However we are miles away from having a sharp attack and challenging NZ.
Launch and Lawes however are turning in to a great lock pair. Lock has amazing players in the world game right
Now
Etzbeth, du toit, whitelock ,gray ,bakkies, Horwill , poc and many more.
I disagree I think we, and certainly not just the new wingers, have been looking increasingly fluid and dangerous and spontaneous and our forwards have been increasingly better at link play. We aren't there yet but the improvements are definitely there, especially as our previous big wins have been based off forward domination with relatively blunt attack, NZ included
Agree we are improving but still think we are not creative or street wise. We ran ball today that should not be ran and kicked ball that should
Have Been won.
Playing from
Deep
After
That first
Try was super naive.
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My take on our wingers in this comp is that they are both very inexperienced at this level and it showed. May does crab across the field, albeit he is looking for a gap to go through. The problem is that at international level there are less gaps than at club level, and more often than not he is going to get smashed doing it, and end up behind the gain line.
Nowell not backing himself having made a good break was criminal. Yarde, Wade or Ashton would simply have just put their foot down and made the diagonal run for the far corner. It didn't cost us this time, but at this level, you have to take those sort of chances.
To face Italy I would make 2 changes to the matchday 23. I would have Yarde in for one of the wingers, not sure which one a this point, and I would have Manu replacing Goode on the bench.
Whoever plays we will beat Italy, but we need to really run ups a score to catch Ireland and I think we have a better chance of doing that with Yarde and Tuilagi in the matchday squad.
Nowell not backing himself having made a good break was criminal. Yarde, Wade or Ashton would simply have just put their foot down and made the diagonal run for the far corner. It didn't cost us this time, but at this level, you have to take those sort of chances.
To face Italy I would make 2 changes to the matchday 23. I would have Yarde in for one of the wingers, not sure which one a this point, and I would have Manu replacing Goode on the bench.
Whoever plays we will beat Italy, but we need to really run ups a score to catch Ireland and I think we have a better chance of doing that with Yarde and Tuilagi in the matchday squad.
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anonmattyt wrote:Worst gambler in the world also. We are off to Cheltenham Tuesday and I cannot remember him ever having a winner
Any tips for the week?! Rock on Ruby is my fancy for Tuesday. Other horses i'm in for are Our Conor for the champion hurdle and Annie Power for the world hurdle. Would be on Quevega but haven't the funds to make it worthwhile while shes odds on
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Just got my first choice deanery for jobs next year get to stay in/near London
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SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:anonmattyt wrote:Worst gambler in the world also. We are off to Cheltenham Tuesday and I cannot remember him ever having a winner
Any tips for the week?! Rock on Ruby is my fancy for Tuesday. Other horses i'm in for are Our Conor for the champion hurdle and Annie Power for the world hurdle. Would be on Quevega but haven't the funds to make it worthwhile while shes odds on
Agree on all of those SJE. Have quite a bit on champagne fever in the first race tomorrow.
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South Thames, need to rank the specific hospitals now though, thanks
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Exciting times fella, you looking forward to earning?
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Having any kind of positive money would be nice after 6 years of accumulating student debt!
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Haha....6 years, nasty.
I'm just starting a degree, luckily I get a bit of cash back.
I'm just starting a degree, luckily I get a bit of cash back.
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Budgets up to date. Congratulations to Matt & Steve on making the AW final.
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Good start to Cheltenham. Had Vautour to win and Jossess Hill e/w.
Would of loved some of Warhorse though!
Would of loved some of Warhorse though!
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Apologies for not predicting this weekend, have had a mad time in the past week.
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SJE my vautor tip was a good one. Paid my day. Had champion hurdle winner also so paid my day and then some. Team in tomorrow as not fit for doing it now
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Yeah got in on Vautour after talking to you. Had Joses Hill E/W in the same race. My other winner for the day was Quevega. Shame about Our Conor had him backed as well
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Jeziki got me out of a hole as I killed large on champagne fever. Was up for day with lunch drinks taxis etc. not by much though but a day out with 40 quid up when tickets were 70 quid is a result.
Will lose it all tomorrow
Will lose it all tomorrow
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wont get side in till late tomorrow matt.
Apologies! Will be pretty strong but not full strength
Apologies! Will be pretty strong but not full strength
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AWJ can be available for a trade that improves me at prop or backrow
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Who you on today Matt? Got Annie Power weeks back at 11-4 and have a fair amount put behind her so fingers crossed!
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Annie power and felix younger.
Is there any games on here this week? Can't find a match thread
Is there any games on here this week? Can't find a match thread
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Annie power and felix younger.
Is there any games on here this week? Can't find a match thread
Is there any games on here this week? Can't find a match thread
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https://www.606v2.com/t52482-anglo-welsh-final
Pooly put it up so you might not see it if you have him on the ignore list. PM me a teamsheet and I'll put it up for you if thats the case
Pooly put it up so you might not see it if you have him on the ignore list. PM me a teamsheet and I'll put it up for you if thats the case
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1F is back
Ferris on the bench for Ulster this week
Ferris on the bench for Ulster this week
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Only going by previous comments Pooly
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SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:1F is back
Ferris on the bench for Ulster this week
Prob last about 3 games and crock again!
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PSDT out with ACL. Could be a year.
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Guys ,
Something i'v picked up on of late in predictions. People are getting marked down in they're tactics for not writing down something which would be part of a normal players routine. I know SJE loves a good tactical battle and he picks up when people don't mention that a 9 doesn't sweep in tactics where for me this is a essential role a 9 does anyway.
I don't pick up on it when predicting but just curious as to what people see as a given with out it being wrote into the tactics.
Something i'v picked up on of late in predictions. People are getting marked down in they're tactics for not writing down something which would be part of a normal players routine. I know SJE loves a good tactical battle and he picks up when people don't mention that a 9 doesn't sweep in tactics where for me this is a essential role a 9 does anyway.
I don't pick up on it when predicting but just curious as to what people see as a given with out it being wrote into the tactics.
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Well, I usually comment on it as I actually like my Hooker to do that as I use my 9 differently (thanks to the fixture that has been Parra in past sides)- but really obvious things I take for granted
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PSDT out for year:
http://mobi.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/140314/PieterSteph_out_for_the_year
http://mobi.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/140314/PieterSteph_out_for_the_year
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Driver wrote:Guys ,
Something i'v picked up on of late in predictions. People are getting marked down in they're tactics for not writing down something which would be part of a normal players routine. I know SJE loves a good tactical battle and he picks up when people don't mention that a 9 doesn't sweep in tactics where for me this is a essential role a 9 does anyway.
I don't pick up on it when predicting but just curious as to what people see as a given with out it being wrote into the tactics.
Not always the scrum halfs job to sweep Driver. Some sides won't have a sweeper. Sometimes its the flyhalf/hooker etc. Another pet peeve of mine in tactics is people just saying XYZ is world class, XYZ will dictate the game, XYZ will dominate breakdown etc instead of an actual game plan for attacking/breakdown etc. Will always favour the side with the better laid out tactics.
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Not meaning to cause offence , i'm just grasping for future tactics.
I guess the sweeping is a cultural thing , I'v always had the 9 pegged.
I guess the sweeping is a cultural thing , I'v always had the 9 pegged.
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I'm liking Matt's "super high tempo" this week.
Agree about the world class thing, as soon as I see something like that I just stop reading.
Agree about the world class thing, as soon as I see something like that I just stop reading.
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