CLEVELY BELLEW OFF

Bellew fails to make weight.

Clev now fights Alesky Kuziemski.

I'm just glad they didn't get some East European no mark that no ones ever heard of in and try to charge us 15 knicker for it. Oh hang on...

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Bellew fails to make weight.

Clev now fights Alesky Kuziemski.

I'm just glad they didn't get some East European no mark that no ones ever heard of in and try to charge us 15 knicker for it. Oh hang on...

Oh come on, EVERYONE'S heard of Alesk...Alexsy...him.

it's not like the bbc to come up with news on boxing this quick...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/13460425.stm


but here it is...

and i for one am certainly not paying for this fight now...!

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How could bellew take the fight knowing he was over 182lbs??? Why wasn't his weight checked before he was officially announced as an opponent? Yet another embarrassment for the sport. DeGale v Groves had better be bloody good.

gutted, looking like amateur hour all round this one

would of been bombs away but now we have to watch Cleverly fight a bum and not Bellew

Pretty gutting seeing Bellew not making weight. Watching the press conference just now and I love it when fighters seem to genuinely dislike each other.

Where does the animosity between them come from?

jesus jones surely it got to be taken of box office?

licence_007 wrote:Pretty gutting seeing Bellew not making weight. Watching the press conference just now and I love it when fighters seem to genuinely dislike each other.

Where does the animosity between them come from?

Think it's just Bellew getting carried away isn't it?

Think it's just Bellew getting carried away isn't it?
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I like Cleverly but he was out of order calling Bellew a bum, i think Bellew would genuinely love to fight him though

marcellus wallace wrote:jesus jones surely it got to be taken of box office?

I have my fingers crossed since I'm not in on Saturday night, but with it being so late in the day? Doubt it. £15 for a probable one-sided 'world' title fight and a couple of up and comers.


I was just wondering about Bellew since I read on here about how it was a grudge match.

licence_007 wrote:Pretty gutting seeing Bellew not making weight. Watching the press conference just now and I love it when fighters seem to genuinely dislike each other.

Where does the animosity between them come from?

From Bellews inherant scouse inferiority complex.

I was just wondering about Bellew since I read on here about how it was a grudge match.
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Bellew lost in and said lets go now you fu***** rat when Cleverly said i'll take you outside now, dont blame him either, Bellew's got balls he was there to fight he may of thought he was under bathroom scales and the BBBofC scales are different.

So there was nothing before the press conference? I wasn't sure if they had an amateur history with each other or something. Thanks for clearing it up.

Kuziemski is ranked 11 by the WBO, has a 23-2 record with just 5 wins coming via KO, and he is aged 34. Think we can safely say he fits the bum/journeyman mould.

Steven_89 wrote:Think it's just Bellew getting carried away isn't it?
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I like Cleverly but he was out of order calling Bellew a bum, i think Bellew would genuinely love to fight him though

I dunno, a certain amount of 'banter' is expected, but in losing his rag like that Bellew made himself look classless.

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Kuziemski is ranked 11 by the WBO, has a 23-2 record with just 5 wins coming via KO, and he is aged 34. Think we can safely say he fits the bum/journeyman mould.

On the face of it 23-2 doesn't sound so bad, but it's the age and the KO% that gives it away.

dont know about that Balti, he stood up for himself after being offered outside, fair enough i think.

licence_007 wrote:So there was nothing before the press conference? I wasn't sure if they had an amateur history with each other or something. Thanks for clearing it up.

Bellew has been calling out Cleverly for ages.

23-2 and still ranked 11th probably says something as well about the standard of his opposition?

I dunno, a certain amount of 'banter' is expected, but in losing his rag like that Bellew made himself look classless.
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I agree with him, if someone said to me i'll take you outside i'd say do it here, especially if i was a pro unknown, he's a winner anyway everyone knows who he is now, after agreeing to step in wouldn't surprise me if he knew he was over the weight and just agreed to fight for publicity. Cleverly's fighting a bum now though so were the real losers

BALTIMORA wrote:

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Kuziemski is ranked 11 by the WBO, has a 23-2 record with just 5 wins coming via KO, and he is aged 34. Think we can safely say he fits the bum/journeyman mould.

On the face of it 23-2 doesn't sound so bad, but it's the age and the KO% that gives it away.

Yep. And who has he been fighting? Well I can tell you his last two opponents had won just one fight between them in their previous ten fights.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=300899&cat=boxer

Bellew is certainly in the map now. It would be embarassing if he lost his next fight though.

Recognise the name he was knocked out by?

Scottrf wrote:Recognise the name he was knocked out by?

Dmitry Sukhotsky?

He's been KOd by Brahemer and also by Sukhotsky who Braehmer also beat.

Top quality opponent.

So, what round's he showing us the soles of his feet?

I'm going with somewhere between rounds 4 and 6.

Balti you're not suggesting he is chinny are you?

Clev will be told to carry his sorry backside for a few rounds to make it more palatable to the poor sods that shell out 15 quid for a card where the highlight is a grudge match between two rookies.

I haven't bought it yet and wont bother now either. Think some of the pubs have it on so will take advantage and go out for the degale groves fight and forget the rest.

prettyboykev wrote:Balti you're not suggesting he is chinny are you?

I don't know a thing about him other than I can't spell his name, but it doesn't bode well for him does it, when he's been KOd by a guy who's equally unknown, and both times he's lost have been stoppages. Add in that Warren has probably had a hand in his selection, and we all know who HE'S going to be backing... Call me cynical but the words 'hand-picked Euro journeyman' spring to mind.

But, I like be totally wrong.

BALTIMORA wrote:

prettyboykev wrote:Balti you're not suggesting he is chinny are you?

I don't know a thing about him other than I can't spell his name, but it doesn't bode well for him does it, when he's been KOd by a guy who's equally unknown, and both times he's lost have been stoppages. Add in that Warren has probably had a hand in his selection, and we all know who HE'S going to be backing... Call me cynical but the words 'hand-picked Euro journeyman' spring to mind.

But, I like be totally wrong.

Cynical, I think you are talking rubbish. Kuziemski is a beast who will hand Cleverley his backside. You are totally wrong.

Actually I am lying. Like you Balti, I can't claim to be an expert on this guy but it does not bode well. Such a shame as Braehmer or even Bellew would have held more interest but this one is hard to get excited by. I hope Groves v Degale is a British classic, up there with the likes of Kaylor v Christie, then we might not be left with such a bad taste in the mouth!

It just smacks unfortunately of the stereotypical eastern European journeyman. I'll have a look see of I can find the guy on YouTube, see if I'm right.

cleverly is very unlucky- he didnt get the chance to win the belt as he would have liked and now his first defence is meaningless too. he's wasted a lot of his career around this fight.

I dont think its fair to call Alesky a bum

He's the second best light heavy in Poland!

Is it just me that thinks this Bellew thing was a bit of a set up to promote Cleverley's next fight?

Warren brings him in knowing the weight is an issue but he'll be considered a half decent replacement fighter, he makes the press conference look interesting then the weight is a problem so they bring in a journeyman.

Then after this fight it will be announced that Cleverley will fight Bellew next as they really dislike each other and have 'history'.

huw wrote:Is it just me that thinks this Bellew thing was a bit of a set up to promote Cleverley's next fight?

Warren brings him in knowing the weight is an issue but he'll be considered a half decent replacement fighter, he makes the press conference look interesting then the weight is a problem so they bring in a journeyman.

Then after this fight it will be announced that Cleverley will fight Bellew next as they really dislike each other and have 'history'.

I totally agree - Bellew was never going to make the weight. They let get as far as the press conference purely to build up hype in a potential future all british grudge match. To be fair I think it worked, after watching it I was looking forward to the fight more than when Cleverly was going to fight Braehmer! There is the risk though that the promoters are going to take these little peices of theatre too far, and ultimately increase negative press in a sport that is already in the news for all the wrong reasons!