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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 0:12

Tonight's crushing welsh victory means both Ireland and Wales have surpassed France on the IRB ladder.

NZ
SA
Australia
England 85.18
Ireland 81.05
Wales 80.59
France 80.56
Samoa
Argentina
Scotland

Congratulations Wales and Ireland!

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Post by RDSguru Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 0:39

So yet again the rankings mean diddly squat! Well, below the top 3 at least!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 8:41

Rankings are a bit misleading perhaps, look at the ratings that go with them.
The system had Wales as marginal favorites for the France game with the home weighting. Its correctly predicted the results of every game so far.

Fact is though the 6 nations big 4 can all beat each other "on their day"


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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 9:17

The rankings reward consistency between IRB nations.

Georgia for instance have shown a distinct upward trend in their ranking over the past ten years and should be rewarded by being in div 2 of the NH 4Ns instead of being left to fester or die on the vine.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 9:51

Wales have benefited by France beating England and England beating Australia.

The points have trickled down the chain.

If the matches had been played in a different order in the 6N - I.e. Wales played France before England then the standings would be different. This is why They're slightly broken.

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Post by Cyril Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 10:02

GloriousEmpire wrote:Wales have benefited by France beating England and England beating Australia.

The points have trickled down the chain.

If the matches had been played in a different order in the 6N - I.e. Wales played France before England then the standings would be different. This is why They're slightly broken.
I remember England losing to France in the World Cup quarters in 2011 shortly after they (France) had been beaten by Tonga in the group stage. That was a nastier points drop than it might have been!

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Post by The Saint Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 11:04

I'm looking forward to hearing how useless and unimportant the rankings are once England slip down from fourth place.

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Post by Cyril Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 11:09

The Saint wrote:I'm looking forward to hearing how useless and unimportant the rankings are once England slip down from fourth place.
Give it a rest, eh? You seem to exist in a constant state of 'offended'.

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Post by The Saint Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 11:21

The truth really gets to some people eh... England by 5 today Cyril, what you reckon eh?

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Post by SecretFly Sun 23 Feb 2014 - 11:07

The Saint wrote:The truth really gets to some people eh... England by 5 today Cyril, what you reckon eh?

Miles out there Wink

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Post by Cyril Sun 23 Feb 2014 - 11:22

Laugh

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Post by The Saint Sun 23 Feb 2014 - 12:19

Damn those 2 points. Anyway, Saint predicted a Wales win and an England win, so pretty spot on so far. Me and GE are king of the predictions.

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Post by nganboy Mon 24 Feb 2014 - 8:43

The Saint wrote:Damn those 2 points. Anyway, Saint predicted a Wales win and an England win, so pretty spot on so far. Me and GE are king of the predictions.

Are you talking about yourself in the third person or is the a "Saint" who is not "The Saint"?
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Post by GloriousEmpire Mon 24 Feb 2014 - 9:13

nganboy wrote:
The Saint wrote:Damn those 2 points. Anyway, Saint predicted a Wales win and an England win, so pretty spot on so far. Me and GE are king of the predictions.

Are you talking about yourself in the third person or is the a "Saint" who is not "The Saint"?

Undeniable saint. You know how to call them. Smile

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