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Post by George Carlin Mon 17 Mar - 6:34

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Saturday 22 March 2014
KO 18:30
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Referee: Alain Rolland (IRFU, 63rd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Lloyd Linton , David Changleng (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: John Montgomery (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)

Live on S4C and BBC Heedrumhodrum

A. Teams:

I. Glasgow
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Peter Murchie, Tommy Seymour, Richie Vernon, Alex Dunbar, Niko Matawalu, Duncan Weir, Chris Cusiter (capt), Gordon Reid, Dougie Hall, Jon Welsh, Tim Swinson, Jonny Gray, Rob Harley, Chris Fusaro, Josh Strauss.

Replacements: Fraser Brown, Jerry Yanuyanutawa, Moray Low, Al Kellock, Leone Nakarawa, Ruaridh Jackson, Mark Bennett, Sean Maitland.

II. Scarlets
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Liam Williams; Kristian Phillips, Jonathan Davies (capt), Olly Barkley, Jordan Williams; 10 Aled Thomas, Gareth Davies; Phil John, Ken Owens, Samson Lee, George Earle, Johan Snyman, Josh Turnbull, Sione Timani, John Barclay.

Replacements: Emyr Phillips, Rob Evans, Rhodri Jones, Jake Ball, Richard Kelly, Rhodri Williams, Adam Warren, Gareth Maule.

B. Form - head to head

23 Played 23
11 Wins 12
12 Losses 11
0 Draws 0
60 Tries 61
43 Conversions 40
51 Penalties 60
2 Drop Goals 1
545 Points 548
25 Avg. Age 25

C. Form - last season:

Fri 7 September 2012, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 13 - 18 Scarlets
Scotstoun

Fri 12 April 2013, 19:05
Scarlets 29 - 6 Glasgow Warriors
Parc y Scarlets


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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 22 Mar - 19:21

flippin hell rolland do your job then you wont see the scrum half losing it,
every frigging ruck some one lying all over the ball FFS.
Scarlets getting shafted by rolland here penalties in attack and defence what they supposed to do?

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 19:21

One eyed ref there were clear penalties playing the ball on the ground but ref ignores then when he finally cound not ignore he reverses it due to frustration, when is he retiring. Scarlets are poor in this game.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:22

It won't be a surprise to hear that I disagree with both of you

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Post by TJ Sat 22 Mar - 19:26

Ref gave the penalty to Scarlets then reversed it for the stamp after the whistle from the 9 - who is lucky to stay on the pitch for that. Fortunately for Scarlets Rolland is not card happy.


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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:27

Yellow should have been shown by now. Scarlets constantly infringing

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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 22 Mar - 19:29

TJ wrote:Ref gave the penalty to Scarlets then reversed it for the stamp after the whistle from the 9 - who is lucky to stay on the pitch for that.  Fortunately for Scarlets Rolland is not card happy.

He reluctantly give the penalty, then Davies lost it because Rolland just stood there not even instructing the player to move like every previous ruck.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:32

Glasgow need to pick up their game. Scarlets have been poor in the first half. I expect an improvement from them in the second

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:39

Really a spear tackle
Really. Think for a second. Really. Reeealllyyy

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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 22 Mar - 19:40

hips above head and dropped

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 19:41

Must be yellow it has gone on though the game

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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat 22 Mar - 19:43

another tip tackle.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:44

Really

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:47

Thank you.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 19:48

At this rate it will be 12 a side, very stop start game.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 22 Mar - 19:49

As much as I enjoy friendly debate I think I will put down my tablet and concentrate on the game

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar - 19:51

George Carlin wrote:Who the hell is commentating and keeps referring to the Scarlets as "Llanelli"?

Even I know that's wrong.

English I take it? The lead commentator sounds like Gareth Charles (the usual scrum v commentator). The other one is Dragons forwards' coach Kingsley Jones.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 22 Mar - 19:52

Have sympathies with the Scarlets for some of these penalties. We popped up first there.

I also didn't get the knock on in the first half when the ball came off Murchie rather than (I think it was) Williams.
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Post by George Carlin Sat 22 Mar - 19:56

Risca Rev wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Who the hell is commentating and keeps referring to the Scarlets as "Llanelli"?

Even I know that's wrong.

English I take it? The lead commentator sounds like Gareth Charles (the usual scrum v commentator). The other one is Dragons forwards' coach Kingsley Jones.
It's Ed Kalman, Glasgow's prop. He's from Plymouth, which is close enough to Wales for him to know better.
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 19:57

Good play by Glas it has got a little hectic the game needs it.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 19:59

Turnbull has been really poor, why are the Blues taking him on next year?

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Post by George Carlin Sat 22 Mar - 20:00

Damn, Nakarawa is an unbelievable athlete.

Cannot believe we went 16 phases and then gave the pill away.

All 3 Fijians on now for maximum mentalness.
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 20:01

No wonder Scottish is in a mess with all the SH players and only two teams.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 22 Mar - 20:03

Ye I mean Edinburagh were so good when they didn't have as many NSQ players last year. Its clearly what is wrong with Scottish rugby.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 20:04

Glasgow just have to stand up in the scrum and they get a penalty.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 22 Mar - 20:06

glamorganalun wrote:Glasgow just have to stand up in the scrum and they get a penalty.
Yep, even Scottish commentators saying that one was bizarre.
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 20:10

Scarlets are kicking the ball away, at least Glasgow are running the ball.

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar - 20:10

George Carlin wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Who the hell is commentating and keeps referring to the Scarlets as "Llanelli"?

Even I know that's wrong.

English I take it? The lead commentator sounds like Gareth Charles (the usual scrum v commentator). The other one is Dragons forwards' coach Kingsley Jones.
It's Ed Kalman, Glasgow's prop. He's from Plymouth, which is close enough to Wales for him to know better.

Ah, is that Alba then? I'm watching on S4C English commentary.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 22 Mar - 20:12

Risca Rev wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Who the hell is commentating and keeps referring to the Scarlets as "Llanelli"?

Even I know that's wrong.

English I take it? The lead commentator sounds like Gareth Charles (the usual scrum v commentator). The other one is Dragons forwards' coach Kingsley Jones.
It's Ed Kalman, Glasgow's prop. He's from Plymouth, which is close enough to Wales for him to know better.

Ah, is that Alba then? I'm watching on S4C English commentary.
Yep. Gaelic gobbledygook. OK 
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 20:13

Nice up and under, dreadful play.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 22 Mar - 20:14

Al Kellock really strikes fear into the hearts of the opposition
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 22 Mar - 20:16

Had to be yellow again or even a penalty try!

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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar - 20:17

Harsh on Cusiter. Thought pass from Davies looked pretty forward anyway.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 22 Mar - 20:17

Nonsense penalty decision. He went for the ball with both hands
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Post by George Carlin Sat 22 Mar - 20:21

Will take that win in the appalling weather. We didn't really deserve to deny them the LBP, but I'm obviously glad that we did.

Our defence and aggression at the breakdown was very good and we didn't let their excellent backs in once.

Standout performances from a Glasgow perspective from Cusiter (good service, couple of great breaks), Murchie (looked excellent and sharp, excellent he's back), Dunbar (always made yards, kept JD2 well in hand) and J. Gray (who got everywhere and made a pain in the hole of himself).

Weir did not look good at all tonight, Jackson looked much better.
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Post by Guest Sat 22 Mar - 20:38

Did the Dragons a favour as well. Any win v Connacht tomorrow and it's a good battle for 6th. Though we will inevitably lose at PYS when it comes down to it regardless of how close we are.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 22 Mar - 21:23

You wouldn't have think that Murchie was playing his 1st game for a long time, excellent performance from him. Big shifts from Gray jnr and Strauss, good to see Harley carrying the ball.
Scrum deteriorated when Low came on but not a surprise for me.

Overall a well deserved win and it would have flattered the Scarlets had they taken a bonus point.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 22 Mar - 21:55

I hope the 6ns hasn't destroyed weir entirely
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Post by George Carlin Sun 23 Mar - 7:46

Scotsman reporting that Weir played for about an hour, the last half of which he was carrying a broken nose. So I guess we should give him a, er, break.
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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Sun 23 Mar - 8:24

glamorganalun wrote:No wonder Scottish is in a mess with all the SH players and only two teams.

In all fairness to Glasgow 13 of the starting 15 were Scottish. Strauss is on his way to being Scottish Qualified and Niko was only starting because we have so many backs out.

Niko got man of the match at the game, thought he played well enough, but thought MOM should have gone to Strauss. Really great to have Murchie back, such a solid performer and Vernon continues to improve.

Although we never looked like running away with it, I thought it was our most convincing performance for a while as we were in control for most of the game.

John Barclay didn't have much affect on the game which was good.

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Post by RDW Sun 23 Mar - 8:24

Great win Glasgow, and thanks for denying the scarlets a lbp!

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Post by MacKnocked-on Sun 23 Mar - 10:47

George Carlin wrote:Will take that win in the appalling weather. We didn't really deserve to deny them the LBP, but I'm obviously glad that we did.

Our defence and aggression at the breakdown was very good and we didn't let their excellent backs in once.

Standout performances from a Glasgow perspective from Cusiter (good service, couple of great breaks), Murchie (looked excellent and sharp, excellent he's back), Dunbar (always made yards, kept JD2 well in hand) and J. Gray (who got everywhere and made a pain in the hole of himself).

Weir did not look good at all tonight, Jackson looked much better.

As you say, a good performance from all concerned but wasn't JD2 in direct opposition to Vernon rather than Dunbar last night? I think the conversion of Vernon to centre is looking quite successful so far, if anything he needs to back himself more. I thought Gray was fantastic, his intensity for the whole match is incredible.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 23 Mar - 11:05

MacKnocked-on wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Will take that win in the appalling weather. We didn't really deserve to deny them the LBP, but I'm obviously glad that we did.

Our defence and aggression at the breakdown was very good and we didn't let their excellent backs in once.

Standout performances from a Glasgow perspective from Cusiter (good service, couple of great breaks), Murchie (looked excellent and sharp, excellent he's back), Dunbar (always made yards, kept JD2 well in hand) and J. Gray (who got everywhere and made a pain in the hole of himself).

Weir did not look good at all tonight, Jackson looked much better.

As you say, a good performance from all concerned but wasn't JD2 in direct opposition to Vernon rather than Dunbar last night? I think the conversion of Vernon to centre is looking quite successful so far, if anything he needs to back himself more. I thought Gray was fantastic, his intensity for the whole match is incredible.
Yes, he was but whenever I saw JD knocked on his backside it was either Dunbar or later in the game, the Messiah, who was responsible.

Toonie interview this morning mentioned that the intensity was good but lack of match sharpness after everyone not having played for nearly 4 weeks showed.

Very interested that there's been no announcement about the Rhubarb yet. Is he going or staying?
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Post by VinceWLB Sun 23 Mar - 14:20

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Very interested that there's been no announcement about the Rhubarb yet. Is he going or staying?

I think would have kept Rhubarb instead of Weir. Weir's strenght was his kicking game and he doesn't have it anymore.

Jackson is a great ball playing 10...

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Post by TJ Sun 23 Mar - 18:04

Weir is 22 has had not that many starts. To say he doesn't have it anymore to any aspect of his game is daft

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Post by tigertattie Sun 23 Mar - 18:31

Thought his nose looked like it had moved to the side by an inch.

Glasgow need to persevere with Weir. Scotland can't afford to throw stand offs away.
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Post by justified sinner Sun 23 Mar - 18:34

I don't think Weir has trained on as well as expected this year, but still looks a very promising player. Worth sticking with.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 23 Mar - 19:26

The time must surely be coming when the Gray brothers start together for Scotland.

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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Mon 24 Mar - 8:27

George Carlin wrote:
MacKnocked-on wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Will take that win in the appalling weather. We didn't really deserve to deny them the LBP, but I'm obviously glad that we did.

Our defence and aggression at the breakdown was very good and we didn't let their excellent backs in once.

Standout performances from a Glasgow perspective from Cusiter (good service, couple of great breaks), Murchie (looked excellent and sharp, excellent he's back), Dunbar (always made yards, kept JD2 well in hand) and J. Gray (who got everywhere and made a pain in the hole of himself).

Weir did not look good at all tonight, Jackson looked much better.

As you say, a good performance from all concerned but wasn't JD2 in direct opposition to Vernon rather than Dunbar last night? I think the conversion of Vernon to centre is looking quite successful so far, if anything he needs to back himself more. I thought Gray was fantastic, his intensity for the whole match is incredible.
Yes, he was but whenever I saw JD knocked on his backside it was either Dunbar or later in the game, the Messiah, who was responsible.

Toonie interview this morning mentioned that the intensity was good but lack of match sharpness after everyone not having played for nearly 4 weeks showed.

Very interested that there's been no announcement about the Rhubarb yet. Is he going or staying?

Jackson is not being offered a new contract.

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Post by jimbopip Mon 24 Mar - 9:16

Mixed feelings about Jackson. Hope he gets a club which will push him that little bit more, he could still be a very valuable asset to Scotland.
Saturday's game;
POSITIVES; handling, off-loading, team looked sharp and confident, Cusiter excellent, Niko just Niko, Richie V is looking good in the centres, Murchie was good too.
NEGATIVES; not enough tries.

Still when you consider; Cusack, Kalman, MacArthur, Ryder, Holmes, Jedi, Wilson, Pyrgos, Maitland, DTH, Hogg and Hornee were all missing it doesn't look too bad.Yes I know I haven't included our recent signings

The four teams above us all play each other before the end of the season and we have three games against Italian opposition. Oh and the MFL! But the matches against Hairspays, Ulster and Munster will be massive. We have a perfect chance to go on a winning run and build up some real momentum going into the playoffs.

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Post by TJ Mon 24 Mar - 9:32

Jackson has gone as far as he can with Glasgow and Scotland. France?

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