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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 12 Apr 2014, 4:45 pm

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Seriously desperate now, please score Norwich
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:22 am

Mackay or Clarke would do a superb job with Norwich.

Mackay more so, he was doing superb at Cardiff. With a good owner, he will do fine in the Premiership.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:23 am

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FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

If Di Canio gets a gig in this country again I'll give you a pound, or two.


The media have killed him, but I think hes been proved right about those Sunderland players.

I think Sunderland got the appointment wrong, i said at the time, Gus wasn't the correct decision, they needed a calm experience manager.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:23 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Be surprised if he left Bournemouth for Norwich. Malky is surely nailed? Steve Clarke would get considered. All of Nick's favourites!

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

Hey we're an attractive job for someone if we go down, nucleus of a good squad (for that level), no financial restrictions, good following. High expectations I'd imagine

Hopefully someone with a more free attacking mindset like we played with today. That's when we've always done best as a club, we're just not suited to the defensive no pressure style. Even lump it forward we like
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Post by Guest Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:30 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

If Di Canio gets a gig in this country again I'll give you a pound, or two.


The media have killed him, but I think hes been proved right about those Sunderland players.

And?

He's done nothing to warrant another job in this country.

Tactically inept and as far as man management goes...

I get that he was a West Ham legend and I loved him as a player myself but management isn't his bag.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:39 am

FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

If Di Canio gets a gig in this country again I'll give you a pound, or two.


The media have killed him, but I think hes been proved right about those Sunderland players.

And?

He's done nothing to warrant another job in this country.

Tactically inept and as far as man management goes...

I get that he was a West Ham legend and I loved him as a player myself but management isn't his bag.

Tactically inept on what basis? He kept Sunderland up and instilled a spirit in them for those games that Poyet has never charged into Sunderland. He then became unpopular for changing too much that the players were comfortable with and trying to get rid of big characters. Those included Cattermole and Bardsley. His reasons on both were justified. He did a good job at Swindon, even if he had money. Ask Arry down at dear old QPR, or the list of Leicester managers who didnt cut it. Takes a character to get the job done in those positions.

Maybe if he'd had control over transfers at Sunderland they would be a lot better off than they are. They turned down his request to sign Huddlestone for example, a player they clearly would have got over Hull and would have improved them a lot. They didn't back him fully to get rid of Cattermole and Bardsley either.

I'm not gonna say it was a success at Sunderland, but people have got to get some perspective after the nonsense they have been fed in the papers.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:43 am

Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Be surprised if he left Bournemouth for Norwich. Malky is surely nailed? Steve Clarke would get considered. All of Nick's favourites!

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

Hey we're an attractive job for someone if we go down, nucleus of a good squad (for that level), no financial restrictions, good following. High expectations I'd imagine

Hopefully someone with a more free attacking mindset like we played with today. That's when we've always done best as a club, we're just not suited to the defensive no pressure style. Even lump it forward we like

You are attractive, to some managers. But Eddie Howe is very comfortable at that club and probably scents that he can do big things with them. Include the money they have in their coffers and his love for Bournemouth and I don't see him risking it. I wouldnt expect any established Prem manager to take the job on.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:44 am

While we're on managers, it seems Louis Van Gaal is now being linked to the Arsenal. So, hes on for one of United, Spurs or Arsenal in the eyes of the papers.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:47 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Be surprised if he left Bournemouth for Norwich. Malky is surely nailed? Steve Clarke would get considered. All of Nick's favourites!

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

Hey we're an attractive job for someone if we go down, nucleus of a good squad (for that level), no financial restrictions, good following. High expectations I'd imagine

Hopefully someone with a more free attacking mindset like we played with today. That's when we've always done best as a club, we're just not suited to the defensive no pressure style. Even lump it forward we like

You are attractive, to some managers. But Eddie Howe is very comfortable at that club and probably scents that he can do big things with them. Include the money they have in their coffers and his love for Bournemouth and I don't see him risking it. I wouldnt expect any established Prem manager to take the job on.

Tbf you're right on Howe, he's well in his comfort zone there. We ain't getting anyone from the Prem lol

Whatever happened to Karl Robinson? I'm still convinced it'll be Lennon
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Post by TopoftheChops Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:49 am

I've never felt more like singing the Blues,
When Ipswich win and Norwich lose,
Oh Ipswich you've got me singing the blues

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:51 am

TopoftheChops wrote:I've never felt more like singing the Blues,
When Ipswich win and Norwich lose,
Oh Ipswich you've got me singing the blues

The only positive of going down is that we'll spank your lot twice next season

(Although if you'd kindly make the playoffs and win me money that'd be great)
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:51 am

God, Lennon in the English media. I'd start to dislike Norwich then. Karl Robinson probably a worthy shout, they won't make the playoffs this year and hes never done anything wrong in the job really.

Could try for Zola. You won't defend at all then.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:53 am

I wouldnt be entirely surprised to see you try for Darren Ferguson either. Im still undecided on him.

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Post by Guest Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:53 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

If Di Canio gets a gig in this country again I'll give you a pound, or two.


The media have killed him, but I think hes been proved right about those Sunderland players.

And?

He's done nothing to warrant another job in this country.

Tactically inept and as far as man management goes...

I get that he was a West Ham legend and I loved him as a player myself but management isn't his bag.

I'm not gonna say it was a success at Sunderland, but people have got to get some perspective after the nonsense they have been fed in the papers.

The whole fascism went over my head anyway, if that's what you are alluding to?

He won 3 out of 13 games as Sunderland manager. Nuff said.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:56 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:God, Lennon in the English media. I'd start to dislike Norwich then. Karl Robinson probably a worthy shout, they won't make the playoffs this year and hes never done anything wrong in the job really.

Could try for Zola. You won't defend at all then.

We could give Alan Curbishley the job for the lolz

If we get Lennon it'll make me happy I'm not renewing my season ticket
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Post by Guest Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:58 am

Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:God, Lennon in the English media. I'd start to dislike Norwich then. Karl Robinson probably a worthy shout, they won't make the playoffs this year and hes never done anything wrong in the job really.

Could try for Zola. You won't defend at all then.

We could give Alan Curbishley the job for the lolz

If we get Lennon it'll make me happy I'm not renewing my season ticket

I genuinely hate Lennon and I can't reason why.


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:02 am

FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

Get Di Canio. I promise you you'd enjoy it

If Di Canio gets a gig in this country again I'll give you a pound, or two.


The media have killed him, but I think hes been proved right about those Sunderland players.

And?

He's done nothing to warrant another job in this country.

Tactically inept and as far as man management goes...

I get that he was a West Ham legend and I loved him as a player myself but management isn't his bag.

I'm not gonna say it was a success at Sunderland, but people have got to get some perspective after the nonsense they have been fed in the papers.

The whole fascism went over my head anyway, if that's what you are alluding to?

He won 3 out of 13 games as Sunderland manager. Nuff said.


No, no, not that, I know you're a smarter man than to bring that stuff into it Freeky! His record wasnt great, we all know, but he's been taken apart by people since but Sunderland are going down anyway and their players have shown a distinct lack of character. Its exactly what Di Canio wanted to instil, he wanted to bring in new characters with an English spine and progressive football. The board denied him, the players got what they wanted cos they didn't like how hard he worked them (which pays off as all his seasons have shown his teams show notable fitness in the latter stages).

Before that, he did well with Swindon. Better managers then Paolo have had a spell at a club that didnt go to plan. But I'm not sure you could look at life since Di Canio and say Sunderland are in any better shape.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:02 am

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:God, Lennon in the English media. I'd start to dislike Norwich then. Karl Robinson probably a worthy shout, they won't make the playoffs this year and hes never done anything wrong in the job really.

Could try for Zola. You won't defend at all then.

We could give Alan Curbishley the job for the lolz

If we get Lennon it'll make me happy I'm not renewing my season ticket

I genuinely hate Lennon and I can't reason why.


I'd probably put it down to him being a t0sser Freeky
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:04 am

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:God, Lennon in the English media. I'd start to dislike Norwich then. Karl Robinson probably a worthy shout, they won't make the playoffs this year and hes never done anything wrong in the job really.

Could try for Zola. You won't defend at all then.

We could give Alan Curbishley the job for the lolz

If we get Lennon it'll make me happy I'm not renewing my season ticket

I genuinely hate Lennon and I can't reason why.


Same. Hes a feisty little swine who has had the easiest job in football and still acts a Kumquat. Wait, I do know why. But I hate him more than those reasons too.

And I dont think Curbs would take it Olly, hes got his retirement fund, he just wants easy jobs. It is in the South though, and we all know he won't move North.

Sherwood? Young manager, will need a new challenge, won't get any better offers, Norwich past.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:08 am

No no no no no no not Sherwood ever

He wasn't even liked during his time here, and got up to shady things
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Post by Guest Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:09 am

Whoever takes the Nodge job is a lucky so and so cos PL management is not easy to find.

#stayingUPOlly

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:17 am

Olly wrote:No no no no no no not Sherwood ever

He wasn't even liked during his time here, and got up to shady things

But everyone likes Arry and thats ALL he's ever up to!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 9:14 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Olly wrote:No no no no no no not Sherwood ever

He wasn't even liked during his time here, and got up to shady things

But everyone likes Arry and thats ALL he's ever up to!

You know I cant stand Arry!
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:03 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:God, Lennon in the English media. I'd start to dislike Norwich then. Karl Robinson probably a worthy shout, they won't make the playoffs this year and hes never done anything wrong in the job really.

Could try for Zola. You won't defend at all then.

We could give Alan Curbishley the job for the lolz

If we get Lennon it'll make me happy I'm not renewing my season ticket

I genuinely hate Lennon and I can't reason why.


Same. Hes a feisty little swine who has had the easiest job in football and still acts a Kumquat. Wait, I do know why. But I hate him more than those reasons too.

And I dont think Curbs would take it Olly, hes got his retirement fund, he just wants easy jobs. It is in the South though, and we all know he won't move North.

Sherwood? Young manager, will need a new challenge, won't get any better offers, Norwich past.

Is it his ginger eyelashes?
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:08 pm

Sherwood has shown to be as good as AVB.

AVB is underatted.

Tottenham however need a great manager. If not an inspirational man manager.

Just get arry back. It works at Tottenham.

If Norwich can get Sherwood. They have done well

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Post by compelling and rich Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:13 pm

cant see sherwood being a success long term, reminds me of a bit of a keane as a manager, demanding of his players and always going on about how he did it when playing. can work in the short term but just ranting and raving after a while will only alienate the dressing room after a while

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:16 pm

How is AVB Underrated?

Did well at FC Porto ill give him that, in a rubbish league.

Chelsea, didn't do very well, granted i think they sacked him too soon.

Tottenham, spent masses amount of money on rubbish and had them getting smashed against Citeh, Liverpool etc. 

Sherwood i think is decent has just been clearing up the mess AVB left behind.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:19 pm

Avb has has never been given the run he deserves in fairness.

Chelsea didn't need 4th spot so we can't judge him finishing 6th in the league. It wasnt important

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:30 pm

Puncheon?


Thoughts lads.

I think he has it all tbh. Holds it up. Strong in the tackle and has an eye for goal.

Some players take time to mature and start playing constantly.

I think he has a big future.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:38 pm

Bloke at work who is a big Palace fan mysti, says he is a classic frustrating player. When he plays well, he is amazing. When he plays poor (which he said has happened more this season) he looks a poor poor player. 

I personally think he looks class. Great buy and suits the Palace style well.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:41 pm

I can't agree with your mate at all tbh. We do not get that many chances. And all our mid fielders and attackers have two jobs.

First track back and postion well. Second counter and score.

Palace have played some much better foote last two games. And puncheon has been able to get a better amount of chances to be able to score

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:54 pm

Puncheon is great in spells. Lets see if he can do it for more than a spell next season.

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Post by Ent Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:57 pm

He's 27 now and I think he has found his level/place/home.

Done well for palace and Pulis, can't see him moving on anywhere in a hurry.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:58 pm

There's a reason he's only picked up by the promoted sides, inconsistency you'd think would be that cos he has all the talent

Good to see Tom Ince proving me right and doing nothing
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:58 pm

He has been fine almost every game. But sometimes you can't get on the ball as a palace player. As long as you do your first job first. As has every palace player to be fair its good enough.

He is back to his home of Croydon and playing at a club that owns him so he will also be mentally more settled.

He went to Southampton young and then got loaned to 5 different clubs. Its going to mess with your mentality.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:59 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:How is AVB Underrated?

Did well at FC Porto ill give him that, in a rubbish league.

Chelsea, didn't do very well, granted i think they sacked him too soon.

Tottenham, spent masses amount of money on rubbish and had them getting smashed against Citeh, Liverpool etc. 

Sherwood i think is decent has just been clearing up the mess AVB left behind.

Not getting smashed against City and Liverpool, how on earth could he let that happen?!

Sherwood has shown himself to be quite tactically behind. They look poor at the back against all opposition.

Didn't AVB get Spurs their record amount of points?

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:59 pm

Nick on sacked managers

Is the manager sacked British--yes--> Harshly treated
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:01 pm

Ent wrote:He's 27 now and I think he has found his level/place/home.

Done well for palace and Pulis, can't see him moving on anywhere in a hurry.

And no one at palace wants him to.. He can get better with us...

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Post by Ent Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:02 pm

No disrespect but a big future would imply moving away from Palace (in my opinion anyway).

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:03 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:How is AVB Underrated?

Did well at FC Porto ill give him that, in a rubbish league.

Chelsea, didn't do very well, granted i think they sacked him too soon.

Tottenham, spent masses amount of money on rubbish and had them getting smashed against Citeh, Liverpool etc. 

Sherwood i think is decent has just been clearing up the mess AVB left behind.

Not getting smashed against City and Liverpool, how on earth could he let that happen?!

Sherwood has shown himself to be quite tactically behind. They look poor at the back against all opposition.

Didn't AVB get Spurs their record amount of points?

Think Gareth Bale did tbh mate. He was miles above most players in the Prem last season.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:03 pm

Wouldn't want Sherwood here no way

Just cos he throws his cost around and looks angry providing a few sound bites didn't make him a good manager, he's tactically awful

I'd rather keep Adams tbh
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:04 pm

GSC wrote:Nick on sacked managers

Is the manager sacked British--yes--> Harshly treated
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:05 pm

Ent wrote:No disrespect but a big future would imply moving away from Palace (in my opinion anyway).

No disrespect taken.

However he is getting on and palace can become a decent pl team.

If we do go down at some point in the next 3 years and punch keeps his level up he would probally be taken up by a mid table team



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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:06 pm

GSC wrote:Nick on sacked managers

Is the manager sacked British--yes--> Harshly treated
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Is the manager who replaced him British --yes--> Cleaning up his mess
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Well i for one want to see more British managers, rather than more forgien managers coming in.

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Post by kingraf Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:08 pm

Big day, I suppose. City-Pool to draw, Chelsea to win
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Post by GSC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:09 pm

If British managers are good enough they'll get jobs
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Post by GSC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:10 pm

Unless you seriously want more Paul Inces in the PL
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Post by Ent Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:10 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Ent wrote:No disrespect but a big future would imply moving away from Palace (in my opinion anyway).

No disrespect taken.

However he is getting on and palace can become a decent pl team.

If we do go down at some point in the next 3 years and punch keeps his level up he would probally be taken up by a mid table team



Agreed, just not sure about the big future comment.

I see the rumour about Lallana and Shaw has resurfaced for United.

Really not sure about Shaw at all, especially at the touted fee. Lallana is a decent player but no world beater and we have mata, Kagawa and Rooney already in those in between attacking positions.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:12 pm

GSC wrote:Unless you seriously want more Paul Inces in the PL

That i most certainly don't want to see.

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:14 pm

British managers have to prove they're good enough then.

Moyes, Martinez and Rodgers all came up from lower leagues to manage big PL sides.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:15 pm

Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
Ent wrote:No disrespect but a big future would imply moving away from Palace (in my opinion anyway).

No disrespect taken.

However he is getting on and palace can become a decent pl team.

If we do go down at some point in the next 3 years and punch keeps his level up he would probally be taken up by a mid table team



Agreed, just not sure about the big future comment.

I see the rumour about Lallana and Shaw has resurfaced for United.

Really not sure about Shaw at all, especially at the touted fee. Lallana is a decent player but no world beater and we have mata, Kagawa and Rooney already in those in between attacking positions.

Big future for me and you are different things mate.


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