The Official *England's Journey to Brazil 2014* Thread

by Calder106 Thu 06 Mar 2014, 3:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

Wilshere out for 6 weeks according to BBC. Hairline fracture on foot. Considering Arsenal have been nursing him through the season because of his ankle injuries I think it would be a risk taking him (not questioning his ability) due to the tight schedule of games.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 05 May 2014, 8:04 pm

I'd concur with that Dolph

by mystiroakey Mon 05 May 2014, 9:53 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Think Clyne is a better right back than Flanagan has shown

Ward as well...

by Duty281 Mon 05 May 2014, 10:06 pm

Have you come down from the peak of Mount Everest yet, Mysti, or do you still think Shaw in the centre of midfield is a good idea? Wink

by The Special Juan Mon 05 May 2014, 10:11 pm

JENKINSON!

by Duty281 Mon 05 May 2014, 10:14 pm

Red Nev on a comeback!

by mystiroakey Mon 05 May 2014, 10:18 pm

Not sure duty. Can't really remember posting it..... Lol

by Duty281 Mon 05 May 2014, 10:20 pm

That's how incredibly high you were!

by mystiroakey Mon 05 May 2014, 10:25 pm

Mate I was messed up. Shocked

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 05 May 2014, 10:28 pm

Glen Johnson worries me so so much this summer

by Steffan Mon 05 May 2014, 10:32 pm

I really hope England pick Glen Johnson

by Duty281 Mon 05 May 2014, 10:42 pm

I really hope England pick Glen Johnson.

Because the alternative is Kyle Walker...

by mystiroakey Mon 05 May 2014, 10:43 pm

Same here steffan. Glad we are on the same page........

Albeit for different reasons....

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 05 May 2014, 10:48 pm

Duty281 wrote:I really hope England pick Glen Johnson.

Because the alternative is Kyle Walker...

Micah Richards

What could've been

by NickisBHAFC Mon 05 May 2014, 10:48 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Think Clyne is a better right back than Flanagan has shown

Ward as well...

Mysti, Joel Ward for England?

Yes Palace have been great this season, but lets not get silly.

by mystiroakey Mon 05 May 2014, 10:49 pm

#WARDFORENGGERLAND

by Trebs Tue 06 May 2014, 10:20 am

Smalling has been very good for United this season, probably their best defender, he is very under-rated. Jones has been alright but has so much potential and I'd bet anything that he'll go to Brazil.

by Ent Tue 06 May 2014, 11:56 am

Jones has been appalling, like he's never seen a football before.

Smalling has been very average.

I'd expect both them to go to the World Cup mind, jones can embarass himself on the biggest stage of all.

by Guest Tue 06 May 2014, 12:01 pm

The only reason this discussion came up was because someone had delusional thoughts of taking another Liverpool defender with no caps to the WC. It will be Smalling for sure & although he's not very good, Jones will probably go, because he can play two or three positions & is versatile. End of.

by NickisBHAFC Tue 06 May 2014, 3:08 pm

Thinking back on it. Jon Flanagan at RB really could work, especially that Glen Johnson got torn apart by Yannic Bolasie last night.

by Duty281 Tue 06 May 2014, 3:12 pm

Glen Johnson will be sound in an England shirt this summer, and he'll be playing with a much stronger defensive unit as a whole.

There is no need to jump to rash judgement.

by Duty281 Tue 06 May 2014, 3:30 pm

The En-ger-land daily squad rumour:

According to the Telegraph, the final midfield spot, and indeed the final place in the twenty-three, is between Ross Barkley and Michael Carrick.

And it seems that Barkley will be chosen over Carrick.

If this rumour is true, one must assume that either Henderson or (brace yourself, sit down) Lampard is going to be in the 23.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 06 May 2014, 4:24 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Thinking back on it. Jon Flanagan at RB really could work, especially that Glen Johnson got torn apart by Yannic Bolasie last night.

Because Flanagan was so solid last night also...

by nasisillmatic Tue 06 May 2014, 4:44 pm

Olly wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:Thinking back on it. Jon Flanagan at RB really could work, especially that Glen Johnson got torn apart by Yannic Bolasie last night.
Because Flanagan was so solid last night also...

It was one game. He's been very reliable all season, and coped well with the pressure of playing in a side challenging for the league.

by Duty281 Wed 07 May 2014, 11:58 am

Jamie Redknapp with a passionate article in the Daily Mail today, saying how England should be bold and pick some promising young footballers, like Shaw, Oxlade, Sterling, and Barkley.

He still finds room for his dear cousin, though. Doh

by Duty281 Wed 07 May 2014, 12:02 pm

It looks like Phil Jones will be ruled out of the World Cup after seeing a shoulder specalist for his injury. That is, at least, what the media are whispering.

If that happens, I imagine Kyle Walker will be near a certainty to make the final 23.

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 12:06 pm

Not fussed really. Hes not that good.

How does such a good looking family produce Harry Redknapp

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 12:35 pm

Rio Ferdinand will be going to Brazil.

Spoiler:

by Duty281 Wed 07 May 2014, 12:38 pm

If I paid a license fee I'd be rather irate.

Rio is a clown who struggles to speak in coherent sentences.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 1:22 pm

Still living at mom's duty Wink

Its not like i didn't till I was 26 or anything lol.

So the whole terry thing might be becoming clearer then- Its one or the other and Rio will be prefered....

Crazy to think the only old player that has truly shone out all season is Terry(ok gerrard has played well but tailed of when it has really mattered)

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 1:24 pm

And Terrys been very much protected.

Tbh, I'd take Henderson over Carrick regardless.

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 1:25 pm

In the heat of Brazil, and given Roys tactics, its a fair assumption we'll be doing some ball chasing. We'd be overrun with Gerrard and Carrick. Henderson gives some legs and energy in there.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 1:25 pm

So would I- but i have no idea why its a choice!

both should go- however not having carrick in the team will tell us that roy doesnt want a back 5- which is all that carrick gives you and will be looking at a more attacking side

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 07 May 2014, 1:36 pm

Its no surprise Liverpool's slip up has come as Henderson has been suspended...

by **Crimey** Wed 07 May 2014, 1:37 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Crazy to think the only old player that has truly shone out all season is Terry(ok gerrard has played well but tailed of when it has really mattered)

"ok"

Nominated in the PFA awards.
PFA Team of the Year.
2nd in the FWA Player awards.

He made one mistake against Chelsea and then was desperate to make up for it which ruined his game entirely, but apart from that he's been fantastic. I definitely think he has outshone Terry.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 1:38 pm

true that olly- yep good shout.

by **Crimey** Wed 07 May 2014, 1:39 pm

Olly wrote:Its no surprise Liverpool's slip up has come as Henderson has been suspended...

I don't know if you are joking or not, but I certainly think there is a case for that to be true. The team has always looked better with Henderson in the side and he would have tired Chelsea out with his running as well as making the runs that could have actually hurt the defence, with Allen and Lucas you just don't get that. I think against Palace as well he would have been a key player at seeing the game out.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 1:40 pm

Crimey wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Crazy to think the only old player that has truly shone out all season is Terry(ok gerrard has played well but tailed of when it has really mattered)

"ok"

Nominated in the PFA awards.
PFA Team of the Year.
2nd in the FWA Player awards.

He made one mistake against Chelsea and then was desperate to make up for it which ruined his game entirely, but apart from that he's been fantastic. I definitely think he has outshone Terry.

I said he played well not OK

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 07 May 2014, 1:40 pm

I think its 100% true

Lucas/Allen were non existent in the second half at Palace

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 1:41 pm

Allens just non existant in general. Waste of space

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 1:41 pm

Crimey wrote:
Olly wrote:Its no surprise Liverpool's slip up has come as Henderson has been suspended...

I don't know if you are joking or not, but I certainly think there is a case for that to be true. The team has always looked better with Henderson in the side and he would have tired Chelsea out with his running as well as making the runs that could have actually hurt the defence, with Allen and Lucas you just don't get that. I think against Palace as well he would have been a key player at seeing the game out.

no he isnt joking- its true henderson has aided gerrard and liverpool a lot- together they have been a great unit.

It gives me more hope as an england fan if Roy plays them both.. Bakley can then run the opposition ragged at a later point

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 1:47 pm

Gonna need a 3 man midfield if we play Gerrard, with 2 mobile CMs. Heats gonna be a killer.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 1:49 pm

play the 3 then - henderson and barkley.

i can see it working well enough-and then just the one striker(rooney just over sturridge) what i cant see working is gerrard without henderson and vice versa

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 1:54 pm

I don't know if Barkley as a CM works. I'd prefer Lallana in there

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 2:01 pm

lallana is my first player on the team sheet with sterling - but as the wide players

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 2:02 pm

Welbeck will start wide.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 2:06 pm

thats my fear

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 2:08 pm

Its Roy. Safety first is the mantra. Its also why we'll only be there for a week or so

by **Crimey** Wed 07 May 2014, 2:53 pm

It's a shame as Sterling is actually fantastic defensively, always tracks his runner and I believe has one of the best tackling rates in the Liverpool squad.

by mystiroakey Wed 07 May 2014, 2:56 pm

He is becoming a complete player. Keeps impressing and keeps improving.

BUT GSC come on mate a bit of Optimism will be nice. He is thinking about leaving Carrick at home!!

by GSC Wed 07 May 2014, 2:58 pm

Its hard to be optimistic when England haven't given you any reason to be for a solid 8 years now.

Hart
Johnson-Jagielka-Cahill-Baines
Welbeck-Gerrard-Carrick-Lallana
Rooney
Sturridge

probably starting lineup.

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