Aviva Premiership - Round 22

by Scrumpy Fri May 09, 2014 4:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

Sat 10th May 15:15 Harlequins v Bath Rugby - BT Sport
Sat 10th May 15:15 Leicester Tigers v Saracens
Sat 10th May 15:15 London Irish v Sale Sharks
Sat 10th May 15:15 Newcastle Falcons v Exeter Chiefs
Sat 10th May 15:15 Northampton Saints v London Wasps - BT Sport
Sat 10th May 15:15 Worcester Warriors v Gloucester Rugby

Pos PTS
1 Saracens 85
2 Northampton Saints 73
3 Leicester Tigers 69
4 Bath Rugby 66
5 Harlequins 63
6 Sale Sharks 56
7 London Wasps 49
8 Gloucester Rugby 42
9 Exeter Chiefs 41
10 London Irish 32
11 Newcastle Falcons 22
12 Worcester Warriors 12

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:03 pm

Quins, unless Bath get 2 BPs

by **Rugby Fan** Sat May 10, 2014 4:04 pm

No more worries for Saints. The have a four try bonus point so the home semi final is secure.

by HammerofThunor Sat May 10, 2014 4:04 pm

Quins. Bath need two points (without Quins getting 5) to go through

by doctor_grey Sat May 10, 2014 4:17 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:The lead again. 10-7. Ford worries me, he's the way for Bath to win this game, but if he gets injured that's awful for England

If he continues to put kicks into the nearest Quins defender, you needn't worry about the match result. Quins do look better but this is really on the knife edge.

Saints have their bonus point at halftime, actually got all 4 tries in the second quarter. Need to keep this up for the next 14 quarters so I can be happy. And I like to be happy.........

by formerly known as Sam Sat May 10, 2014 4:21 pm

Tigers took 20 mins yo get going bug dominated thereafter. Stankovitch, Parling and Williams all injured in the first half. Late penalty try ar the scrum but a gloss on the first half though a Sarries player was lucky not to receive a card for a nasty tackle on Mele just before.

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:27 pm

If Ford could have some of his trademark misses wit the boot it would be nice

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 4:30 pm

Melck apparently red carded for a gouge!

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 4:31 pm

i see everyone keeps tapping sinkler on the head.

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:35 pm

Should be a second yellow

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:40 pm

16-10, Sinckler is a beast

by doctor_grey Sat May 10, 2014 4:42 pm

Why was that last sequence a Quins penalty? Looked to me Sinckler pushed Stringer away from the ball in touch. I would have given it to Bath. Or was the penalty given for the little pushing between the teams right after? I didn't hear what was said on tv?

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 4:42 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:16-10, Sinckler is a beast

Bath trying their hardest to wind him up! Normal practice from bath

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 4:43 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Why was that last sequence a Quins penalty? Looked to me Sinckler pushed Stringer away from the ball in touch. I would have given it to Bath. Or was the penalty given for the little pushing between the teams right after? I didn't hear what was said on yv?

The ball was carried out by bath, stringer then dropped the ball and tried to pick it up again to delay the quick throw in. Sinckler pushed him off the ball.

by doctor_grey Sat May 10, 2014 4:45 pm

Saints 53 - Wasps 13.

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:46 pm

Good call on no advantage, Mr Barnes

by doctor_grey Sat May 10, 2014 4:46 pm

nathan wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:Why was that last sequence a Quins penalty? Looked to me Sinckler pushed Stringer away from the ball in touch. I would have given it to Bath. Or was the penalty given for the little pushing between the teams right after? I didn't hear what was said on yv?

The ball was carried out by bath, stringer then dropped the ball and tried to pick it up again to delay the quick throw in. Sinckler pushed him off the ball.

Ah, makes sense. Thanks.

by Scoped Sat May 10, 2014 4:51 pm

Wow Barnes has missed a lot of naughtiness. Some blocking there frpm Quins and a lot of off the feet at rucks.

by HammerofThunor Sat May 10, 2014 4:52 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Saints 53 - Wasps 13.

Like I said, Saints are on the slide Smile

by doctor_grey Sat May 10, 2014 4:54 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:Saints 53 - Wasps 13.

Like I said, Saints are on the slide

If I give you a tenner, can you please make the same prediction for the next three weekends?

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:54 pm

Why has ford waited until today to kick competently?

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 4:57 pm

Kickoffs in this match have been hilarious

by HammerofThunor Sat May 10, 2014 4:59 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
HammerofThunor wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:Saints 53 - Wasps 13.

Like I said, Saints are on the slide
If I give you a tenner, can you please make the same prediction for the next three weekends?

For you Doc, I'll do it for free (and that wasn't a prediction, it was a comment after Wasps went ahead Smile

)

by Scoped Sat May 10, 2014 5:04 pm

What the hell do Bath have to do for a scrum penalty?!

by Geordie Sat May 10, 2014 5:05 pm

What the hell has gone one at Saints....74 - 13!! Erm

by **Rugby Fan** Sat May 10, 2014 5:10 pm

Don't know why Ford tried a drop goal from there.

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 5:10 pm

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by HammerofThunor Sat May 10, 2014 5:11 pm

Same top four as last year.

by Scoped Sat May 10, 2014 5:11 pm

Impatience from Ford. Miles away in every sense of the term.

by Geordie Sat May 10, 2014 5:16 pm

See Wuss got a win aswell...deserved in my opinion after their performances in the last half of the season...

We got beat again to Exeter...meh.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat May 10, 2014 5:16 pm

OK, a comfortable win over Falcons and Glaws loss to Wuss sees us finish in 8th, our worst prem placing since arriving, equal with our first year. Disappointing overall, but set against that the silverware, even if it was just the LV= Cup, and performances like our first 40 mins against Cardiff and their 6 B&I Lions. Personal highlight of the season tho was the away trip to Toulon, and partying with the team afterwards down on the waterfront. Proud of Exe

Chief

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 5:18 pm

Very sloppy game from Tigers, will give something for Cockers to roast them about for the next two weeks although it will be a very different team next week.

by Geordie Sat May 10, 2014 5:19 pm

Interesting thing is that IF it was to be a quins v Saints final..(only saying IF) that would have HUGE issues for the first England test in NZ...

by **Ozzy3213** Sat May 10, 2014 5:19 pm

Nice to end the season with a win, albeit it was a dead rubber.

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 5:22 pm

Bad luck Bath, heart in mouth thrilling match . Bring on Sarries

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat May 10, 2014 5:23 pm

Good to see Wayne Barnes dealing with Robshaw and Care attempting to join him on the refereeing panel for today's game

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 5:24 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Good to see Wayne Barnes dealing with Robshaw and Care attempting to join him on the refereeing panel for today's game

was i watching the same game?

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sat May 10, 2014 5:25 pm

At least he told them on a couple of occasions to give it a rest, which is better than last week's ref!

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 5:26 pm

I'm glad he saw our DG attempt as using up advantage. Barnes never lets Danny quick tap though!

by sirtidychris Sat May 10, 2014 5:27 pm

Sad seeing bath fall at the last hurdle but success in knock out rugby comes with experience and the top 4 have been there and done it a lot recently. Also it was a big ask with Webber, Garvey and louw away. Luckily for us we still have the amlin final to aim for.

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 5:29 pm

Robshaw gets flak for England for not being verbal enough to the refs, so his change in this regard is a good thing. Smile

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 5:31 pm

not the best example to use o'shea!

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat May 10, 2014 5:35 pm

Has anybody checked what was in the Saints water bottles, 74 unanswered point. Is that a AP record?

I weakened wasps side, but once they woke up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Feeling better about the game against the little kittens from across the road now.

Meeeoooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat May 10, 2014 5:36 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:I'm glad he saw our DG attempt as using up advantage. Barnes never lets Danny quick tap though!

As a neutral, I thought that that should have been a penalty, deliberate knock on, only one hand attempting to catch the ball.

by nathan Sat May 10, 2014 5:36 pm

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Has anybody checked what was in the Saints water bottles, 74 unanswered point. Is that a AP record?

I weakened wasps side, but once they woke up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Feeling better about the game against the little kittens from across the road now.

Meeeoooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

that was Saints final, they will play poorly next week against us. Then they will blame the ref!

by Bathite Sat May 10, 2014 5:40 pm

Gutted. 20 weeks in the top four and that happens. Losing at home to Sale is the turning point, should have been a simple 4 points, but that debacle at the end of the game leaves a sour taste. Good performance from us today though, without our best three forwards, but Quins deserve it. Well played Quins, cracking game. They are going to be scary next year with sinkler a season on and Yarde on a wing!

by ChequeredJersey Sat May 10, 2014 5:44 pm

Still got a cup to play for, Bathite, and Saints will be distracted or demoralised depending how their SF goes

by formerly known as Sam Sat May 10, 2014 5:45 pm

Sarries were awesome for the first 20 mins and after that it was largely Tigers. Waldrom gifted Sarries two tries with blind passes to put Itoje the ball 10m out then set Spencer free.

Might be worrying for Sarries that Balmain deconstructed first Gill when playing his natural tight head and then switched to loose when the imposing young Italian Pasquali came on and did a number on Johnston.

Didn't see the Melck incident. Came after Tigers had barrelled a rolling maul to within a metre then spread the ball wide for Manu to score. Melck was clearly involved in the maul and the AR made the decision whilst Flood was lining up the kick. No replay. The AR called it , told the ref and a straight red.

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat May 10, 2014 7:32 pm

nathan wrote:
WELL-PAST-IT wrote:Has anybody checked what was in the Saints water bottles, 74 unanswered point. Is that a AP record?

I weakened wasps side, but once they woke up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Feeling better about the game against the little kittens from across the road now.

Meeeoooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

that was Saints final, they will play poorly next week against us. Then they will blame the ref!

All refs hate Saints, that is taken for granted, you can't be at God's right hand and not be hated by the likes of referees who will be judged at some late date in the future with some influence from a few SAINTS.

I certainly hope that Saints don't play poorly, but Tigers are on a roll at the moment and with Croft back as well............................. Just make sure Tank is playing so that he can gift us a few tries.

It will be interesting to see which centre can stop the opposition "unstoppable force's", Allen or Pisi. Tigers probably have the edge in the front 3 but I prefer Lawes and Manoa to Slater and Kitchiner and Wood, Clarke and Dickinson are a better unit I think than whatever backrow Tigers put out, if not better individually.

by formerly known as Sam Sat May 10, 2014 7:47 pm

Personally I'd take Slater and Kitchener over any second row combo that Saints can name.

Croft looked Ok but didn't really get into the game. Mafi looked more influential though Croft exerted more pressure on the Sarries line out.

I expect a Tigers team of;

Ayerza, Youngs, Mulipola
Slater, Kitchener
Gibson, Crane, Salvi
Youngs, Flood
Allen, Manu
Goneva, Tait, Morris

With Williams, Parling, Stanko and Scully going off injured it'll be interesting to see who is fit. Given that Matera was probably man if the match I'd have thought he'd take the back row sub spot over Waldrom or Croft. He is a beast and gets through an awful lot of work.

by westisbest Sat May 10, 2014 7:54 pm

Was at Welford Rd today. As a neutral.

Really enjoyed the game.

Morris and Sculley, are they the main 2 wingers, or they rotate.

Like welford rd, good ground.

second time i've been there, was there for the irish game at end of last season.

Be tough for the Tigers away to Saints.

Great win for them.

Also good to see Irish win.

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