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RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
First topic message reminder :
Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby
Friday 16 May 2014, KO: 19:35
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
Live on BBC ALBA/TG4/SC4
Referee: Marius Mitrea (FIR, 29th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Giuseppe Vivarini, Stefano Penne (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Dennis Jones (WRU)
TMO: Carlo Damasco (FIR)
A. Teams:
I. Glasgow
15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Finn Russell
9. Chris Cusiter
1. Ryan Grant
2. Dougie Hall
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Rob Harley
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Josh Strauss
16. Pat MacArthur
17. Gordon Reid
18. Geoff Cross
19. Tim Swinson
20. Leone Nakarawa
21. Niko Matawalu
22. Ruaridh Jackson
23. Sean Lamont
II. Munster
Felix Jones, Keith Earls, Casey Laulala, James Downey, Simon Zebo; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Damien Varley - Capt, BJ Botha; Dave Foley, Paul O'Connell; CJ Stander, Sean Dougall, James Coughlan.
Replacements: Quentin MacDonald, James Cronin, John Ryan, Donncha O'Callaghan, Paddy Butler, Duncan Williams, JJ Hanrahan, Andrew Conway.
B. Previous Championships
I. Glasgow
None
Playoff Record - Played 3, Lost 3:
2010 Swansea: lost to Ospreys 5-20
2012 RDS: lost to Leinster 15-19.
2013 RDS: lost to Leinster 15-17.
II. Munster
Three (2002-2003; 2008-2009; 2010-2011)
Playoff Record - Played 3, Won 1, Lost 2:
2010 RDS: lost to Leinster 6-16.
2011 Thomond Park: beat Ospreys 18-11.
2012 Swansea: lost to Ospreys 10-45.
C. Form - head to head:
23 Played 23
8 Wins 14
14 Losses 8
1 Draws 1
44 Tries 57
31 Conversions 41
59 Penalties 51
1 Drop Goals 1
462 Points 523
26 Avg. Age 26
D. Form - this season & last:
Sat 1 December 2012, 19:45
Munster Rugby 31 - 3 Glasgow Warriors
Thomond Park
Fri 29 March 2013, 20:05
Glasgow Warriors 51 - 24 Munster Rugby
Scotstoun
Fri 25 October 2013, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 6 - 13 Munster Rugby
Scotstoun
Sat 12 April 2014, 18:30
Munster Rugby 5 - 22 Glasgow Warriors
Thomond Park
Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby
Friday 16 May 2014, KO: 19:35
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
Live on BBC ALBA/TG4/SC4
Referee: Marius Mitrea (FIR, 29th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Giuseppe Vivarini, Stefano Penne (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Dennis Jones (WRU)
TMO: Carlo Damasco (FIR)
A. Teams:
I. Glasgow
15. Peter Murchie
14. Sean Maitland
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Finn Russell
9. Chris Cusiter
1. Ryan Grant
2. Dougie Hall
3. Jon Welsh
4. Jonny Gray
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Rob Harley
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Josh Strauss
16. Pat MacArthur
17. Gordon Reid
18. Geoff Cross
19. Tim Swinson
20. Leone Nakarawa
21. Niko Matawalu
22. Ruaridh Jackson
23. Sean Lamont
II. Munster
Felix Jones, Keith Earls, Casey Laulala, James Downey, Simon Zebo; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Damien Varley - Capt, BJ Botha; Dave Foley, Paul O'Connell; CJ Stander, Sean Dougall, James Coughlan.
Replacements: Quentin MacDonald, James Cronin, John Ryan, Donncha O'Callaghan, Paddy Butler, Duncan Williams, JJ Hanrahan, Andrew Conway.
B. Previous Championships
I. Glasgow
None
Playoff Record - Played 3, Lost 3:
2010 Swansea: lost to Ospreys 5-20
2012 RDS: lost to Leinster 15-19.
2013 RDS: lost to Leinster 15-17.
II. Munster
Three (2002-2003; 2008-2009; 2010-2011)
Playoff Record - Played 3, Won 1, Lost 2:
2010 RDS: lost to Leinster 6-16.
2011 Thomond Park: beat Ospreys 18-11.
2012 Swansea: lost to Ospreys 10-45.
C. Form - head to head:
23 Played 23
8 Wins 14
14 Losses 8
1 Draws 1
44 Tries 57
31 Conversions 41
59 Penalties 51
1 Drop Goals 1
462 Points 523
26 Avg. Age 26
D. Form - this season & last:
Sat 1 December 2012, 19:45
Munster Rugby 31 - 3 Glasgow Warriors
Thomond Park
Fri 29 March 2013, 20:05
Glasgow Warriors 51 - 24 Munster Rugby
Scotstoun
Fri 25 October 2013, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 6 - 13 Munster Rugby
Scotstoun
Sat 12 April 2014, 18:30
Munster Rugby 5 - 22 Glasgow Warriors
Thomond Park
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
ME-109 wrote:And another thing...I dont want to see or hear any of the players in the papers this week bleating on about how much they owe it to the supporters etc....just shut the f... up and get on the field and play for the jersey...otherwise feic off for the summer and let us enjoy the Hurling.
Eh I cant say Im particularly looking forward to the hurling either. Me thinks its a clear shooy out between Clare and KK (dont think Tipp will contest despite beating Clare in the semi).
Penney referred to 5/6 players playing well and the rest an embarrasment. D. Foley and POC were the only players I thought put in a fair shift. The back row was a joke. Varley needs to be dropped. How many wayward darts did he throw against Connacht and again on Sat. His has thrown way to many hospital passes as well.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Why don't you lads drop Murray and play Williams instead, Muff?
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
All these potential problems are quite worrying but more so is the fact that we are all discussing the venue for the final 4 days before playing Munster in the semi!
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
123456789 wrote:My main issue with Ibrox as if Glasgow were to be perceived as being in favour of one side or another it could have negative repercussions in the future with regards to fans and Glasgow can't really afford that.
Don't think that plays, as Parkhead isnt available this time, so it's not as if a choice is being made.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Just to add a little to the possible final venue debate.
Last year Ulster played our home semi final in the RDS rather than Aviva, because it was believed that there was not enough time to sell the tickets to fill it. Thats a 55000 seater stadium in Ireland with two Irish teams in the final who attract an average home crowd of over 10,000 each for league games.
Why would the SRU believe that Glasgow with an average crowd of 6000, and playing a team from another country have a better chance of filling a similar sized stadium with the same time to sell the tickets in?
It would look very bad to potential sponsors and investors if the final is played in a half empty stadium. Especially seeing as we are looking for a new league sponsor.
With the rules in post below (cant paste with smartphone), that pro 12 decides the final and union can nominate one to be considered, as long as its over 18000.
If a suitable stadium over 18000 that won't be half empty cannot be found in Scotland, would the Pro 12 decide to move it to the RDS or Ravenhill?
Last year Ulster played our home semi final in the RDS rather than Aviva, because it was believed that there was not enough time to sell the tickets to fill it. Thats a 55000 seater stadium in Ireland with two Irish teams in the final who attract an average home crowd of over 10,000 each for league games.
Why would the SRU believe that Glasgow with an average crowd of 6000, and playing a team from another country have a better chance of filling a similar sized stadium with the same time to sell the tickets in?
It would look very bad to potential sponsors and investors if the final is played in a half empty stadium. Especially seeing as we are looking for a new league sponsor.
With the rules in post below (cant paste with smartphone), that pro 12 decides the final and union can nominate one to be considered, as long as its over 18000.
If a suitable stadium over 18000 that won't be half empty cannot be found in Scotland, would the Pro 12 decide to move it to the RDS or Ravenhill?
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
RaboDirect PRO12 will determine the venue for the RaboDirect PRO12 Final however the Team that finished highest in the league stage competing in the Final will be able to propose a venue within its own Union's jurisdiction (which may include the team's own ground) to host the RaboDirect PRO12 Final, provided that the venue meets certain commercial criteria and has capacity for a minimum of 18,000 spectators.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I highly doubt that would ever be considered. The SRU would shift the match to Murrayfield before they allowed it to be shifted to Ravenhill.Kingshu wrote:If a suitable stadium over 18000 that won't be half empty cannot be found in Scotland, would the Pro 12 decide to move it to the RDS or Ravenhill?
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BlueMuff wrote:ME-109 wrote:And another thing...I dont want to see or hear any of the players in the papers this week bleating on about how much they owe it to the supporters etc....just shut the f... up and get on the field and play for the jersey...otherwise feic off for the summer and let us enjoy the Hurling.
Eh I cant say Im particularly looking forward to the hurling either. Me thinks its a clear shooy out between Clare and KK (dont think Tipp will contest despite beating Clare in the semi).
Penney referred to 5/6 players playing well and the rest an embarrasment. D. Foley and POC were the only players I thought put in a fair shift. The back row was a joke. Varley needs to be dropped. How many wayward darts did he throw against Connacht and again on Sat. His has thrown way to many hospital passes as well.
RE the hurling, just the way we like it in Cork...ignored as usual. Sure we will give it a lash again.
The whole lot of them were poor but Varley was extra poor. Foley was good. POC only seemed to wake up sometime in the second half.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Just playing devils advocate a bit ianbru. But since the rules are.
RaboDirect PRO12 will determine the venue for the RaboDirect PRO12 Final..... (Glasgow) will be able to propose a venue within its own Union's jurisdiction
So what would happen if the SRU proposed Murrayfield (or Ibrox) but the Pro 12 who determine the venue, decided that there is no chance it would be sold out in time for the game (same as Aviva last year with two home teams with more support). Would they reject the SRU proposal?
Afterall a half empty Ibrox or Murrayfield will look bad for potentional sponsors (and we need to attract a new one).
So if they reject the SRU's big stadium proposals, and a 18000 - 20000 stadium cannot be put forward by the SRU, would the Pro 12 who decide on the venue move it to Ravenhill as it is big enough and would be sold out?
After all its not the SRU who decide where its played, they can propose a venue, but what happens if its rejected?
RaboDirect PRO12 will determine the venue for the RaboDirect PRO12 Final..... (Glasgow) will be able to propose a venue within its own Union's jurisdiction
So what would happen if the SRU proposed Murrayfield (or Ibrox) but the Pro 12 who determine the venue, decided that there is no chance it would be sold out in time for the game (same as Aviva last year with two home teams with more support). Would they reject the SRU proposal?
Afterall a half empty Ibrox or Murrayfield will look bad for potentional sponsors (and we need to attract a new one).
So if they reject the SRU's big stadium proposals, and a 18000 - 20000 stadium cannot be put forward by the SRU, would the Pro 12 who decide on the venue move it to Ravenhill as it is big enough and would be sold out?
After all its not the SRU who decide where its played, they can propose a venue, but what happens if its rejected?
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I think 40 000 could be easily possible - thats the number who turned out at murrayfeild for Edinburgh / toulouse in the HC a couple of years go. Thats enough for either stadium
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I would be pretty angry if Rabo rejected a stadium based on their perception of how many people might attend. In whose estimation?Kingshu wrote:Just playing devils advocate a bit ianbru. But since the rules are.
RaboDirect PRO12 will determine the venue for the RaboDirect PRO12 Final..... (Glasgow) will be able to propose a venue within its own Union's jurisdiction
So what would happen if the SRU proposed Murrayfield (or Ibrox) but the Pro 12 who determine the venue, decided that there is no chance it would be sold out in time for the game (same as Aviva last year with two home teams with more support). Would they reject the SRU proposal?
Afterall a half empty Ibrox or Murrayfield will look bad for potentional sponsors (and we need to attract a new one).
So if they reject the SRU's big stadium proposals, and a 18000 - 20000 stadium cannot be put forward by the SRU, would the Pro 12 who decide on the venue move it to Ravenhill as it is big enough and would be sold out?
After all its not the SRU who decide where its played, they can propose a venue, but what happens if its rejected?
We are talking about a Rabo final, not (no disrespect to the game referred to above, which was massive) a HC semi. If Glasgow get it (and that's a big IF at the moment), then I fully expect all Scottish clubs to send players and kids. It will be a very, very big deal and I am confident that we'd get 40,000 in at least from rugby players and fans, to say nothing of wendyball waverers who might just be interested in all the hype.
There is also the rather major point that Kilmarnock is really not Glasgow. It's not even in Greater Glasgow. It's Glasgow in the sense that Loughrea or Clonmel are 'Limerick'.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Murrayfield is having the pitch relaid so is out of the question
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
demosthenes wrote:123456789 wrote:My main issue with Ibrox as if Glasgow were to be perceived as being in favour of one side or another it could have negative repercussions in the future with regards to fans and Glasgow can't really afford that.
Don't think that plays, as Parkhead isnt available this time, so it's not as if a choice is being made.
Yeah and that goes back to what I was saying yesterday. If people don't want to come to watch Glasgow in the future, because they played a game at Ibrox, when no other ground in the City was available, then they really are not the kind of people that I want coming to see Glasgow.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Kingshu wrote:RaboDirect PRO12 will determine the venue for the RaboDirect PRO12 Final however the Team that finished highest in the league stage competing in the Final will be able to propose a venue within its own Union's jurisdiction (which may include the team's own ground) to host the RaboDirect PRO12 Final, provided that the venue meets certain commercial criteria and has capacity for a minimum of 18,000 spectators.
So you can't play the game in a bigger ground, that nobody knows for sure that you have can't get a good crowd in for. But you can't also play on your own home "smaller" ground, that you can fill.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Why don't you lads drop Murray and play Williams instead, Muff?
Not sure what point your trying to make here but Williams did start. He was terrible. Murray wasnt dropped mind you he was rested. Not sure why you would ever drop one of your best performers all season.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Murrayfield is having the pitch relaid so is out of the question
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
Not only are you ignoring Munster but you're assuming Ulster will beat Leinster.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Mickado wrote:AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Murrayfield is having the pitch relaid so is out of the question
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
Not only are you ignoring Munster but you're assuming Ulster will beat Leinster.
No, thats a given, Mick!!
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Given how little media coverage rugby gets in Scotland, most football fans probably won't even know the game is on!
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Mickado wrote:AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Murrayfield is having the pitch relaid so is out of the question
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
Not only are you ignoring Munster but you're assuming Ulster will beat Leinster.
Maybe he is Neil Francis in disguise...
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Mickado wrote:AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Murrayfield is having the pitch relaid so is out of the question
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
Not only are you ignoring Munster but you're assuming Ulster will beat Leinster.
Well, to be fair if they don't there will be no Glasgow final so it'll all be a moot point. If there is a final in Glasgow this year, Ulster are the only possible opponents! You'll be hosting them in the RDS if it goes the way of the home sides.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Considering the final being on the West coast is A) dependent on Glasgow beating Munster and B) Leinster losing, I don't know why people are talking about it.
What's the backline going to look like? So much competition across the board;
Hogg (Murchie is in fine form but Hoggy is class above and in form)
Maitland? (probably the best winger but both Niko & Seymour have scored more tries recently)
Bennett? (beginning to find his feet but Dunbar played well last time out and is a better defender)
Horne? (looked good since his return but again Dunbar has been doing well at 12 this season)
Seymour? (or Niko, that's a seriously tough decision)
Russell? (inexperienced but in great form, Weir played well last week but Townsend does like Jackson)
Cusiter (surely has to start, but Niko may need to shoe-horned in)
What's the backline going to look like? So much competition across the board;
Hogg (Murchie is in fine form but Hoggy is class above and in form)
Maitland? (probably the best winger but both Niko & Seymour have scored more tries recently)
Bennett? (beginning to find his feet but Dunbar played well last time out and is a better defender)
Horne? (looked good since his return but again Dunbar has been doing well at 12 this season)
Seymour? (or Niko, that's a seriously tough decision)
Russell? (inexperienced but in great form, Weir played well last week but Townsend does like Jackson)
Cusiter (surely has to start, but Niko may need to shoe-horned in)
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Pour moi:
1. Grant
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Gray
5. Nakarawa
6. Harley
7. Fusaro
8. Strauss
9. Cusiter
10. Russell
11. Seymour
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett
14. Maitland
15. Hogg
16. MacArthur
17. Reid
18. Cross
19. Swinson
20. Eddie
21. Matawalu
22. Jackson
23. Murchie
Non, je ne regrette rien.
1. Grant
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Gray
5. Nakarawa
6. Harley
7. Fusaro
8. Strauss
9. Cusiter
10. Russell
11. Seymour
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett
14. Maitland
15. Hogg
16. MacArthur
17. Reid
18. Cross
19. Swinson
20. Eddie
21. Matawalu
22. Jackson
23. Murchie
Non, je ne regrette rien.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Notch wrote:Mickado wrote:AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Murrayfield is having the pitch relaid so is out of the question
Anyhew, all this chat of potential venues is premature - the challenge of Munster is ignored at our peril
Not only are you ignoring Munster but you're assuming Ulster will beat Leinster.
Well, to be fair if they don't there will be no Glasgow final so it'll all be a moot point. If there is a final in Glasgow this year, Ulster are the only possible opponents! You'll be hosting them in the RDS if it goes the way of the home sides.
I know, that's my point. Talk of Glasgow hosting a final is dependent on not only Glasgow beating Munster, but Ulster beating Leinster.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
1. Grant
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Gray
5. Swinson
6. Harley
7. Fusaro
8. Strauss (capt)
9. Cusiter
10. Russell
11. Seymour
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett
14. Maitland
15. Hogg
16. MacArthur
17. Reid
18. Low
19. Nakarawa
20. Holmes
21. Matawalu
22. Horne
23. Lamont
Tough calls re Capty Kellock, Murchie, Weir, Jacko and Jedi
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Gray
5. Swinson
6. Harley
7. Fusaro
8. Strauss (capt)
9. Cusiter
10. Russell
11. Seymour
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett
14. Maitland
15. Hogg
16. MacArthur
17. Reid
18. Low
19. Nakarawa
20. Holmes
21. Matawalu
22. Horne
23. Lamont
Tough calls re Capty Kellock, Murchie, Weir, Jacko and Jedi
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
SOS! Just been dumped at Scotstoun in the middle of the night by I think Alan Solomons muttering "this'll take the gloss off Gregor Townsend's masterpiece, have a bit of bokke dirty tactics". Couldn't get a signal earlier, was in some warehouse.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I'd go for
Grant, MacArthur, Welsh, Gray, Swinson, Harley, Fusaro, Strauss, Cusiter, Russell, Seymour, Dunbar, Bennett, Maitland, Hogg - Reid, Hall, Low, Nakarawa, Eddie, Matawalu, Weir, Lamont
You've then got Nakarawa and Matawalu to dislodge a stalemate, Weir for some accurate kicking if required. Also experience in Lamont.
Grant, MacArthur, Welsh, Gray, Swinson, Harley, Fusaro, Strauss, Cusiter, Russell, Seymour, Dunbar, Bennett, Maitland, Hogg - Reid, Hall, Low, Nakarawa, Eddie, Matawalu, Weir, Lamont
You've then got Nakarawa and Matawalu to dislodge a stalemate, Weir for some accurate kicking if required. Also experience in Lamont.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Well on the topic of Ibrox, after 2 days of waiting in an online queue I have finally managed to get tickets to the final of the Commonwealth games 7s!
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:1. Grant
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Gray
5. Swinson
6. Harley
7. Fusaro
8. Strauss (capt)
9. Cusiter
10. Russell
11. Seymour
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett
14. Maitland
15. Hogg
16. MacArthur
17. Reid
18. Low
19. Nakarawa
20. Holmes
21. Matawalu
22. Horne
23. Lamont
Tough calls re Capty Kellock, Murchie, Weir, Jacko and Jedi
Switch around Dunbar and Horne and I'd agree with that entirely. Only query is whether Cross is fit, as he'd probably get in ahead of Moray Low for me.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
1 - Grant
2 - MacArthur
3 - Welsh
4 - Swinson
5 - Gray
6 - Harley
7 - Fusaro
8 - Strauss
9 - Cusiter
10 - Russell
11 - Seymour
12 - Dunbar
13 - Bennett
14 - Maitland
15 - Hogg
16 - Hall, 17 - Reid, 18 - Cross, 19 - Kellock, 20 - Nakarawa, 21 - Matawalu, 22 - Weir, 23 - Horne
(Niko covers 9/11, Horne 12/13, Maitland 14/15, Weir in reserve in case Russell wobbles)
19/23 are Scots, great to see
2 - MacArthur
3 - Welsh
4 - Swinson
5 - Gray
6 - Harley
7 - Fusaro
8 - Strauss
9 - Cusiter
10 - Russell
11 - Seymour
12 - Dunbar
13 - Bennett
14 - Maitland
15 - Hogg
16 - Hall, 17 - Reid, 18 - Cross, 19 - Kellock, 20 - Nakarawa, 21 - Matawalu, 22 - Weir, 23 - Horne
(Niko covers 9/11, Horne 12/13, Maitland 14/15, Weir in reserve in case Russell wobbles)
19/23 are Scots, great to see
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
reallybored wrote:1 - Grant
2 - MacArthur
3 - Welsh
4 - Swinson
5 - Gray
6 - Harley
7 - Fusaro
8 - Strauss
9 - Cusiter
10 - Russell
11 - Seymour
12 - Dunbar
13 - Bennett
14 - Maitland
15 - Hogg
16 - Hall, 17 - Reid, 18 - Cross, 19 - Kellock, 20 - Nakarawa, 21 - Matawalu, 22 - Weir, 23 - Horne
(Niko covers 9/11, Horne 12/13, Maitland 14/15, Weir in reserve in case Russell wobbles)
19/23 are Scots, great to see
Is it not 20/23 are Scots?
I reckon we might see 6/2 split on the bench. Weir to cover 10/12 (Russell going to 12, if required) and Niko covering the rest.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Yep, it's just Strauss and the two Fijians who don't presently qualify.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Weir on the bench? What fresh hell is this? No, no, no to the Dunky Meatball.
He is not an impact substitute. If we get behind, we're going to need to start breaking the line and Weir has done that about six times in his entire career, mostly accidentally.
He is not an impact substitute. If we get behind, we're going to need to start breaking the line and Weir has done that about six times in his entire career, mostly accidentally.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Referee: Marius Mitrea (FIR, 29th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Giuseppe Vivarini, Stefano Penne (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Dennis Jones (WRU)
TMO: Carlo Damasco (FIR)
It's also being shown on S4C
Assistant Referees: Giuseppe Vivarini, Stefano Penne (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Dennis Jones (WRU)
TMO: Carlo Damasco (FIR)
It's also being shown on S4C
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:reallybored wrote:1 - Grant
2 - MacArthur
3 - Welsh
4 - Swinson
5 - Gray
6 - Harley
7 - Fusaro
8 - Strauss
9 - Cusiter
10 - Russell
11 - Seymour
12 - Dunbar
13 - Bennett
14 - Maitland
15 - Hogg
16 - Hall, 17 - Reid, 18 - Cross, 19 - Kellock, 20 - Nakarawa, 21 - Matawalu, 22 - Weir, 23 - Horne
(Niko covers 9/11, Horne 12/13, Maitland 14/15, Weir in reserve in case Russell wobbles)
19/23 are Scots, great to see
Is it not 20/23 are Scots?
I reckon we might see 6/2 split on the bench. Weir to cover 10/12 (Russell going to 12, if required) and Niko covering the rest.
Toonie has gone for the 6/2 split a fair few times in the run-in, hasn't he, Dot? Does he also have a preference for a second 5/8th type player in the 12 shirt too?
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I think that 6/2 would be a mistake. The forward pack he is likely to choose will have played together so often that it should be a well oiled machine. Surely we aren't going to need a spare front row, lock, loosie and someone else? I think that an injury to the backline is far more likely and we need specialists there. Have the rumours about Niki dislocating a thumb now officially Gone Away?AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:reallybored wrote:1 - Grant
2 - MacArthur
3 - Welsh
4 - Swinson
5 - Gray
6 - Harley
7 - Fusaro
8 - Strauss
9 - Cusiter
10 - Russell
11 - Seymour
12 - Dunbar
13 - Bennett
14 - Maitland
15 - Hogg
16 - Hall, 17 - Reid, 18 - Cross, 19 - Kellock, 20 - Nakarawa, 21 - Matawalu, 22 - Weir, 23 - Horne
(Niko covers 9/11, Horne 12/13, Maitland 14/15, Weir in reserve in case Russell wobbles)
19/23 are Scots, great to see
Is it not 20/23 are Scots?
I reckon we might see 6/2 split on the bench. Weir to cover 10/12 (Russell going to 12, if required) and Niko covering the rest.
Toonie has gone for the 6/2 split a fair few times in the run-in, hasn't he, Dot? Does he also have a preference for a second 5/8th type player in the 12 shirt too?
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Niko dislocated his thumb in the 1st 40 on Saturday - re-located it and played on !
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
jimbopip wrote:Mr Bru, perhaps a small refreshment may be in order.My team;
15. Hogg
11. Maitland
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett (Horne impact sub)
14. Seymour
10. Russell (Jacko on bench)
9. Cooseater (Niko for impact)
8. Wilson
7. Fozzie
6. Bluto (Harley)
5. Gray
4. Swinson (Naka impact sub)
3. Angela
2. WeePee
1. Grant
Shrek, Hall, Cross as subs
Of cousre Toonie has had the team for this game filed for some time now. It's only us amateurs who are still guessing.
Gentlemen, I stand by this team(wildly inaccurate guess based on nothing other than the way the wind was blowing that day) and can't help but noticing that we are all pretty much agreed on the side except for 2, 8, and 10.
So, 10 first; Wee Dunky either starts or nothing. He is not the impact sub to bring on if we are chasing the game. Either Jacko or Hornee can do that better. I think Toonie will go with Russell/ Jacko although which will start is anyone's guess as both are in excellent form.
Now, 8: is the kebab boy injured? If not he is our best 8 and should start. If injured; 6.Harley 7. Fozzie 8. Bluto, Naka on the bench to cover. This allows Cap'n Kellock to be in the squad as second row cover.
Hooker; Weepee was outstanding against Zebre. at times I couldn't tell him and Fozzie apart he was so involved at the breakdowns. Yes Hall is , slightly bigger and stronger. So let him come on against a tiring Munster scrum.
Toonie has been quoted as saying he could pick any of 30-35 players. How many combinations are roiling around in his head?
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
jimbopip wrote:
Gentlemen, I stand by this team(wildly inaccurate guess based on nothing other than the way the wind was blowing that day) and can't help but noticing that we are all pretty much agreed on the side except for 2, 8, and 10.
So, 10 first; Wee Dunky either starts or nothing. He is not the impact sub to bring on if we are chasing the game. Either Jacko or Hornee can do that better. I think Toonie will go with Russell/ Jacko although which will start is anyone's guess as both are in excellent form.
Now, 8: is the kebab boy injured? If not he is our best 8 and should start. If injured; 6.Harley 7. Fozzie 8. Bluto, Naka on the bench to cover. This allows Cap'n Kellock to be in the squad as second row cover.
Hooker; Weepee was outstanding against Zebre. at times I couldn't tell him and Fozzie apart he was so involved at the breakdowns. Yes Hall is , slightly bigger and stronger. So let him come on against a tiring Munster scrum.
Toonie has been quoted as saying he could pick any of 30-35 players. How many combinations are roiling around in his head?
Sorry, J-pip, gonnae have to agree to differ.
10. young Russell for me offers the perfect mix of Rhubarb and Meatball - control and attacking prowess; plus, he is a front-line kicker. Jacko isn't a front-line kicker and may not be yer ideal sub or man for a knock-out/tense derby-type game where his confidence might be easily blown; Meatball is Mr Control, altho he may not set the backline on fire, and you wouldn't want to bring him on to chase a game necessarily. Hornee furraa is lesser than those three as a first 5/8th, but more as a second
8. Strauss is yer man, it is the beard that knows no equals despite all the pathetic copy-cat efforts. If you want hard yards made off slow ruck ball or set-piece work thru the midfield, there can be no other port of call. Kebab Boy is distant second
2. I don't think that we can read too much into the Zebre match tbh - the first 40 mins was played almost like unopposed, but at least the rain showed up in the second half to offer some opposition. Could go either way on this one
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Asbo, you have been too close to the paint thinners again? Open the windows in your hut.
I have Russell down to start and Jacko to replace him. Meatball is Mr Control, altho he may not set the backline on fire, and you wouldn't want to bring him on to chase a game necessarily So are you saying here you wouldn't want Meatball as a sub? Is that not what I said?
Yes Bluto is the man for hard yards but doesn't attack space and make quick yards the way Kebab Boy does (and Clare Baldwin has wet dreams about in Brotheltown)
When we won at Thomond earlier in the season we scored first and then soaked up everything they threw at us. I think Toonie will be confident that if we go ahead we will be able to defend that lead. So look for dynamic, fast , off- loading players to start the game. Weepee and Russell not Meatball or Hall.
Our quiet drink on Thursday may be slightly more animated than we anticipated.( Oh and wear your lime green high viz jacket- it matches your eyes.)
I have Russell down to start and Jacko to replace him. Meatball is Mr Control, altho he may not set the backline on fire, and you wouldn't want to bring him on to chase a game necessarily So are you saying here you wouldn't want Meatball as a sub? Is that not what I said?
Yes Bluto is the man for hard yards but doesn't attack space and make quick yards the way Kebab Boy does (and Clare Baldwin has wet dreams about in Brotheltown)
When we won at Thomond earlier in the season we scored first and then soaked up everything they threw at us. I think Toonie will be confident that if we go ahead we will be able to defend that lead. So look for dynamic, fast , off- loading players to start the game. Weepee and Russell not Meatball or Hall.
Our quiet drink on Thursday may be slightly more animated than we anticipated.( Oh and wear your lime green high viz jacket- it matches your eyes.)
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I also think that disrupting the Harley, Fozzy, Strauss partnership would also be a huge mistake.
Three specialists in specialist positions and they complement each other beautifully. In particular, you absolutely cannot overlook the amount of defensive work around the fringes that Harley does - he is an absolute machine and we need to stop Munster before we can beat them. Wilson may make some fancy dan carries and have an inexplicably fluffy haircut but those things in themselves cannot give him a starting berth. We need Harley, Bluto and Fozzy in their established combination and hopefully that is whom G. Townsend OBE will pick.
Add two doses of Fijian mentalness in Niko the Hitchhiker and Naka Flagball and you have a bench ready to win the game in the last 20.
Three specialists in specialist positions and they complement each other beautifully. In particular, you absolutely cannot overlook the amount of defensive work around the fringes that Harley does - he is an absolute machine and we need to stop Munster before we can beat them. Wilson may make some fancy dan carries and have an inexplicably fluffy haircut but those things in themselves cannot give him a starting berth. We need Harley, Bluto and Fozzy in their established combination and hopefully that is whom G. Townsend OBE will pick.
Add two doses of Fijian mentalness in Niko the Hitchhiker and Naka Flagball and you have a bench ready to win the game in the last 20.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Anyone know what the Scotstoun capacity is for this? Sorry but lost count with where they are with temporary stands atm.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
10,000 Mr Sinner.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Thanks GC, and I'll be one of them.
justified sinner- Posts : 1042
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
After the 22-5 drubbing in Thomond park a few weeks back Glasgow would be expecting an easy win...
ME-109- Posts : 5258
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
No such thing as an easy win ME, certainly not in a semi. I expect your boys to be breathing fire and chewing broken glass.
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
after last weekend more likely the constabulary of Glasgow will be arresting them for impersonating rugby players...
ME-109- Posts : 5258
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
I watched the Munster - Ulster highlights - they didn't look that bad! There was more to cheer about for the fans than most Edinburgh games anyway!
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
You think!!! I started supporting the young fellas from Ulster from the start of the second half...
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Suppose that's the things about highlights - they only show the good bits so can be very misleading!
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Re: RP12 Semi-Final 1; Glasgow vs Munster, 16 May
Glasgow lads is this correct?
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/rabodirect-pro12-final-will-be-at-ravenhill-if-ulster-make-it-1.1793582
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/rabodirect-pro12-final-will-be-at-ravenhill-if-ulster-make-it-1.1793582
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