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Season 6 Homepage V
First topic message reminder :
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Leicester Tigers | 22 | 16 | 0 | 6 | 565 | 510 | 55 | 58 | 43 | 3 | 6 | 73 | |
2 | London Wasps # | 22 | 17 | 0 | 5 | 560 | 505 | 55 | 56 | 43 | 2 | 5 | 72 | |
3 | Sale Sharks # | 22 | 13 | 3 | 6 | 568 | 528 | 40 | 59 | 45 | 4 | 6 | 66 | |
4 | Gloucester | 22 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 565 | 522 | 43 | 56 | 48 | 4 | 8 | 65 | |
5 | Harlequins # | 22 | 12 | 2 | 8 | 578 | 547 | 31 | 60 | 51 | 6 | 8 | 64 | |
6 | Northampton Saints # | 22 | 12 | 1 | 9 | 545 | 546 | -1 | 51 | 51 | 2 | 8 | 59 | |
7 | Newcastle Falcons | 22 | 9 | 3 | 10 | 529 | 533 | -4 | 48 | 47 | 0 | 10 | 52 | |
8 | Saracens | 22 | 8 | 1 | 13 | 474 | 504 | -30 | 36 | 45 | 1 | 12 | 47 | |
9 | Exeter Chiefs | 22 | 6 | 2 | 14 | 497 | 532 | -35 | 37 | 49 | 0 | 13 | 41 | |
10 | London Irish # | 22 | 6 | 1 | 15 | 526 | 543 | -17 | 49 | 53 | 1 | 15 | 40 | |
11 | Bath Rugby # | 22 | 7 | 1 | 14 | 523 | 584 | -61 | 49 | 61 | 2 | 11 | 39 | |
12 | Worcester Warriors # | 22 | 4 | 3 | 15 | 493 | 565 | -72 | 36 | 51 | 0 | 15 | 34 |
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Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Structured Window
No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.
Open Window
Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Koster has signed for Bristol.
To be fair if any team had the backing Bristol has then they would all do the same. Look at Lyon in pro d2
To be fair if any team had the backing Bristol has then they would all do the same. Look at Lyon in pro d2
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Money doesn't buy success though clearly. Aren't they moving to Ashton Gate too? Made my day Bristol not going up.
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Toulon would beg to differ Pooly. Of course money buys success.
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Doesn't always but success that should read. Robinson not a happy boy!
I can't stand Bristol or Robinson so this is a good night!
I can't stand Bristol or Robinson so this is a good night!
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Yes Bristol are moving to Ashton gate as they are both owned by the same person.
I think your gloating more about this than I did after wales vs England in 2013!
I think your gloating more about this than I did after wales vs England in 2013!
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Yes Bristol are moving to Ashton gate as they are both owned by the same person.
I think your gloating more about this than I did after wales vs England in 2013!
What time can we start bidding tomorrow?
I think your gloating more about this than I did after wales vs England in 2013!
What time can we start bidding tomorrow?
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Window doesn't open till Monday Prop
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Haha....I just don't like them Prop and Robinson is a weasel.
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My mistake, I got a bit excited!!
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Burns!! Literally no sense in that decision. Absolutely baffled.:
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The midfield is one i have mentioned on number of occasions that i'd like to see us try out. Not surprised by the pack, it actually has some welly to it.
I suppose Burns might get to play behind a pack with some decent go forward for once!
I suppose Burns might get to play behind a pack with some decent go forward for once!
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'm sure a few won't sign but to be fair they'll need them with Worcester looking strong.
Bristol don't look a good side without their ringers, it could be a tough season.
Just back from
The game. Bristol had none of their " Ringers" playing as
Most of
Them join next year.they actually had a huge amount of injuries in key positions eg Sorensen jones rennie
Tip una is absolute garbage and if all fit
Would be 3/4 th choice.
Unfortunately Baldwin
Is injured and Grindal just coming back and whilst on bench was not fit to come on. Also Braley away.
Tip una on a dry day is a useful player but in the wet is a joke. Likewise this week in the build up before
The match I said to my mate who is Bristol backs coach that Robinson would lose them the
Match.
All year Bristol have refused goal kicks due to Sean Holley and today tried
Them with Robinson who is gash at them.
At glos I hated him
In close games and said to Chris when he joined wasps he will lose you more than you win.
Welsh well
Drilled and great at breakdown. A few have been signed by ap clubs and will do well.
A big bust up after in the players bar between a few Bristol lads which was ugly.
If players like lam do not want to come they will rip up the contracts.
There are no clauses for not being promoted but Bristol don't
Want players who don't want to join.
Best atmosphere at a club match I have been to for years
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Money doesn't buy success though clearly. Aren't they moving to Ashton Gate too? Made my day Bristol not going up.
Ashton gate temporary. Lands down owns both team and is a billionaire. Richest owner in rugby in uk.
In Bristol rugby is north of the city and football South. It
Is for 2 years
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Welsh has loan players from prem are they "ringers "
Weird logic from some on here
Weird logic from some on here
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Finally can't see how people have care above Aaron
Smith ????
Care having some great form but smith is proper world class and has
Pedigree.
Care needs more
Than a 6n to prove it for me despite me being a huge fan and thinking he is brilliant.
Murray and Care hard to split for me but Smith another level
Smith ????
Care having some great form but smith is proper world class and has
Pedigree.
Care needs more
Than a 6n to prove it for me despite me being a huge fan and thinking he is brilliant.
Murray and Care hard to split for me but Smith another level
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How has Atwood not been selected ?? Lancaster says he is loyal and hence burns starting yet despite Attwood being a star from
The bench the minute we are missing laws he drafts in parking who
Has zero form
The bench the minute we are missing laws he drafts in parking who
Has zero form
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Despite
The mad professor Meyer picking a weird side based on zero form for the Wales game it's good to see he has picked Hendricks on the wing.
Has a bright future.
Does anyone have him on here ?? I thought about him as academy a year or 2 ago.
JDP, Bakkies, Matfield, louw all lack form, too old or
In case of JDP have issues with pens as
Most penalised player in s15.
Likewise steyn at 12
Is not fit and there is no bench cover at centre. Also
All
Bok fans hate pienaar at 9 a tad unfairly in my opinion but he is slow
To move ball
This guy on zeo.za sums it up
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I know I gave my support to HM earlier in the week, but this is probably the worst selection he has made in his entire tenure at the Boks... I am completely befuddled.
Firstly, WHY ON EARTH pick a lame JP Pietersen at 13 when you have an in-form, experienced Juan de Jongh in the squad - who will be playing on his home ground? Especially since the guys next to JP are of the same mold... Just inexplicable.
Secondly, Morne Steyn and Ruan Pienaar !? MORNE STEYN AND RUAN PIENAAR !!?? I don't have words other than that...
And then you have a bunch of oafs in the forwards - hardly any dynamism."
This team looks heavy and one-dimensional. VERY different from the team I would have picked against this World XV squad...
Not happy.
The mad professor Meyer picking a weird side based on zero form for the Wales game it's good to see he has picked Hendricks on the wing.
Has a bright future.
Does anyone have him on here ?? I thought about him as academy a year or 2 ago.
JDP, Bakkies, Matfield, louw all lack form, too old or
In case of JDP have issues with pens as
Most penalised player in s15.
Likewise steyn at 12
Is not fit and there is no bench cover at centre. Also
All
Bok fans hate pienaar at 9 a tad unfairly in my opinion but he is slow
To move ball
This guy on zeo.za sums it up
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I know I gave my support to HM earlier in the week, but this is probably the worst selection he has made in his entire tenure at the Boks... I am completely befuddled.
Firstly, WHY ON EARTH pick a lame JP Pietersen at 13 when you have an in-form, experienced Juan de Jongh in the squad - who will be playing on his home ground? Especially since the guys next to JP are of the same mold... Just inexplicable.
Secondly, Morne Steyn and Ruan Pienaar !? MORNE STEYN AND RUAN PIENAAR !!?? I don't have words other than that...
And then you have a bunch of oafs in the forwards - hardly any dynamism."
This team looks heavy and one-dimensional. VERY different from the team I would have picked against this World XV squad...
Not happy.
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Want a snickers Matt...?
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Wow. Bristol absolutely blew that last night. Had Robinson nailed his kicks they had all the momentum and at one point would have edged their noses in front on aggregate. Absolute shocker.
Unbelievable selection from Lancaster as well. Haskell is the right call at 6, and there was very little choice about Eastmond at 12 as he is effectively last man standing, but Parling and Burns!!! Really??? Zero form and better alternatives in the squad out there. Absolutely baffling.
Unbelievable selection from Lancaster as well. Haskell is the right call at 6, and there was very little choice about Eastmond at 12 as he is effectively last man standing, but Parling and Burns!!! Really??? Zero form and better alternatives in the squad out there. Absolutely baffling.
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I can only imagine Cipriani has not impressed in training?? I wouldn't go Burns.
Matt, I think you need to calm down a little.
Matt, I think you need to calm down a little.
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Ozzy3213 wrote:Wow. Bristol absolutely blew that last night. Had Robinson nailed his kicks they had all the momentum and at one point would have edged their noses in front on aggregate. Absolute shocker.
Unbelievable selection from Lancaster as well. Haskell is the right call at 6, and there was very little choice about Eastmond at 12 as he is effectively last man standing, but Parling and Burns!!! Really??? Zero form and better alternatives in the squad out there. Absolutely baffling.
100% agree.
The burns selection is due to
Lancaster loyalty then he turns it on his head and is disloyal to Attwood. Very strange
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What's the score with getting squads in order on here. Do we have to have released players and be under the 40 limit before getting in foreign targets?
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I think there is a cut off date but is not before transfers. I am releasing some good lads to be fair
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That's kind of why I was asking, as want to see who is released really before spanking a load of cash on a foreign.
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Would be a good idea to release first.
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Squads should be in order before the foreigns open. Bids will be rejected if over numbers. Would appreciate people putting ages on their academy players please!
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Good stuff SJE.
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Think my squad is all up to date now Looking for academy aged 2nd rows if anyone has someone available.
Also could possibly let Max Evans/Bjorn Basson go for cash
Also could possibly let Max Evans/Bjorn Basson go for cash
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Peel and Penerise are rumoured to be available on loan from Bristol
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Care is injured apparently for the first test, now I am apprehensive of our chances
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Peel and Penerise are rumoured to be available on loan from Bristol
That's confirmed pooly. Peel loan to be confirmed before weekend.
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It's really not a good way to build a squad, you can see why they fail in the play offs
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Peel a great loan signing for any side. I reckon he could to to Bath.
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I heard he's going to Welsh.
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I'd love him back at Sale. Him and Cusiter would be a great set of options.
I heard Welsh as well. Welsh will this time have the proper time to make the signings.
I heard Welsh as well. Welsh will this time have the proper time to make the signings.
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Rodney Ah You takes over from Chiliboy Ralapelle as my new favourite name in rugby.
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Vaughan Going always has my heart in favourite rugby player names.
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Steven_Sharks wrote:Vaughan Going always has my heart in favourite rugby player names.
Was he any relative of Sid going the legendary nz player??
I quite liked the French flanker Jean Condom. Rhino Benjamin is a good name also
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Care out Youngs in.
Big blow.
Big blow.
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Steven_Sharks wrote:Care out Youngs in.
Big blow.
Huge another player out of form playing. Youngs should not even be in the squad based on performance over last couple of seasons
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Who else would you have in?
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U20s went well. Itoje looks some prospect was everywhere
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Care out is a big blow as Burns will have spent limited time with Youngs.
Matt you've been saying Youngs is out of form for about 4 years now. He's not not out of form, he finished the season really strongly. He may not have hit the levels of when he burst on the scene but he hasn't been out of form for that period.
Youngs has had his ups and downs but is a match winner on his day. Dickson has just arrived in NZ so it's Youngs or nobody.
Matt you've been saying Youngs is out of form for about 4 years now. He's not not out of form, he finished the season really strongly. He may not have hit the levels of when he burst on the scene but he hasn't been out of form for that period.
Youngs has had his ups and downs but is a match winner on his day. Dickson has just arrived in NZ so it's Youngs or nobody.
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SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:U20s went well. Itoje looks some prospect was everywhere
Caught the second half, we looked strong again. Taylor & Earle for me looked good, Moriarty impressive again. 5 tries in 2 games for Earles!
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Is anyone else have problems watching the games on the irb website?
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Apparently a federale 1 side are reporting to have signed jvn and russouw. Reported in midi olympique. Guess it could be a foray into coaching?
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Care out is a big blow as Burns will have spent limited time with Youngs.
Matt you've been saying Youngs is out of form for about 4 years now. He's not not out of form, he finished the season really strongly. He may not have hit the levels of when he burst on the scene but he hasn't been out of form for that period.
Youngs has had his ups and downs but is a match winner on his day. Dickson has just arrived in NZ so it's Youngs or nobody.
He has been average for about 4 years. I think the reason he has never progressed is that he is so stupid. Need to have a brain to play scrum half. Both youngs brothers are famed for how dim they are.
Great try by NZ. Tevita lee is one of my targets
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U20s went well. Burns kicked excellently and itoje was everywhere. Earle is raw but very exciting. The 13 went well as did moriarty who will get game time for glos next year
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anonmattyt wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:Care out is a big blow as Burns will have spent limited time with Youngs.
Matt you've been saying Youngs is out of form for about 4 years now. He's not not out of form, he finished the season really strongly. He may not have hit the levels of when he burst on the scene but he hasn't been out of form for that period.
Youngs has had his ups and downs but is a match winner on his day. Dickson has just arrived in NZ so it's Youngs or nobody.
He has been average for about 4 years. I think the reason he has never progressed is that he is so stupid. Need to have a brain to play scrum half. Both youngs brothers are famed for how dim they are.
Great try by NZ. Tevita lee is one of my targets
He hasn't been average for 4 years, you can't blanket form like that. He was motm and outstanding in the SA tour 2 years ago. He's been excellent in games this year.
Yes he has daft moments but when he's playing well (he is playing well) he's clearly our 2nd best scrum half imo.
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