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Niko steals Hoggs try
by clivemcl Wed May 14, 2014 1:49 pm
Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere. I only just saw it and find it fascinating!
Did Niko not think Hogg would make it?
Did Niko just want to beat his team mate to the try?
Was it right of Hogg to warn his teammate off it?
Was it right for Hogg to be annoyed.
I honestly can't make my mind up on this.
My guy instinct is that Niko wanted to prevent Hogg from scoring his hatrick. But I know nothing about the players or their relationship.
Its certainly an interesting incident!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfceIt-Fvs
Did Niko not think Hogg would make it?
Did Niko just want to beat his team mate to the try?
Was it right of Hogg to warn his teammate off it?
Was it right for Hogg to be annoyed.
I honestly can't make my mind up on this.
My guy instinct is that Niko wanted to prevent Hogg from scoring his hatrick. But I know nothing about the players or their relationship.
Its certainly an interesting incident!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfceIt-Fvs
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Majestic83 Wed May 14, 2014 2:15 pm
Don't see anything wrong with what Niko did. It's a team game so as long as the try was scored then it doesn't matter who it was.
Looking at the footage Niko is fully focussed on the ball so possibly doesn't even realise Hogg is going for it too.
Also in soaking wet conditions like that Niko possibly thought Hogg might not get to it before it went dead.
Don't have a problem at all with what Matawalu did....Hoggs reaction at the time wasn't the best but he and Niko have been pictured since making light off the incident.
As i said it is a team game so it doesn't matter who scores!
Looking at the footage Niko is fully focussed on the ball so possibly doesn't even realise Hogg is going for it too.
Also in soaking wet conditions like that Niko possibly thought Hogg might not get to it before it went dead.
Don't have a problem at all with what Matawalu did....Hoggs reaction at the time wasn't the best but he and Niko have been pictured since making light off the incident.
As i said it is a team game so it doesn't matter who scores!
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Wed May 14, 2014 3:13 pm
Hogg is turning into a bit of a hot head isn't he ?
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Dorothy_Mantooth Wed May 14, 2014 3:23 pm
munkian wrote:Hogg is turning into a bit of a hot head isn't he ?
If you go by what lots of people who have never met him are saying, then yes.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Wed May 14, 2014 3:26 pm
Was going by his behaviour in the Wales v Scotland match and now this.
I'm sure he's lovely to you though petal
I'm sure he's lovely to you though petal
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed May 14, 2014 3:31 pm
munkian wrote:Was going by his behaviour in the Wales v Scotland match and now this.
Yes, he is, isn't he - an act of stupidity in the heat of battle for which he was rightly red-carded, leading to an abject apology to Scottish fans, his team-mates and in person to Dan Biggar at the end of the match, etc. - complete hot-head
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Wed May 14, 2014 3:37 pm
Jebus, is a formal apology to Scotland in order ?*
*For daring to question Hogg's temperament, not for all the wins
*For daring to question Hogg's temperament, not for all the wins
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by No 7&1/2 Wed May 14, 2014 3:39 pm
You wouldn't say Hogg's the craziest of characters though would you?
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Wed May 14, 2014 3:42 pm
Ok, seriously, I'm out, I'll leave you to the Hogg circle jerk
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Dorothy_Mantooth Wed May 14, 2014 3:53 pm
munkian wrote:Was going by his behaviour in the Wales v Scotland match and now this.
I'm sure he's lovely to you though petal
Never met the guy.
Surely we are scrapping the barrel of story generation if we are making Niko "stealing" his try a story.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Submachine Wed May 14, 2014 4:40 pm
That was a serious frown alright. Gave Niko the frowning of his life. Will be hard for him to recover from that. Hogg needs to have a serious look at himself in the mirror and turn that frown upside down.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed May 14, 2014 5:08 pm
Submachine wrote:That was a serious frown alright. Gave Niko the frowning of his life. Will be hard for him to recover from that. Hogg needs to have a serious look at himself in the mirror and turn that frown upside down.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Ozzy3213 Wed May 14, 2014 5:21 pm
Move along people, nothing to see here.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Notch Wed May 14, 2014 5:51 pm
You don't want the mods to call in to Stuart Hogg to sort this out now do you?
Aye, thats what I thought!
Aye, thats what I thought!
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by doctor_grey Wed May 14, 2014 7:08 pm
funnySubmachine wrote: Hogg needs to have a serious look at himself in the mirror and turn that frown upside down.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by clivemcl Wed May 14, 2014 7:09 pm
Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:munkian wrote:Was going by his behaviour in the Wales v Scotland match and now this.
I'm sure he's lovely to you though petal
Never met the guy.
Surely we are scrapping the barrel of story generation if we are making Niko "stealing" his try a story.
Dorothy, I don't think we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. You can't deny its an interesting scenario. Rabo pro12 site produceed the video and Rugbydump.com featured it.
I guess some of us find it odd to see a professional player seemingly shouting "leave it, its mine" like he's in a primary school playground.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by 21st Century Schizoid Man Wed May 14, 2014 7:11 pm
This whole thing has been done to death elsewhere ffs ! Very, very boring .
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by clivemcl Wed May 14, 2014 7:32 pm
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:This whole thing has been done to death elsewhere ffs ! Very, very boring .
Well... I didn't see where else it had been discussed... but you know what I read boring stuff all the time - I do this really weird thing where I leave the thread and look for something more interesting...
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Golden Wed May 14, 2014 7:41 pm
To be fair he was going for the hatrick wasnt he?
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by doctor_grey Wed May 14, 2014 10:03 pm
Based upon the video, I think they both knew exactly what they were doing.
Unacceptable for a player to 'call off' another player whilst going for a score. What happens if the player trips or falls?
Unacceptable for a player to compete with a teammate for a touchdown like that, which is clearly what Niko did.
Two peas in a pod.
Unacceptable for a player to 'call off' another player whilst going for a score. What happens if the player trips or falls?
Unacceptable for a player to compete with a teammate for a touchdown like that, which is clearly what Niko did.
Two peas in a pod.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Guest Wed May 14, 2014 11:01 pm
Unfortunately in the heat of the game looks a little bit like oneupmanship (wants a hatrick/hatrick prevention) and they're both a little to blame.
If I were Niko bearing in mind this is try 6 to 0 on the scoreboard with home playoff won by now, I'd have gone for it and pulled out at the last second once Hogg was clearly right on it too - it's a nice team spirit thing to do given the scenario.
And if I were Hogg I'd be a little disappointed but whatever, still scored play on and in future wouldn't feel like giving Mata a hattrick either!
Perhaps Mata was a little aggrieved Hogg didn't pass for his first try - and often doesn't
If I were Niko bearing in mind this is try 6 to 0 on the scoreboard with home playoff won by now, I'd have gone for it and pulled out at the last second once Hogg was clearly right on it too - it's a nice team spirit thing to do given the scenario.
And if I were Hogg I'd be a little disappointed but whatever, still scored play on and in future wouldn't feel like giving Mata a hattrick either!
Perhaps Mata was a little aggrieved Hogg didn't pass for his first try - and often doesn't
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Thu May 15, 2014 3:16 pm
They dropped Hogg ? BURN THEM !!!*
*I bet he took it well...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/27423942
*I bet he took it well...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/27423942
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Thu May 15, 2014 3:24 pm
Seriously though , why would they drop him ? Seems in good form ? I'll cheer Glasgae on against the Munsters any day
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu May 15, 2014 3:38 pm
Like has been suggested elsewhere, Hoggy came off at half-time against Zebre with an injury, so possibly hasn't been able to train this week, even tho now fit, allowing Toonie the luxury of rewarding the in-form and consistently reliable Peter Murchie with the starting shirt.
Perhaps of more interest is why Jackson (contract not renewed) was selected ahead of Weir (current Scotland 10) for bench stand-off
Perhaps of more interest is why Jackson (contract not renewed) was selected ahead of Weir (current Scotland 10) for bench stand-off
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Thu May 15, 2014 3:50 pm
Ah, thats unfortunate then, article didn't mention the injury, 'dropped' implies something else to me.
I see Maitland is back too, should be a good game
I see Maitland is back too, should be a good game
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by Shifty Thu May 15, 2014 3:52 pm
Yup I can just see Shane Williams doing the exact opposite to what Nico did there, he'd of let Hogg score no problem at all! 
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Thu May 15, 2014 3:54 pm
No one else would've been close to Shane Williams to be fair.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by bluestonevedder Thu May 15, 2014 3:58 pm
munkian wrote:No one else would've been close to Shane Williams to be fair.
Ha, I was going to say the same thing! He could seriously scamper.
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by munkian Thu May 15, 2014 4:10 pm
Situation like this in the Dragons v Trevisio game - young Tyler Morgan pretty much does everything to score a try, chases his kick - Will Harries sets it down. I'm guessing the 18 year old didn't have the nerve to kick off though
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/27364704
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/27364704
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by R!skysports Fri May 16, 2014 11:57 am
I thought it quite funny - although I actually do think that Hogg has a little bit of an attitude problem
In most matches there seems to be a little bit of heat boiling under the skin
Not that it is a real issue, but I think he does have a temper and as long as he does control it, then it will likely be part of what makes him a great player
In most matches there seems to be a little bit of heat boiling under the skin
Not that it is a real issue, but I think he does have a temper and as long as he does control it, then it will likely be part of what makes him a great player
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Re: Niko steals Hoggs try
by doctor_grey Fri May 16, 2014 12:10 pm
Maybe he can play 10 for the Lions some day?Riskysports wrote:Not that it is a real issue, but I think he does have a temper and as long as he does control it, then it will likely be part of what makes him a great player
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