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Post by mystiroakey Thu 05 Jun 2014, 12:25 pm

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Thats my Team GSC

I would be inclined to play Barkley instead of Ox if he isn't fit over sterling tbh. Both strong- both run at the opposition. Sterling does off course do this but isn't quite as physically imposing- all 3 have great feet but the former two are just stronger. Sterling is the better overall player though and perhaps would be the best option v costa rica and italy but against uruguay at the least I would rather have strength in the shape of ox or barkley.

I am surprised hearing many others saying wilshire had no impact. I thought it was his best game for yonks. Nothing spectacular but he played the way CM's should play- bright , alert, took the odd player on, was forward passing on the whole. Ok he got taken down a few too many times- but 70% of the time it results in retaining possession in a free kick.

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Post by Fernando Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:45 pm

This is so a situation where someone will get a major injury

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Post by skyeman Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:46 pm

Here we go again, someone tell the crowd to come back.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:48 pm

"What were you doing in the radar room?"

"We were tracking the radar"

TV just peaked Laugh
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Post by Guest Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:49 pm

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GSC wrote:I just went with a skinhead in a full Brighton kit.

1. Skinheads are cringeworthy and laughable.

2. Full kits, are for Under 11's only. Football shirts for that matter aren't for grown men.

ITV have done well tonight, 1st team manager, Referee, Stadium Manager.

You've gone way up in my estimation Nick.

Good lad  Hug 

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:53 pm

Lampard and Gerrard? If anyone says that, they must be drunk or a complete idiot.

Players back out, good stuff.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:54 pm

In the build up to this World Cup wright, Dixon, hoddle and others have constantly gone on about a lack of pace and penetration from England. Even then mentioning slow start etc...

Then when selecting teams...they go for combos of Henderson/Gerrard....Gerrard/Lampard and Gerrard/Milner  Doh 

No pace or creativity in the center of the park from England. Keep sticking with those combos and nothing will change.

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Post by skyeman Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:56 pm

Gees, that tackle could have put Gerrard out of the WC.

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Post by GSC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:58 pm

We could only be so lucky
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:59 pm

These Honduras players really are clummsy, wouldn't say its them going in hard, just being plain dopey.

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Post by skyeman Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:00 pm

Must be a red.

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Post by GSC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:00 pm

Should be a red
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:00 pm

What the Frak are these Hondurans on
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:01 pm

Sturridge, what a man. If that was Rooney he would of got up and decked that little cu*t

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Post by skyeman Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:02 pm

And this is a friendly?

Gonna put a tenner on them getting a red in their first game!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:03 pm

Can see an England player picking up a nasty injury tonight.

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Post by Guest Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:04 pm

We look so average

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Post by Fernando Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:04 pm

John wrote:We are so average
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Post by GSC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:06 pm

Henderson and Gerrard have done nothing
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Post by Guest Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:08 pm

Gerrard is so slow, centrally we are woeful. Ive changed my mind Henderson for Wilshere. Rooney is so bad, words fail me.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:09 pm

Im really worried about our midfield.

Apart from Barkley, all of our center mids have been slow and awful.

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Post by Guest Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:09 pm

GSC wrote:Henderson and Gerrard have done nothing

Quite the shock there, you picking out some Liverpool players.

Remember the Usual Suspects..

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:12 pm

Tbf Henderson and Gerrard have done there defensive duties very well. But going forward, there no where.

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Post by GSC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:12 pm

I hate everyone equally.

Mid has clearly been the weak link though. Don't put on the red tinted glasses, we have enough with those on this forum
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Post by The Special Juan Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:15 pm

GSC wrote:I hate everyone equally.

Nothing you ever say after this point will be truer.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:15 pm

Bring Wilshire and Barkley on Roy

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:17 pm

Front four are making good runs, interchanging well and doing good things when they get the ball, but the service is lacking quality and regularity from Henderson/Gerrard.

No real problems at that back barring the usual Glen Johnson brainfarts
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:17 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Tbf Henderson and Gerrard have done there defensive duties very well. But going forward, there no where.

I have no problem with hendo today. But Gerard is lacking. He does get a bit better as the game has gone on from both quarters but he is like a clock that needs to be wound up

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:18 pm

Play one or other not both!! England look pedestrian in the center of the park and it's a problem only solved by dropping one of them and playing either Barkley or Wilshere!

Welbeck provides little other than an honest shift out left; the same thing we have had to endure from Milner all these years. He may very well have 8 goals...5 have come against Scotland, San Marino, Moldova.

Rooney needs dropping; purple patch player and his last purple patch for England was Euro 2004. Heavy touch, poor passing and genuinely doesn't look like his heart is in it for England anymore.

Would rather have Lallana in that role; bright on the ball and a player who can actually use both his left and right foot! A rarity for our national side!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:21 pm

I hate I absolutely effin hate it when people say well Welbeck has scored 8 goals, but five have come against so and so, so they don't count

He's scored that amount of goals. I can say Sturridge has scored 10 goals but 9 of those came off his backside so they don't count so he has one.

Its like in cricket when they say well he only averaged 25 when you take out his century. 

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:22 pm

Owen I think rooneys heart is 100% in it. But he is experienced and wise to the fact he will start the tourny so isn't 100% committed when the opponents are close. He doesn't want an injury. He try's a lot of one touch passing and then move into space. It rarely comes off. But I think come tourney time he will be committed completely

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Post by Guest Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:25 pm

Olly wrote:I hate I absolutely effin hate it when people say well Welbeck has scored 8 goals, but five have come against so and so, so they don't count

He's scored that amount of goals. I can say Sturridge has scored 10 goals but 9 of those came off his backside so they don't count so he has one.

Its like in cricket when they say well he only averaged 25 when you take out his century. 

IDIOCY

I am assuming this is the point here?

Which takes us no further Olly.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:30 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Bring Wilshire and Barkley on Roy

Thank you Roy. I knew someone listened to me,

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:30 pm

I absolutely hate it when people use a players goal scoring record from non important games to justify the selection of players come a major tournament. Despite said player showing nothing when he has played against bigger teams !

I'm not saying I don't rate Welbeck; I do..but if you have him play him as a striker. Don't waste the left side by filling it with him. I'm sick of hearing 'oh but he will work hard for you' ..give me an England shirt and I'll bust a gut running for the team every single second! Doesn't mean your going to play me! He is not a left midfielder...he himself has admitted as much.

Watch the 2nd half and count how many times he cuts back and plays ball back to Baines or back to cm. rarely does he put a ball in or beat a man down the wing! Which is what I want from my 'wide midfielder'!!!

As for Rooney; I'd believe that if he had done anything relatively decent at 06, 10 World Cup or Euro 2012!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:32 pm

Yeah good choices.

Already Barkley is bossing it. This kid is amazing!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:36 pm

Go on Welbeck give the ball away again  OK 

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:38 pm

Looking a lot more faster in the middle of the park.

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Post by GSC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:42 pm

That's Wilshere for you.

Barkley needs a better touch there
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:45 pm

Been very impressed with Barkley and Whilshere so far.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:49 pm

Wilshere's gotta start for me alongside Gerrard. Not afraid to pick the ball up and go forward, gets better service to the forward players
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:51 pm

Obvious one of them was going off.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:51 pm

Wahey finally a red card!

Ridiculous challenges coming in for a friendly
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:52 pm

I think Wilshere gets helped by Barkley and in that token i think Barkley gets helped by Whilshere. Both been brilliant.

What a dirty foul. Daft and stupid.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 07 Jun 2014, 11:59 pm

Easier chance there for Sturridge. Stupid, must be scoring them with ease.

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Post by skyeman Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:00 am

If he had missed that one in a tight WC game. I would be furious 

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:02 am

If he did that this time next Saturday, safe to say there would be a few smashed pint glasses on the floor!

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Post by skyeman Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:02 am

The final ball just has to improve in the WC.

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Post by GSC Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:03 am

Someone needs to go through on one of these Hondurans
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Post by skyeman Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:03 am

NickisBHAFC wrote:If he did that this time next Saturday, safe to say there would be a few smashed pint glasses on the floor!

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Post by skyeman Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:11 am

Well, after the three warm-ups. Still not seen much to encourage me. Not one player has got me excited about what could happen.

But i live in hope.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 08 Jun 2014, 12:17 am

Awful simply awful.

Barkley and Whilshere excluded, everyone can be very angry with themselves tonight.

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