Khan wants Manny next

by wheelchair1991 Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:42 pm

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/06/khan-i-want-pacquiao-next-then-mayweather-in-may-2014/

What are the chances of this happening? and if it does how do you see it going?

for the record I don't think there is a chance in hell of this happening as Khan is with Al Haymon as we all know

by Rowley Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:45 pm

If he signs with Arim the fight happens, if he doesn't, it doesn't. As he won't sign it won't happen.

by Gerry SA Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:46 pm

Khan has a contract with GBPs, unlike fighters like Thurman, Lara, Alexander etc, therefore Khan can fight PacMan.

PacMan KOs Khan inside 4 rounds.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:47 pm

He's signed with Al Haymon Gerry so the fight has absolutely no chance of happening.

by Gerry SA Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:He's signed with Al Haymon Gerry so the fight has absolutely no chance of happening.

I'm going on what Oscar said. Some of the fighters have contracts with GBPs and Haymon is a secondary adviser.

Guerrero is in the same boat as Khan. Both are GBP fighters. I think Khan's got two fights left on the original deal.

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:54 pm

Guererro is also signed with Haymon like the majority of GBP fighters so that rules them out of fighting any Top Rank fighter as HBO won't negotiate with him.

by Gerry SA Mon 30 Jun 2014, 7:56 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Guererro is also signed with Haymon like the majority of GBP fighters so that rules them out of fighting any Top Rank fighter as HBO won't negotiate with him.

I agree with what you're saying, but Oscar is adamant regarding some of 'his fighters'.

Oscar might've been on the juice though when he was speaking...

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 30 Jun 2014, 8:01 pm

The list of fighters that Haymon advises reads like a who's who of GBP, I think he and Schaefer were very quick earlier in the year to tie up those they didn't already have on their books. Not entirely sure how it works as they are still ultimately signed to GBP but Haymon does all the negotiating from what I understand.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 30 Jun 2014, 9:47 pm

"Manny KOs Khan in 4 rounds"

Is this the same Manny who has went 5 years without getting a stoppage. The same manny who stopped KO'ing opponents since certain accusations where made about him. That left hand is fast and hard but for some strange reason the insane power it once contained has disappeared. Weiirdddddddd

by AdamT Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:22 pm

Why doesn't Manny hire Ariza back? He hasn't looked the same since he left

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:33 pm

One thing you can't say about Khan is that he lacks ambition....

Imagine the fact he goes for the big fights won't help him with his detractors on here but he's had a very good career and has much to be proud of..

by AdamT Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:39 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:One thing you can't say about Khan is that he lacks ambition....

Imagine the fact he goes for the big fights won't help him with his detractors on here but he's had a very good career and has much to be proud of..

I think he has a chance against Manny. If he uses his speed and range and doesn't get careless I think he is in with a shot. Manny has seemed to lost a bit of his famed power the last 3 or 4 years so can't see him pulling off a Garcia type knockout on Khan.

Anyway wont matter, Roach and Arum knows Khan could cause Manny problems, so will not let him near Khan anyway.

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:39 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:One thing you can't say about Khan is that he lacks ambition....

Imagine the fact he goes for the big fights won't help him with his detractors on here but he's had a very good career and has much to be proud of..

Rubbed my eyes when I read that.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:42 pm

Go and rub them on one of the other sites you're always quoting..

we aren't worthy remember..

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 12:51 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Go and rub them on one of the other sites you're always quoting..

we aren't worthy remember..

Just offered an alternative view in a debate. There's no need for you to feel insecure.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:00 pm

I'm totally insecure.......Just can't help...

Just like you're boring..

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:10 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm totally insecure.......Just can't help...

Just like you're boring..

I don't recall that I've rebranded and trotted out the same article umpteen times.

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:14 pm

Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm totally insecure.......Just can't help...

Just like you're boring..

I don't recall that I've rebranded and trotted out the same article umpteen times.

"EDDIE HEARN/DAVID HAYE IS THE ANTICHRIST blah blah blah" ring any bells?

by Strongback Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:33 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm totally insecure.......Just can't help...

Just like you're boring..

I don't recall that I've rebranded and trotted out the same article umpteen times.
"EDDIE HEARN/DAVID HAYE IS THE ANTICHRIST blah blah blah" ring any bells?

I don't look through my post history and then dust off an old article for recirculation.

You must be overdue a Peter Jackson thread.

by hazharrison Tue 01 Jul 2014, 1:41 pm

AdamT wrote:Why doesn't Manny hire Ariza back? He hasn't looked the same since he left

After Ariza kicked Pacquiao's disabled coach in the chest and then said disabled coach responded by insinuating Ariza was supplying Pacquiao with suspicious milkshakes throughout the most successful period of his career, I don't suppose that's a likely reunion.

by Gerry SA Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:48 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:"Manny KOs Khan in 4 rounds"

Is this the same Manny who has went 5 years without getting a stoppage. The same manny who stopped KO'ing opponents since certain accusations where made about him. That left hand is fast and hard but for some strange reason the insane power it once contained has disappeared. Weiirdddddddd

Is this the same Khan who got dropped by the pillow punching Julio Diaz?

PacMan will only need to land a jab and Khan will doing the chicken dance.

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 2:56 pm

Gerry is there a British fighter you do rate ??

by Gerry SA Tue 01 Jul 2014, 3:21 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Gerry is there a British fighter you do rate ??

Groves, he's still an excellent fighter. Just a bit of inexperience cost him.

Frampton, great little fighter. Looking forward to seeing Frampton vs Santa Cruz maybe next May.

by Gerry SA Tue 01 Jul 2014, 3:25 pm

It's not that I don't rate Khan. It's his attitude and his claims of entitlement to a Mayweather fight.

If he beats a live dog at welterweight. Then sure he would earned a Mayweather fight.

But he beat up a passed it Collazo, Collazo was only relevant as he KOd Ortiz.

Khan needs to face a Thurman, Broner, Alexander or Guerrero

by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 01 Jul 2014, 3:29 pm

Gerry SA wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Gerry is there a British fighter you do rate ??
Groves, he's still an excellent fighter. Just a bit of inexperience cost him.

Frampton, great little fighter. Looking forward to seeing Frampton vs Santa Cruz maybe next May.

Frampton is the only one with the X factor I grant you at the moment..

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 4:09 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm totally insecure.......Just can't help...

Just like you're boring..

I don't recall that I've rebranded and trotted out the same article umpteen times.
"EDDIE HEARN/DAVID HAYE IS THE ANTICHRIST blah blah blah" ring any bells?

I don't look through my post history and then dust off an old article for recirculation. NO, YOU SAY THE SAME BORING SH!T USING DIFFERENT WORDS

You must be overdue a Peter Jackson thread. I HAVE ONE TATTOOED ON THE INSIDE OF MY EYELIDS TO KEEP ME HAPPY

by Guest Tue 01 Jul 2014, 4:12 pm

Anyhoo....anyone think Khan is talking about fighting Manny as a sly dig at Floyd as if to say, "I have the stones to fight him, unlike you"

Or am I giving Khan far too much credit for engaging in psychological warfare?

by tunes666 Wed 02 Jul 2014, 12:21 am

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:"Manny KOs Khan in 4 rounds"

Is this the same Manny who has went 5 years without getting a stoppage. The same manny who stopped KO'ing opponents since certain accusations where made about him. That left hand is fast and hard but for some strange reason the insane power it once contained has disappeared. Weiirdddddddd

Every fighter he has fought in that time has never been stopped, which might also explain it. Apart from Margerito who was stopped on his feet once against Mosley, and how the reff did not stop that fight with Manny I dont know.

by quentins_monkey Wed 02 Jul 2014, 8:37 am

Gerry SA wrote:It's not that I don't rate Khan. It's his attitude and his claims of entitlement to a Mayweather fight.

If he beats a live dog at welterweight. Then sure he would earned a Mayweather fight.

But he beat up a passed it Collazo, Collazo was only relevant as he KOd Ortiz.

Khan needs to face a Thurman, Broner, Alexander or Guerrero

I agree with what you say about his sense of entitlement, but surely if he takes a fight with Pacquiao and (an even bigger IF) he beats him surely he would have earned his shot against Mayweather? Personally I can see why Khan would want to fight Pacquiao - if he wins, he'll likely get the Mayweather fight, if he loses, he's lost to someone that most expected him to for a career high purse. Seems like a no lose situation to me.

by Rowley Wed 02 Jul 2014, 8:44 am

DAVE667 wrote:Anyhoo....anyone think Khan is talking about fighting Manny as a sly dig at Floyd as if to say, "I have the stones to fight him, unlike you"

Or am I giving Khan far too much credit for engaging in psychological warfare?

Don't think it is anything so complicated Dave. Khan wants to fight the best as Floyd is currently unavailable and is also, based on the last time, a bit of a pain to deal with Manny is the next best thing. As Truss said earlier in the thread, you could not criticise Khan for his ambition.

by Guest Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:27 am

Rowley wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Anyhoo....anyone think Khan is talking about fighting Manny as a sly dig at Floyd as if to say, "I have the stones to fight him, unlike you"

Or am I giving Khan far too much credit for engaging in psychological warfare?

Don't think it is anything so complicated Dave. Khan wants to fight the best as Floyd is currently unavailable and is also, based on the last time, a bit of a pain to deal with Manny is the next best thing. As Truss said earlier in the thread, you could not criticise Khan for his ambition.

Yet I'm sure some will

by Derbymanc Wed 02 Jul 2014, 10:34 am

Good on Khan, stop chasing Floyd after he messed you about and go for the other no.1 in the division.
Can't fault him and hope he gets the fight and beats Manny.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:07 pm

It's all bulls**t isn't it.....

Maidana beats Broner a three weight world champion to become a World champion himself....Broner in most Top 12/15 lists..........Which of itself is enough to warrant a big payday and a shot at a big fighter..

Mayweather beats a Top 15 fighter and a World champion and is a coward for it...

Generally because people want to see him beat and think Maidana didn't have the tools for the job....

Maidana was more than deserving of the fight.........

Khan like Mayweather is marmite..............Whatever he does he'll be slagged off or loved...

Advice...Don't listen to the morons as they'll never be pleased.....

He beats Manny..........Manny was a shell.......

It's Khan's lot I'm afraid .......

I missed the age where you looked at the Top 10 and said I'll pick number 7 because he's got the most chance of beating me.........Looking at Holmes and Hagler's records certainly didn't happen in theirs..

Maybe Rowley and others can enlighten me..

by Derbymanc Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:19 pm

I'm not saying that Maidana wasn't deserving of a Floyd fight but even you can't say Floyd came out of the negotiations looking anything other than a spoilt brat and a chump.

There was the ridiculous twitter poll (which Khan won if I remember right), the length of time it took for it all to get done and Floyd stating that whoever won said twitter poll would be who the fans wanted and who he'd fight (I'm sure at one point he stated Manny would be on it but the old memory's not what it once was.)

Hopefully Khan forgets about Floyd and goes after Manny and even if he loses, there's no disgrace in it (same if he'd fought Floyd and lost).

To be honest he can't lose, cause even if he gets splatted in 10 secs it'll be Manny's fault as he only wanted an 'easy' fight.

Just hope that if it starts to look like happening Manny shows a bit more respect than Mayweather.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:30 pm

Maidana was and is nowhere near a top 15, he's only ranked 7th at Welterweight for Christ sake Truss and big deal that Broner beat three weak champions for three fairly pointless world titles.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:34 pm

No big deal for you Mate..........

Maidana in any language after winning a World title and beating an up and comer with three titles...

Is a deserving opponent.........

Like I said.........I missed the era where you looked through the top 10 and said I'll big number 7 because he has the best chance of beating me..

by Derbymanc Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:37 pm

I'm not sure if your addressing me or HH Truss,

But I thought Maidana was a worthy opponent and after reading the reports, sounded like he give as good as he could so props for him.

I didn't like the way Mayweather treated Khan in the run up to it and wouldn't expect any boxer regardless of position or talent to treat another one like that.

by Hammersmith harrier Wed 02 Jul 2014, 1:38 pm

You don't beat the best for your titles and they are meaningless, Broner has never beaten anybody worthy of the reputation you give him.

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