Would Khan get credit for beating Manny?

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:16 pm

It looks like this might happen in the first quarter of 2016(which would annoy me as that would mean Khan being out the ring for close to a year again). Arum has stated he is talking to Khan's team about the fight. I have my doubts it will happen as uncle Al and uncle Bob don't get on but assuming it does happen wil Khan get credit if he beats Manny?

After all Manny is 37(closer to 38 when the fight takes place). He has not looked that great lately and is coming off a one sided loss against Floyd(no shame there). He is also coming off a shoulder operation.

So if Khan beats Manny does he get any credit?

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:21 pm

Yes I would give him credit for sure, considering the lengths Floyd went to, to ensure he could beat Pacquiao.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:33 pm

I don't agree to be honest, and i hope this does not turn into another Mayweather bashing thread

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:34 pm

Sorry I will take back my previous statement. I guess nobody wants to go there again.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:38 pm

AdamT wrote:Sorry I will take back my previous statement. I guess nobody wants to go there again.

I think we have had enough of it to last a lifetime

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:39 pm

Well to answer your question without using Floyd.

Yes Pacquiao has seen better days, but if Khan beat him it would still be huge.

Lets face it, beating any version of Pac is better than struggling past Algeri.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:42 pm

I'd give him a lot of credit.......Good win is Manny....Problem is though that Khan is a love/hate figure and I'm afraid I think it's a lot to do with his Asian heritage..

He beats Brook......Brook is overrated.....

He beats Manny......Manny's shoulder wasn't right and he's past it....

I'm afraid whatever Khan does he can't win with many fans..

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:43 pm

I pick both Brook and Manny.

Khan could beat both, but I think he would get stopped late. Just my opinion.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:47 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'd give him a lot of credit.......Good win is Manny....Problem is though that Khan is a love/hate figure and I'm afraid I think it's a lot to do with his Asian heritage..

He beats Brook......Brook is overrated.....

He beats Manny......Manny's shoulder wasn't right and he's past it....

I'm afraid whatever Khan does he can't win with many fans..

I'm not his biggest fan and it has nothing to do with his Asian heritage. I hate the way he has wasted his peak and also the way he talks about himself in the 3rd person winds me up for some reason

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:48 pm

I think he is a d...head and It has nothing to do with his background.

by ONETWOFOREVER Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:50 pm

Credit?

An over the hill retiring Pac who is just about to embark on a farewell tour of meaningless pay check fights stating with Khan so he can go and tackle the world of politics with his last fight being held in the Philipines no doubt.

Not a hungry Pac who is willing to face ATG after ATG and beat them. Khan can't get any credit until he faces a contempary fighter in their primes like Thurman or Porter. Seems to be hiding from the big big fights. Never really pushed the chances of fighting Mayweather enough for me. Should have forced a fight through instead he shyed away from Mayweather who was willing to fight him.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:51 pm

Pac would still win imo.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:58 pm

Love how everyone thinks Pac is done because he lost to Mayweather.

Floyd fought with 100% concentration in that fight and trained his a.s off.

Granted Pacquiao wasn't always on attack, but Floyd was great defensively.

Floyd landed more, but he didn't land "that many" clean shots on Manny.

I actually think Manny boxed ok, he just wasn't his usual aggressive self. Perhaps Floyds right hand made him a bit cautious early on.

Floyd won at least 9 rounds, but he didn't exactly dominate Manny in any of the rounds, It wasn't a masterclass in my opinion. Least not in the way the commentators would have you believe.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:01 pm

You're slagging Floyd off for picking his moment with Manny..

Now you're saying Manny isn't done..

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:02 pm

He isn't done. He is a bit shopworn but not completely shot.

Of course Floyd picked his moment. He wanted no part of Manny until he lost to JMM.

by ONETWOFOREVER Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:02 pm

AdamT wrote:Love how everyone thinks Pac is done because he lost to Mayweather.

Floyd fought with 100% concentration in that fight and trained his a.s off.

Granted Pacquiao wasn't always on attack, but Floyd was great defensively.

Floyd landed more, but he didn't land "that many" clean shots on Manny.

I actually think Manny boxed ok, he just wasn't his usual aggressive self. Perhaps Floyds right hand made him a bit cautious early on.

Floyd won at least 9 rounds, but he didn't exactly dominate Manny in any of the rounds, It wasn't a masterclass in my opinion. Least not in the way the commentators would have you believe.

Agreed but Manny was done before that fight.

by ONETWOFOREVER Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:05 pm

AdamT wrote:He isn't done. He is a bit shopworn but not completely shot.

Of course Floyd picked his moment. He wanted no part of Manny until he lost to JMM.

No truth in this statement whatsoever.

but part of it is true.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:06 pm

Guys I don't want to ruin Wheelchairs thread.

Get back on topic.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:06 pm

AdamT wrote:Love how everyone thinks Pac is done because he lost to Mayweather.

Floyd fought with 100% concentration in that fight and trained his a.s off.

Granted Pacquiao wasn't always on attack, but Floyd was great defensively.

Floyd landed more, but he didn't land "that many" clean shots on Manny.

I actually think Manny boxed ok, he just wasn't his usual aggressive self. Perhaps Floyds right hand made him a bit cautious early on.

Floyd won at least 9 rounds, but he didn't exactly dominate Manny in any of the rounds, It wasn't a masterclass in my opinion. Least not in the way the commentators would have you believe.

So much for my floyd free thread

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:07 pm

AdamT wrote:Guys I don't want to ruin Wheelchairs thread.

Get back on topic.

Well said that man

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:08 pm

My guess is wheels that Khan beats Manny by easy decision in real time. ..

Manny beats Khan easy in slow motion replay..

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:09 pm

Dig at Manny fans there Truss??

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:11 pm

Khan fought well vs Chris.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:12 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:My guess is wheels that Khan beats Manny by easy decision in real time. ..

Manny beats Khan easy in slow motion replay..

Very good analysis...

by Nico the gman Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:17 pm

Khan would get credit, but I feel Manny would catch Khan at some stage of the fight, and I don't see Manny letting him off the hook.
That Khan chin is always going to let him down against big punchers.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Good post.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Khan has showed more maturity lately..

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:19 pm

He is afraid to fight bangers. He should of chased the Garcia rematch.

by ONETWOFOREVER Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:32 pm

Khan better see this as his biggest fight yet because if he sleeps on Manny then it could be over in brutal fashion. I think a focused Khan should do enough to win but he will look a mess at the end.

For me Manny is not focused. He was not focused for the last Marquez fight even tho he fought well at times and you got the impression he never really believed he would beat Mayweather just picking up that check $$$.

Now as I have stated before Manny is wrapping things up. A nice earner against Khan who does not pose a threat and the possibility that if Manny connects then its good night Khan. If he losses no big deal he has cemented his legacy and made some good bread. So whoever can be arsed will win.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:43 pm

How many prospects fight bangers in non title fights ??

Leave it out

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:49 pm

So is Amur a prospect?

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:54 pm

He is at the moment..

Name me a Hearn fighter who fought a banger pre title..

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:01 pm

Catch yourself on. He has been a champ and professional for long time. Hardly a prospect, he is a ducker.

Truss you slag Wlad for his vulnerability but are oblivious to Khans.

You have no clue when it comes to Khan. Either that or you're biased.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:06 pm

Adam it's hard to take you seriously when you throw a hissy fit every 5 minutes. Khan chased the Garcia match initially, they didn't wan't to know. After Matthyse beat the spirit out of him, he's looked like sh*t so now want's to have another go at Khan to boost his flagging appeal. Rare instance when the victor chases the loser for a rematch.

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:07 pm

When have I ever been oblivious to Khan's faults...Stop making unsubstantiated statements..

Khan's problem is his impetuosity......But he's a quality operator with top skills..

Not a plodder that fights in straight lines and stinks..

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:32 pm

He's a glass jawed idiot.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:33 pm

Yeah Khan tried real hard. Your making stuff up Shah. Khan didn't want to know.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:34 pm

AdamT wrote:He's a glass jawed idiot.

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by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:35 pm

AdamT wrote:Yeah Khan tried real hard. Your making stuff up Shah. Khan didn't want to know.

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:40 pm

Shah tell me when he called out Garcia.

He has being calling out Floyd the last 100 years you idiot.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:41 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He is at the moment..

Name me a Hearn fighter who fought a banger pre title..

Truss how on earth is Khan a prospect mate

by AdamT Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:41 pm

I will bump this thread after Pac knocks out Khan.

Until then I will leave it.

by **ShahenshahG** Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:43 pm

AdamT wrote:I will bump this thread after Pac knocks out Khan.

Until then I will leave it.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:43 pm

AdamT wrote:I will bump this thread after Pac knocks out Khan.

Until then I will leave it.

Why its a debate, just because someone disagrees with you or doesnt share your view you don't need to leave

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:43 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He is at the moment..

Name me a Hearn fighter who fought a banger pre title..

Truss how on earth is Khan a prospect mate

He's a contender....How many contenders risk shots against bangers ??

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:48 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
wheelchair1991 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He is at the moment..

Name me a Hearn fighter who fought a banger pre title..

Truss how on earth is Khan a prospect mate

He's a contender....How many contenders risk shots against bangers ??

I agree now he is a contender, but surely he has to face someone in the top 10 next? Most if not all in the WW division can bang a bit

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:52 pm

Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

by RanjitPatel Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:58 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

The rules do change for Khan due to racism. Simple as that. It's dressed up as not liking his personality but overall it's just plain racism.

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:02 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

I give Khan credit for Alexander, i'm not defending Brook at all on that score

by wheelchair1991 Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:02 pm

RanjitPatel wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Devon Alexander and Algieri are bigger names than Brook fought when he was a contender....Or since he's been champion..

Do the rules change for Khan ??

The rules do change for Khan due to racism. Simple as that. It's dressed up as not liking his personality but overall it's just plain racism.

Mate give it a rest race has nothing to do with it, not from anyone on this thread anyhow

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