Pro 12 sponsor

by **RDW** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 3:00 pm

Does anyone have the latest with what's going on with the Pro 12?

Quite concerning it is July and still no word on it - who is doing the negotiating?

If this is being discussed somewhere else let me know!

by Scrumpy Mon 07 Jul 2014, 3:19 pm

Does seem a bit late.

by thebandwagonsociety Mon 07 Jul 2014, 3:19 pm

Does seem a little strange.
Also haven't seen Sky or any of the Terrestrials advertising the pro12 either.
Are they keeping their powder dry until after the soccer world cup? It will be hard (and expensive) to get market penetration if they advertise anything before the middle of next week.
I presume Sky might have linked up with the new sponsors to have a focused push on getting the new branding out into the market at the start of the season.
Also, when did the Rabo deal run through to? Is there a chance that their deal worked on a 12 month basis (say August through July) in which case it might be a coule of weeks before we see anything.

by VinceWLB Mon 07 Jul 2014, 3:31 pm

Facebook page is now only "Pro 12 rugby" so i guess contract with rabo ended in June.

Turkish Airline were the front runner for main sponsor but it's quite concerning it is so quiet, guess the situation with Welsh rugby doesn't help.
We need some sort of fixture list as soon as possible now that the other 2 leagues have announced theirs.

by thebandwagonsociety Mon 07 Jul 2014, 3:43 pm

We don't have to jump to their tune though Vince.

We have to figure out our schedule based off the football schedule as the premier league and fa cup fixtures have the highest impact on who plays who most weekends in our league. (the joys of having teams ground share).

by St John The Enforcer Mon 07 Jul 2014, 3:58 pm

www.guinnesspro12.com

by Scrumpy Mon 07 Jul 2014, 4:10 pm

Berocca Pro 12?

Might liven it up a bit. Wink

by **RDW** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 4:31 pm

Tweeted the Pro12 page, which is still active, hopefully they reply giving some news.

by St John The Enforcer Mon 07 Jul 2014, 4:43 pm

St John The Enforcer wrote:www.guinnesspro12.com

d'yiz not believe me? This domain has been registered by celtic rugby. Check it out.

by **RDW** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 4:48 pm

It only says 'registered by a customer'?

by St John The Enforcer Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:06 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:It only says 'registered by a customer'?

not much of an Internet sleuth eh?

by **RDW** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:07 pm

Got more exciting things to do! Very Happy

by St John The Enforcer Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:08 pm

Which is why you are off tweeting some shots instead of just doing this.

Guinnesspro12.com
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by **RDW** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:11 pm

Ah but does it tell you when the fixtures will be announced, which is something I asked?? Whistle

Would be happy with Guinness Pro 12!

by VinceWLB Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:20 pm

Very happy with Guinness Pro 12 too!

I guess an announcement is coming soon.

by justified sinner Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:20 pm

That's all well and good, but we don't actually have a competition until the Welsh stop their endless bickering. I'm getting a bit tired of their lack of respect to the other participants in the Pro 12, firstly falling for the PRL rubbish, now completely incapable of reaching an agreement regarding participating for next year.

by LeinsterFan4life Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:22 pm

Lets just hope we get a more lucrative deal with the title sponsor this time! Apparently the Rabo one was worth basically nothing.

by **RDW** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:24 pm

What's the latest on the Welsh situation, in a nutshell?

by justified sinner Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:34 pm

Last I heard they'd missed the deadline and were trying to agree a deadline for a meeting to discuss the deadline by which they would set the next deadline.

Or something like that.

by Jhamer25 Mon 07 Jul 2014, 5:47 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:What's the latest on the Welsh situation, in a nutshell?

That's a deal is very close. Apparently.
They say they are just talking about the smaller things now. I will only believe it though when it is actually announced.

by **Notch** Mon 07 Jul 2014, 10:01 pm

No sponsor for the Pro12 or for the new European Cup announced yet.

Suspect both deals are done but are waiting to announce them. Last few weeks we've had Wimbledon and the World Cup, next month is the Commonwealth Games so they'll just want to announce their big new sponsorship deals when they might actually make the sports pages... but certainly no-one is going to announce anything when the World Cup is sucking all the attention up in the sports media.

by Sin é Mon 07 Jul 2014, 11:07 pm

Notch wrote:No sponsor for the Pro12 or for the new European Cup announced yet.

Suspect both deals are done but are waiting to announce them. Last few weeks we've had Wimbledon and the World Cup, next month is the Commonwealth Games so they'll just want to announce their big new sponsorship deals when they might actually make the sports pages... but certainly no-one is going to announce anything when the World Cup is sucking all the attention up in the sports media.

There were comments in the Midi Olympic last week or the week before that there was no bid for the French TV rights. Until the media is sorted out, no sponsor will touch it. Apart from anything else, sponsors will be put off by the mix of media in UK & Ireland markets. They will have to buy support advertising on two media channels which makes it very expensive.

Personally think there is very little in the papers about the world cup since England were knocked out. I don't think that is delaying any announcements. More than likely the mess is with the Welsh Regionsn who might not even show up (or allow their players to show up) for the launch.

by Scrumpy Tue 08 Jul 2014, 10:53 am

Does the Pro 12 have a nickname?

The Aviva Prem is known as the Jeff here on V2, maybe we should come up with one.

My effort is 'The Feeder League'

by Cyril Tue 08 Jul 2014, 11:06 am

Sin é wrote:
Notch wrote:No sponsor for the Pro12 or for the new European Cup announced yet.

Suspect both deals are done but are waiting to announce them. Last few weeks we've had Wimbledon and the World Cup, next month is the Commonwealth Games so they'll just want to announce their big new sponsorship deals when they might actually make the sports pages... but certainly no-one is going to announce anything when the World Cup is sucking all the attention up in the sports media.

There were comments in the Midi Olympic last week or the week before that there was no bid for the French TV rights. Until the media is sorted out, no sponsor will touch it. Apart from anything else, sponsors will be put off by the mix of media in UK & Ireland markets. They will have to buy support advertising on two media channels which makes it very expensive.

Personally think there is very little in the papers about the world cup since England were knocked out. I don't think that is delaying any announcements. More than likely the mess is with the Welsh Regionsn who might not even show up (or allow their players to show up) for the launch.

Are you talking about the Irish or British press? Over here the World Cup is still wall-to-wall in the sports sections. Plus we've had Wimbledon and the Tour de France stages being in England.

by GoodinTightSpaces Tue 08 Jul 2014, 11:15 am

Scrumpy wrote:Does the Pro 12 have a nickname?

The Aviva Prem is known as the Jeff here on V2, maybe we should come up with one.

My effort is 'The Feeder League'

how about better than Jeff

by **Notch** Tue 08 Jul 2014, 11:20 am

It's also dominating the Irish Sports Pages so not sure where that comes from Cyril.

by VinceWLB Tue 08 Jul 2014, 11:21 am

Scrumpy wrote:Does the Pro 12 have a nickname?

The Aviva Prem is known as the Jeff here on V2, maybe we should come up with one.

My effort is 'The Feeder League'

NH Super Rugby

by Sin é Tue 08 Jul 2014, 12:09 pm

Cyril wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Notch wrote:No sponsor for the Pro12 or for the new European Cup announced yet.

Suspect both deals are done but are waiting to announce them. Last few weeks we've had Wimbledon and the World Cup, next month is the Commonwealth Games so they'll just want to announce their big new sponsorship deals when they might actually make the sports pages... but certainly no-one is going to announce anything when the World Cup is sucking all the attention up in the sports media.

There were comments in the Midi Olympic last week or the week before that there was no bid for the French TV rights. Until the media is sorted out, no sponsor will touch it. Apart from anything else, sponsors will be put off by the mix of media in UK & Ireland markets. They will have to buy support advertising on two media channels which makes it very expensive.

Personally think there is very little in the papers about the world cup since England were knocked out. I don't think that is delaying any announcements. More than likely the mess is with the Welsh Regionsn who might not even show up (or allow their players to show up) for the launch.

Are you talking about the Irish or British press? Over here the World Cup is still wall-to-wall in the sports sections. Plus we've had Wimbledon and the Tour de France stages being in England.

Only so much can be written with so few teams left. I think it has died down considerably. There is lots of stuff going on (as there usually is this time of the year), but no one sport is dominating the headlines. The tennis, golf, tour de france (and the GAA provincials & championship qualifiers over here) happen every year at this time.

I'd imagine new title sponsors would want some of the top players at the announcement and most of them are still away on holiday anyway (though I saw Conor Murray was back with Munster over a week ago).

by Kingshu Tue 08 Jul 2014, 12:12 pm

I hope that it is Guinness, as it would mean Ravenhill reverting back to selling Guinness.

It's the important things I focas on. lol

by bedfordwelsh Tue 08 Jul 2014, 1:14 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:What's the latest on the Welsh situation, in a nutshell?

In a nutshell, mmmmmm would have to be a if nutshell to get all the crap going on inside.

by Scrumpy Tue 08 Jul 2014, 1:18 pm

Kingshu wrote:I hope that it is Guinness, as it would mean Ravenhill reverting back to selling Guinness.

It's the important things I focas on. lol

I agree, the Guinness Prem was great due to the easy availability of the Black Stuff whilst someone trying to sell you insurance just isn't the same!

by Mickado Tue 08 Jul 2014, 1:35 pm

St John The Enforcer wrote:Which is why you are off tweeting some shots instead of just doing this.

Guinnesspro12.com
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Wonder is there money to be made in registering domain names before the deals are done and selling them when they're required. It didn't take a genius to find out the 2 or 3 interested parties...

by SecretFly Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:02 pm

Kingshu wrote:I hope that it is Guinness, as it would mean Ravenhill reverting back to selling Guinness.

It's the important things I focas on. lol

What gets sold there now? Insurance policies in plastic cups?

by thebandwagonsociety Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:04 pm

So if Diageo have the title sponsorship then will there be a change to bushmills doing the hot whiskeys in the winter?

Am I the only one that thinks it's sacrilege to drink guinness out of those plastic pint glasses. At least there won't be anyone at the grounds naive enough to single pour a pint!! god forbid.

by SecretFly Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:05 pm

PS... if it truly is a case of what sponsors the League gets sold at the ground, then I think my choice would be The Playboy Pro12

by Scrumpy Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:07 pm

I'd rather someone accidentally spilled some Guinness on me rather than their load!

by **Notch** Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:08 pm

There can be a fair bit of money in domain name squatting, aye, but if the complainant goes down a legal route they are very likely to be successful. I have no idea what the laws are in Ireland though, given many Irish politicians seemingly total ignorance of the internet, I imagine its a grey area.

by SecretFly Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:20 pm

Notch wrote:There can be a fair bit of money in domain name squatting, aye, but if the complainant goes down a legal route they are very likely to be successful. I have no idea what the laws are in Ireland though, given many Irish politicians seemingly total ignorance of the internet, I imagine its a grey area.

The female politician had a point though. Curbing the excesses of the Digital Webface Intergoogle, as it were, might have possibly brought about a suitable end to the two gobshytes talking over her. Lads................... em..................... Aldi store shelf fillers, is it? The two of ye? - Yep, stick to that lads. Much more productive.

by **RDW** Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:21 pm

Scrumpy wrote:I'd rather someone accidentally spilled some Guinness on me rather than their load!

by SecretFly Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:23 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Scrumpy wrote:I'd rather someone accidentally spilled some Guinness on me rather than their load!

It's all the talk of how spectacular the new Pro12 is going to be. He just got over-excited.

by **RDW** Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:25 pm

I'd be pretty concerned if I was at a Rugby game and saw someone so excited they had a raging stauner!

by GoodinTightSpaces Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:38 pm

New sponsor to be announced on Thursday. looks like it is Guinness

by Scrumpy Tue 08 Jul 2014, 2:42 pm

Shame its not Marmite!

by Nematode Tue 08 Jul 2014, 3:11 pm

Re knickname, I just call it Rabo rugby. Guess that'll have to change...

Would some of the mid-east airlines (Etihad, Emirates, Qatar) be interested saying it's 5 countries?

by Chunky Norwich Tue 08 Jul 2014, 3:37 pm

Scrumpy wrote:Does the Pro 12 have a nickname?

The bunch of *h*t league.

by Scrumpy Tue 08 Jul 2014, 3:42 pm

From this day forward the Celtic league will be known as

'The Marmite'

by **profitius** Tue 08 Jul 2014, 5:00 pm

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/guinness-to-be-announced-as-new-pro12-sponsor-1.1859378

Guinness set to be announced thursday.

by HammerofThunor Tue 08 Jul 2014, 5:15 pm

Nematode wrote:Re knickname, I just call it Rabo rugby. Guess that'll have to change...

Would some of the mid-east airlines (Etihad, Emirates, Qatar) be interested saying it's 5 countries?

Aye, that's where Jeff came from. The change to Aviva and people were used to GP, so it was renamed from a poster's kid's hamster.

Good news though.

by **Notch** Tue 08 Jul 2014, 5:21 pm

I used to call it the Magners League, now I just call it the Pro12 and that part of the name seems unlikely to change. Sponsors come and go, hard to get too excited about it, but this will surely herald the return of Guinness to bars in grounds all around the league which many fans will be happy about.

by IanBru Wed 09 Jul 2014, 1:25 am

Guinness! Brilliant! They can dust off the old 'Guinness Premiership' advertising hoardings, cut them in half, add a 'o12' at the end, and hey presto!

I should have been on Blue Peter.

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