Mayweathers WBC 154lb title will also be at stake against Maidana

The WBC have released this statement:

"The WBC has decided to step forward and support yet another pinnacle in the history-making career of Floyd Mayweather Jr. Floyd is the only fighter ever to conquer WBC championships in five different weight categories as well as winning the WBC Diamond Belt and Solid Gold Belt. Further, Floyd has the distinction of being one of the few champions who has received the WBC "Emeritus Champion" status.

Marcos Maidana is without a doubt a fighter who has created his own history in the sport. This past May, Marcos performed like no Mayweather opponent had in many years. That makes the September 13 rematch a very attractive event where Maidana could become the WBC Welter and Super Welter Champion of the world."

The fight will take place at the welterweight limit. It looks like this is just an arrangement to allow Mayweather to hold onto both titles by marking this as an official defence of his light middleweight title without actually facing a light middleweight.

Do the WBC have any other divisions vacant? If so can they also be at stake?

Great stuff................The greatest fighter of his generation and a top 10 of the sport being honored and rightly so..

Love it....Hope he picks another stiff after Maidana...

Louis and hagler fought stiffs so why not !!

How can the 154lb belt be at stake when a) it isn't the weight class they're fighting at and b) a weight class Maidana has never fought at?

This is absolutely ridiculous. Is this to get 2 sanctioning fees?

Leonard - Lalonde fought at 168 and the 175 title was at stake..

Learn your history Son..

Who really cares, the belts don't mean a lot in a fight like this anyway.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Leonard - Lalonde fought at 168 and the 175 title was at stake..

Learn your history Son..

Doesn't make it right Truss. Just because something has happened in the past it does not automatically mean any instance of it happening again automatically becomes exempt from criticism.

Who cares......No one takes Boxing seriously..

Berg challenged Canzoneri for his lightweight title while simultaneously defending his light welterweight title, that didn't stop many publications at the time from still considering him the champion despite losing.

Boxing is a joke...........and alphabets are just interested in money......

Why we are a bunch of diehards on here....

Haz is right titles are a joke these days............However I don't buy all this linear crap either.

Am I right in thinking if any of us can think of a historical precedent for something happening in the sport we can use it to nullify and dismiss any displeasure anyone has with something that happens in the modern game?

Its fine Rowley, let him have his little pop.

Rowley wrote:Am I right in thinking if any of us can think of a historical precedent for something happening in the sport we can use it to nullify and dismiss any displeasure anyone has with something that happens in the modern game?

Only if you put .............. or !!!!!!! after it

Rowley wrote:Am I right in thinking if any of us can think of a historical precedent for something happening in the sport we can use it to nullify and dismiss any displeasure anyone has with something that happens in the modern game?

That's an interesting question.......Getting sensitive in your old age...

I like Mayweather the fighter...You don't....

As for the other two squirts they should just read and learn !!

This is the level of debate we get on here when Floyd is discussed, you're only saying that because you don't like him. Kind of makes you appreciate why 99% of posters avoid the subject like the plague.

But it is relevant...

Does make me laugh thought Truss, you have previously decried the cheapening of world titles and rightly pointed out they are things that people have died trying to secure such titles, however when the WBC in its infinite wisdom choose to give one of their belts away in a fight that is not even happening in the division concerned it is a fitting honour to the best fighter of his generation. Not one of your more consistent stances that one.

Some over sensitive Mayweather types on here..........

Cant say I blame them..........

Personal preference does come into it with every boxer for good and for bad.

Moby with Quigg and Brook despite the latter proving him wrong
Haz with Golovkin and Hagler
Myself with Froch and Lewis
Truss with Curry and Mayweather
Catchweight with Hopkins
etc. etc.

I was being a bit facetious............(It means sarcastic.....Jabby and catchy)

Just endless negative Mayweather dribble on here......

Who cares anyway.................Boxing is a joke.

Like to think I am fairly even handed with Floyd, said I wanted him to fight Alvarez and praised him when he agreed to do so, also did not diminish the win after the event, as others chose to do. Also did not join in with those claiming he got lucky first time against MM, watched the fight, thought Floyd deserved the nod and said just that.

Far too easy to say "you don't like him", get out of jail when you know the other person has a point, and a 154 belt being on the line for a welterweight fight is balls, irrespective of who is involved in the fight.

I like to think I add balance Rowley...........

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Personal preference does come into it with every boxer for good and for bad.

Moby with Quigg and Brook despite the latter proving him wrong
Haz with Golovkin and Hagler
Myself with Froch and Lewis
Truss with Curry and Mayweather
Catchweight with Hopkins
etc. etc.

That's fair enough................

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I was being a bit facetious............(It means sarcastic.....Jabby and catchy)

Just endless negative Mayweather dribble on here......

Who cares anyway.................Boxing is a joke.

What does sarcastic mean?

Rowley wrote:Does make me laugh thought Truss, you have previously decried the cheapening of world titles and rightly pointed out they are things that people have died trying to secure such titles, however when the WBC in its infinite wisdom choose to give one of their belts away in a fight that is not even happening in the division concerned it is a fitting honour to the best fighter of his generation. Not one of your more consistent stances that one.

My view of titles then and now have changed..............I think they are pointless which is a shame.........

Especially for kell Brook who won a decent title against a decent fighter...............He'll have to go down in history with the WBO crap over here..

Like it hammer....."the latter proving him wrong"

I deserved that.

Glad I was proved wrong though as I said.

Still don't rate him that highly yet until he fights maybe a couple more decent names.

Has a great jab mind!!

mobilemaster8 wrote:Like it hammer....."the latter proving him wrong"

I deserved that.

Glad I was proved wrong though as I said.

Still don't rate him that highly yet until he fights maybe a couple more decent names.

Has a great jab mind!!

Wasn't one of your better week's Moby !!..............Just like the week I told everyone Biggs was going to school Tyson.

Haha fair one Truss.


Was not as bad as my "Martinez will hammer Cotto no later than 6".....

mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha fair one Truss.


Was not as bad as my "Martinez will hammer Cotto no later than 6".....

Only one poster on here got that one right.............................Anyway I'm off to bed with Milky's wife !!

Haha always a pleasure!

Rowley wrote:Do the WBC have any other divisions vacant? If so can they also be at stake?

Why wait until a belt is vacant, they stripped Ward and Martinez the first chance they got might as well put Stivernes belt on the line, unless Vitali still has it in a state of infinite dibs.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Leonard - Lalonde fought at 168 and the 175 title was at stake..

Learn your history Son..

I believe the circumstances were unique in that case since it was the inaugral sanctioning of super middleweight title by the WBC, since it was the first time it had been fought for, and since previously the fighters would have been contesting the light-heavy title had they come in at the stipulated weight. Leonard was made to give up the light heavy title soon after I believe. It's actually a really entertaining fight as well.

You're wrong and you know it..

Leonard never fought at 175 again........Handpicked Duran and Hearns and then lost to Norris and a fat Camacho..At 168/168/154/154..

It was just so Leonard could be the first Man to win 5 titles at different weights Mate...as well you know.

Buttering him up because he was a huge earner like Floyd !!........

All about money and two sanctioning fees.............

Boxing = Money......Principles If they ever existed are gone now..

Rowley wrote:Does make me laugh thought Truss, you have previously decried the cheapening of world titles and rightly pointed out they are things that people have died trying to secure such titles, however when the WBC in its infinite wisdom choose to give one of their belts away in a fight that is not even happening in the division concerned it is a fitting honour to the best fighter of his generation. Not one of your more consistent stances that one.

Truss? Consistency??

I assume that was meant to be an ironic comment Rowls?!?

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Rowley wrote:Does make me laugh thought Truss, you have previously decried the cheapening of world titles and rightly pointed out they are things that people have died trying to secure such titles, however when the WBC in its infinite wisdom choose to give one of their belts away in a fight that is not even happening in the division concerned it is a fitting honour to the best fighter of his generation. Not one of your more consistent stances that one.

Truss? Consistency??

I assume that was meant to be an ironic comment Rowls?!?

I'm married and Chris is taken.......Time to look elsewhere Mate.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Personal preference does come into it with every boxer for good and for bad.

Moby with Quigg and Brook despite the latter proving him wrong
Haz with Golovkin and Hagler
Myself with Froch and Lewis
Truss with Curry and Mayweather
Catchweight with Hopkins
etc. etc.

My favourite ever is still Mackem with Rigo.

Lectured everyone on here for months about how perfect/amazing/legendary he was. Faced a torrent of kick-back from the Donaire love-in on here and then, that night, got proved right!!

Stayed up to watch that one live and my first thought when the result was announced was Mackem passing out in his chair in Sunderland having celebratorily doused himself in special brew.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Rowley wrote:Does make me laugh thought Truss, you have previously decried the cheapening of world titles and rightly pointed out they are things that people have died trying to secure such titles, however when the WBC in its infinite wisdom choose to give one of their belts away in a fight that is not even happening in the division concerned it is a fitting honour to the best fighter of his generation. Not one of your more consistent stances that one.

Truss? Consistency??

I assume that was meant to be an ironic comment Rowls?!?

I'm married and Chris is taken.......Time to look elsewhere Mate.

You're married, Chris is taken, and you're never consistent - some things never change!

I love the way you stalk me on current boxing threads......

Anything pre-2010 and you are noticeable by your absence...

This site didn't exist pre-2010........

mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha fair one Truss.


Was not as bad as my "Martinez will hammer Cotto no later than 6".....

Here are some of my good and bad ones.............

Tyson ko 4 Holmes
Curry ko 5 Mccrory
Holy ko 6 Douglas
Spinks w15 qawi

Hatton ko 6 Manny
Biggs w 12 Tyson
Holmes ko 2 Spinks
Bramble ko 8 Rosario

More bad ones than good ones................Lost more pocket money to my brother than I got in return.......For sure..

Jesus Truss.

Some bad ones there mate! :-)

I think ive had some similar:

Hatton UD Pacquiao

Martinez KO Cotto

Khan UD Garcia

Dawson UD Stevenson

All of the above were supposed to cruise to victory in my comments on them with a couple of scares along the way.

Ended up being completely way off and out of pocket!!

Picking Margarito to weather the early storm, walk through Cotto's shots, wear him down and take him out late in their first fight was one of my better predictions.....Saying he'd do the same in their rematch was one of my worst.

Oh, and Mayweather defending his 154 lb belts in this fight is a load of pointless hogwash, by the way!

Hatton - Cotto was a fight I'd love to have seen.........at 140...

Pickem for me.....or maybe 60-40 Cotto..

Missed a good one there..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Hatton - Cotto was a fight I'd love to have seen.........at 140...

So would I but only if the cruiserweight belt was also on the line.

Rowley wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Hatton - Cotto was a fight I'd love to have seen.........at 140...

So would I but only if the cruiserweight belt was also on the line.

Why cruiser ?? welter was the next one up...

You're full of surprises Rowley

It makes more sense for Mayweather to have both titles on the line. If Maidana wins then he should get both titles. Winner takes all. It wouldnt make sense for Mayweather to keep one title if he lost. If he loses, he loses. Not going to happen though. He will school Maidana next time.

Was anyone actually looking at the belts in this fight anyway? Forgive me if I sound naïve but isn’t every Mayweather fight for the last few years purely about taking his 0? I'd consider myself a hardcore fan and I lose track of which belts are held by which champion these days anyway so god knows what a casual fan makes of it. I see logic with the likes of Brit and Euro belts but the numerous governing bodies and the fancy "diamond" and "Solid Gold" rubbish just confuses people.

Side question though, what's with the Everlast gloves thing? I think Floyd would win regardless and Maidana signed the fight knowing this would probably be enforced, I also know the champ has always called the shots but come on! Maidana should be allowed to wear the approved gloves that suit his game and if Floyd wants approved gloves with extra padding then so be it.

What gets me is that Floyd calls himself "TBE" and like most I have him as my number 1 p4p whereas I have Maidana outside the current top 10. If Floyd really wants to live up to that title just let Maidana have his approved gloves. Maidana's camp will make sure they have the required padding this time if they really didn't last time, although I never know quite what to believe. It might do something to spice up the rematch a bit too as I can't say I'm excited.

Maidana signed the contract, I get that, but I'm disappointed in Floyd as this really should be inconsequential if you're "TBE".

DuransHorse wrote:Maidana signed the contract, I get that, but I'm disappointed in Floyd as this really should be inconsequential if you're "TBE".

Simple fact is, he isn't.

He is if "TBE" stands for "THE Bell End"

DuransHorse wrote:Was anyone actually looking at the belts in this fight anyway?  Forgive me if I sound naïve but isn’t every Mayweather fight for the last few years purely about taking his 0? I'd consider myself a hardcore fan and I lose track of which belts are held by which champion these days anyway so god knows what a casual fan makes of it.  I see logic with the likes of Brit and Euro belts but the numerous governing bodies and the fancy "diamond" and "Solid Gold" rubbish just confuses people.

Side question though, what's with the Everlast gloves thing?  I think Floyd would win regardless and Maidana signed the fight knowing this would probably be enforced, I also know the champ has always called the shots but come on! Maidana should be allowed to wear the approved gloves that suit his game and if Floyd wants approved gloves with extra padding then so be it.  

What gets me is that Floyd calls himself "TBE" and like most I have him as my number 1 p4p whereas I have Maidana outside the current top 10.  If Floyd really wants to live up to that title just let Maidana have his approved gloves.  Maidana's camp will make sure they have the required padding this time if they really didn't last time, although I never know quite what to believe.  It might do something to spice up the rematch a bit too as I can't say I'm excited.

Maidana signed the contract, I get that, but I'm disappointed in Floyd as this really should be inconsequential if you're "TBE".

I just look at 16/17 years at the top level unbeaten......and sack the titles..

No boxer in history can match that !!