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Post by GSC Tue 07 Oct 2014, 11:01 am

First topic message reminder :

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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:39 pm

Koba wrote:
sodhat wrote:I got a weng deal on a Sony Experia Z3 in the end Viva. I was going to leave Virgin but when I threatened them on the phone they knocked 11 quid off the monthly contract and gave me the phone free.

Always threaten people to be a success, guys.

How much you paying and what do you get?

Unlimited everything for £38 per month.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:39 pm

May 2015 Notts Forest will still be know the championship, Mark my words.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:40 pm

sodhat wrote:
Koba wrote:
sodhat wrote:I got a weng deal on a Sony Experia Z3 in the end Viva. I was going to leave Virgin but when I threatened them on the phone they knocked 11 quid off the monthly contract and gave me the phone free.

Always threaten people to be a success, guys.

How much you paying and what do you get?

Unlimited everything for £38 per month.

Do you get truly unlimited Internet?
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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:40 pm

Koba wrote:May 2015 Notts Forest will still be know the championship, Mark my words.

Well yeah, the league tables don't change around until summer.

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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:41 pm

Koba wrote:
sodhat wrote:
Koba wrote:
sodhat wrote:I got a weng deal on a Sony Experia Z3 in the end Viva. I was going to leave Virgin but when I threatened them on the phone they knocked 11 quid off the monthly contract and gave me the phone free.

Always threaten people to be a success, guys.

How much you paying and what do you get?

Unlimited everything for £38 per month.

Do you get truly unlimited Internet?

Yes, but even if not my usage only shows 2MB per month so I'm well within whatever sneaky limits they set.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:44 pm

sodhat wrote:
Koba wrote:
sodhat wrote:
Koba wrote:
sodhat wrote:I got a weng deal on a Sony Experia Z3 in the end Viva. I was going to leave Virgin but when I threatened them on the phone they knocked 11 quid off the monthly contract and gave me the phone free.

Always threaten people to be a success, guys.

How much you paying and what do you get?

Unlimited everything for £38 per month.

Do you get truly unlimited Internet?

Yes, but even if not my usage only shows 2MB per month so I'm well within whatever sneaky limits they set.

Then you got a bad ass deal. £38 for a flagship phone and unlimited everything without paying any upfront cost, well played Sodhat.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:45 pm

sodhat wrote:
Koba wrote:May 2015 Notts Forest will still be know the championship, Mark my words.

Well yeah, the league tables don't change around until summer.

This time next year Notts Forest will still be in the Championship, while their  more sexy looking East Midlands brothers will be playing in the Premier League.
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:45 pm

I could win a couple of CL titles managing the likes Ronaldo, Keane, Cantona, Ferdinand, Vidic, Giggs, Beckham etc.

Probably more.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:47 pm

Which English teams are playing today? 

Does anyone here support England teams in Europe? I don't and never will.
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Post by Holymiky Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:50 pm

City and Chelsea today.

I support English teams in Europe and I try to watch as many games as possible of any team regardless of where they are from because I enjoy it at also because as a Pretend manager I like to see how all players are getting on so its basically my scouting system.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:50 pm

GSC wrote:I could win a couple of CL titles managing the likes Ronaldo, Keane, Cantona, Ferdinand, Vidic, Giggs, Beckham etc.

Probably more.

*New Manchester United manager GSC enters Carrington to meet the players. 

Gsc: Hi I'm GSC the new manager of United 
Cantona: Never heard of you my son 
Beckham: ok

If you managed United the players would laugh at you , imagine what happend to Moyes it'd be a trillion times worse. You need to have the biggest balls ever to manager United. Sir Alex made those players who they became.


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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:52 pm

Holymiky wrote:City and Chelsea today.

I support English teams in Europe and I try to watch as many games as possible of any team regardless of where they are from because I enjoy it at also because as a Pretend manager I like to see how all players are getting on so its basically my scouting system.

I'll watch the matches I always do but I never support the English sides, I love it when United were the only English team in Europe and all of England hopes are on the great Scot Sir Alex.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:53 pm

I'm on 49 posts, this is doable.
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:54 pm

Koba wrote:
GSC wrote:I could win a couple of CL titles managing the likes Ronaldo, Keane, Cantona, Ferdinand, Vidic, Giggs, Beckham etc.

Probably more.

*New Manchester United manager GSC enters Carrington to meet the players. 

Gsc: Hi I'm GSC the new manager of United 
Cantona: Never heard of you my son 
Beckham: ok

If you managed United the players would laugh at you , imagine what happend to Moyes it'd be a trillion times worse. You need to have the biggest balls ever to manager United. Sir Alex made those players who they became.
SAF came from Aberdeen, nobody had heard of him either
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:55 pm

Just hit the 50 mark, I'm expecting a tweet from the official v2 account on me reaching the top 20 posters.
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:55 pm

I hope I get an assist
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Post by Holymiky Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:56 pm

Have you been to the quiz and games section Viva? That can get you some post count if someone posts after you a lot.

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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:56 pm

I support the English teams in Europe, always have. I don't have actual beef with any of the regulars to be fair. I doubt I cared much for Spurs when they were in it.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:56 pm

GSC wrote:
Koba wrote:
GSC wrote:I could win a couple of CL titles managing the likes Ronaldo, Keane, Cantona, Ferdinand, Vidic, Giggs, Beckham etc.

Probably more.

*New Manchester United manager GSC enters Carrington to meet the players. 

Gsc: Hi I'm GSC the new manager of United 
Cantona: Never heard of you my son 
Beckham: ok

If you managed United the players would laugh at you , imagine what happend to Moyes it'd be a trillion times worse. You need to have the biggest balls ever to manager United. Sir Alex made those players who they became.
SAF came from Aberdeen, nobody had heard of him either

Clueless typical English bias, I bet you've never heard of Ibrahimovic or any player to play outside England. Ask Rangers, Celtic, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich about the Aberdeen Sir Alex, they shake in fear when they hear the name.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 1:57 pm

I have Miky but it's boring. I'll stick here. 

Sir Alex improved English Football no other manager has done that maybe Wenger to some extent.
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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:02 pm

Koba wrote:I have Miky but it's boring. I'll stick here. 

Sir Alex improved English Football no other manager has done that maybe Wenger to some extent.

Wenger did more than Ferguson to change the ethos and culture of English football. Fergie adapted to the new style but Wenger preached it.

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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:02 pm

Theres a difference between world class players like Ibra and irrelevant leagues like Scotland or Zimbabwe
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:06 pm

sodhat wrote:
Koba wrote:I have Miky but it's boring. I'll stick here. 

Sir Alex improved English Football no other manager has done that maybe Wenger to some extent.

Wenger did more than Ferguson to change the ethos and culture of English football. Fergie adapted to the new style but Wenger preached it.


The drinking culture and the diets I'll give it to Wenger. Ferguson has done more for English Football than all the other English managers combined, I'd be embarrassed I wouldn't call myself a manager. If Sir Alex didn't join United, the state of the English game would be about 15/20 years behind what it currently ism.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:08 pm

GSC wrote:Theres a difference between world class players like Ibra and irrelevant leagues like Scotland or Zimbabwe

Arrogance at its finest, ask any English team if they wanted to face Aberdeen during Sir Alexs time and they would have pooed their Y fronts.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:10 pm

Sir Alex Ferguson IMO is the greatest human to have ever lived. When he passes away it'll be the darkest day ever in the history of this universe let alone Planet.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:15 pm

This debate is now over.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:15 pm

Mighty have you played Rayman on the ps4?
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:19 pm

The reason why I asked is because that's the next game I'll be getting from the rental site I use is Rayman. 

Just had a look at ign they gave it 9.5 out of 10
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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:22 pm

58 posts from Viva so far today...

But it will count for nothing if you resort to spamming. So far I think you're alright.

I have a work function next week. Reckon I can get any sweet work tail? It's a Tuesday night so it'd be a hell of a feat.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:29 pm

U could have posted spam all day but that doesn't count. I'm going for quality over quantity. 

Do I think you can? Yes. 
Do I think you will?  No. 

Please tell me how you get on, if you wear a tuxedo I reckon you'll get some.
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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:34 pm

I'll be wearing my best threads just in case.

I wore a slim fit suit to my sister's wedding and it was so tight around my legs that sitting became a chore. I have about 80% of my body mass in my legs, which are randomly massive beneath a relatively scrawny upper body.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:38 pm

What's the best clothes you own? Didn't you find anyone at the wedding?
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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:42 pm

I went to the wedding with my girlfriend Laugh

I don't have best clothes. I'm very simple in style so at work it's a suit. At home it's a t-shirt and jeans. Boom, easy.

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Post by Afro Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:44 pm

Koba wrote:
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Koba wrote:I have Miky but it's boring. I'll stick here. 

Sir Alex improved English Football no other manager has done that maybe Wenger to some extent.

Wenger did more than Ferguson to change the ethos and culture of English football. Fergie adapted to the new style but Wenger preached it.


The drinking culture and the diets I'll give it to Wenger. Ferguson has done more for English Football than all the other English managers combined, I'd be embarrassed I wouldn't call myself a manager. If Sir Alex didn't join United, the state of the English game would be about 15/20 years behind what it currently ism.


Whilst I agree that SAF is the greatest British manager of all time, undeniably the most successful and taking Aberdeen to 2 European trophies is perhaps his greatest ever achievement, I do not really understand where or how he has significantly changed the British game.

That’s not a WUM. That’s a genuine question.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:49 pm

I know you're not wumming Afro but it's clear to see the English game has improved with Sir Alex managing in England. 

Half of the foreign managers wouldn't manage in England because of him same for the players, ideas, changes, plans, training, Sir Alex has done a lot and every single manager follows his style. If there was no Air Alex you'd see the difference..
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:50 pm

That girl is History, if I'm honest I think you were too good for her anyway.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:51 pm

So that time you said Paisley is the greatest British manager ever, you were wumming? 

What makes me not think that you're not wumming about Sir Alexs mark on the English game.
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:54 pm

Stat padding Vivas posts aside, I'd certainly have to credit Wenger proving a continental style could succeed in our game for that more than SAF, who tended to do things much better than everyone else than a great revolutionist
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Post by Afro Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:54 pm

Koba wrote:I know you're not wumming Afro but it's clear to see the English game has improved with Sir Alex managing in England. 

Half of the foreign managers wouldn't manage in England because of him same for the players, ideas, changes, plans, training, Sir Alex has done a lot and every single manager follows his style. If there was no Air Alex you'd see the difference..

It genuinely isn't clear to me. He was highly successful, but I couldn't pick anything that I would say was different because of SAF.

For me, he managed in a very British way.

I could easily be wrong about what he has done behind closed doors, but I don't think it is clear if he has and certainly wouldn't be in his legacy for me
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Post by Afro Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:55 pm

Koba wrote:So that time you said Paisley is the greatest British manager ever, you were wumming? 

What makes me not think that you're not wumming about Sir Alexs mark on the English game.

Did I say that. I must have been wumming.

I agree with GSC. He was just better than everyone else, rather than being revolutionary
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 2:59 pm

So Harry says Taarabts overweight, Taarabt posts a photo of him not overweight and Harry responds by saying he had tonsillitis.

Someone QPR are a bigger joke than last time
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:00 pm

Because Wengers French he brings a continental feel to England? Wenger takes a lot of credit due to being foreign, if he was British he wouldn't be managing Arsenal today. We tend to downgrade or underestimate our own but big up and running exaggerate on foreigners, same for players too. 

Ferguson did it his way.
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:00 pm

And similarly you could say the same thing about Mourinho, whereas Pep was certainly responsible for bringing in Tiki Taka on a world stage.
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:04 pm

Wenger won with his passing style, proving that style which was more popular in Europe than here was viable in a physical league. While I'm hardly suggesting Ferguson played route 1, I'm not sure United were night and day with regards to the style of the rest of the PL
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Post by Afro Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:07 pm

Koba wrote:Because Wengers French he brings a continental feel to England? Wenger takes a lot of credit due to being foreign, if he was British he wouldn't be managing Arsenal today. We tend to downgrade or underestimate our own but big up and running exaggerate on foreigners, same for players too. 

Ferguson did it his way.

Wenger was bound to bring a French way of playing. He is French.

What he did though was prove it would work here and bring many of the continental practices into the English game.

It was inevitable, because that is what he knew best, but he did it all the same.

Likewise SAF did it best his way. What I don't see is SAF's way being revolutionary to English football> It was taking a British approach and doing it much better than anyone else as far as I can see
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:08 pm

Changing the subject slightly. 

You see how you mentioned Arsenals Football, they're known as the best football playing side in England. When Cazorla joined Arsenal he said Arsenal play a lot of long ball compared to what he is used to. He came from Malaga, I still think about that comment sometimes. We seem to think Arsenal play continental football which they do but maybe not to the level we think, after all despite everything they're still a British team.
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Post by sodhat Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:08 pm

How much tactical input did Ferguson have?

It always seemed to me that he had a number 2 to do a lot of the tactical thinking and he managed the players and the club.

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Post by Afro Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:09 pm

sodhat wrote:How much tactical input did Ferguson have?

It always seemed to me that he had a number 2 to do a lot of the tactical thinking and he managed the players and the club.

I think in the early days SAF was more hands on tbh. It was in the latter years where he stayed up stairs and had coaches do the coaching
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 3:18 pm

Why do other British managers follow Sir Alex it's because he took our British Football, mixed it with his recipe and created something new.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 21 Oct 2014, 4:18 pm

Who's up for a deal?
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