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Barbarians v Australia, 1 November
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Barbarians v Australia
For the Killick Cup
Twickenham Stadium
1 November 2014
KO: 14:30
Live on Sky Sports 2 HD
Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant referees: JP Doyle (England), Gregory Garner (England)
Television match official: Rowan Kitt (England)
Timekeeper: Roy Marfleet (England)
Assessor: Stephen Leyshon (England)
1. Barbarians
Coach: John Kirwan
15 Tim Nanai Williams (Chiefs)
14 Frank Halai (Blues/NZ)
13 Juan de Jongh (Stormers/RSA)
12 Francis Saili (Blues/NZ)
11 Nick Cummins (West Red Sparks/Aus)
10 Colin Slade (Crusaders/NZ)
9 Tomas Cubelli (Belgrano/Arg)
1 Matt Stevens (Sharks/Eng)
2 James Parsons (Blues)
3 Angus Ta’avao (Blues)
4 Dominic Bird (Canterbury/NZ)
5 Alastair Kellock (Glasgow/Sco) (c)
6 Adam Thomson (Eagles/NZ)
7 Matt Todd (Crusaders/NZ)
8 Steven Luatua (Blues/NZ)
16 Mahonri Schwalger (Chiefs/Samoa)
17 Thomas Du Toit (Sharks)
18 Lourens Adriaanse (Sharks)
19 Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs/RSA)
20 Matias Alemanno (La Tablada/Arg)
21 Sarel Pretorius (Cheetahs)
22 Joaquin Tuculet (Grenoble/Arg)
23 Marnitz Boshoff (Golden Lions/RSA)
2. Australia
Coach: Michael Cheika
1. Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs)
2. Saia Fainga'a (Queensland Reds)
3. Ben Alexander (ACT Brumbies)
4. Sam Carter (ACT Brumbies)
5. James Horwill (Queensland Reds)
6. Scott Higginbotham (Melbourne Rebels)
7. Matt Hodgson (Western Force)
8. Ben McCalman (Western Force)
9. Will Genia (Queensland Reds)
10. Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds)
11. Rob Horne (NSW Waratahs)
12. Matt Toomua (ACT Brumbies)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (ACT Brumbies)
14. Henry Speight (ACT Brumbies)
15. Israel Folau (NSW Waratahs)
Reserves*
James Hanson (Queensland Reds)
James Slipper (Queensland Reds)
Sekope Kepu (NSW Waratahs)
Will Skelton (NSW Waratahs)
Sean McMahon (Melbourne Rebels)
Nic White (ACT Brumbies)
Bernard Foley (NSW Waratahs)
Christian Leali'ifano (ACT Brumbies)
Joe Tomane (ACT Brumbies)
*One to be omitted
Barbarians v Australia
For the Killick Cup
Twickenham Stadium
1 November 2014
KO: 14:30
Live on Sky Sports 2 HD
Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant referees: JP Doyle (England), Gregory Garner (England)
Television match official: Rowan Kitt (England)
Timekeeper: Roy Marfleet (England)
Assessor: Stephen Leyshon (England)
1. Barbarians
Coach: John Kirwan
15 Tim Nanai Williams (Chiefs)
14 Frank Halai (Blues/NZ)
13 Juan de Jongh (Stormers/RSA)
12 Francis Saili (Blues/NZ)
11 Nick Cummins (West Red Sparks/Aus)
10 Colin Slade (Crusaders/NZ)
9 Tomas Cubelli (Belgrano/Arg)
1 Matt Stevens (Sharks/Eng)
2 James Parsons (Blues)
3 Angus Ta’avao (Blues)
4 Dominic Bird (Canterbury/NZ)
5 Alastair Kellock (Glasgow/Sco) (c)
6 Adam Thomson (Eagles/NZ)
7 Matt Todd (Crusaders/NZ)
8 Steven Luatua (Blues/NZ)
16 Mahonri Schwalger (Chiefs/Samoa)
17 Thomas Du Toit (Sharks)
18 Lourens Adriaanse (Sharks)
19 Heinrich Brussow (Cheetahs/RSA)
20 Matias Alemanno (La Tablada/Arg)
21 Sarel Pretorius (Cheetahs)
22 Joaquin Tuculet (Grenoble/Arg)
23 Marnitz Boshoff (Golden Lions/RSA)
2. Australia
Coach: Michael Cheika
1. Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs)
2. Saia Fainga'a (Queensland Reds)
3. Ben Alexander (ACT Brumbies)
4. Sam Carter (ACT Brumbies)
5. James Horwill (Queensland Reds)
6. Scott Higginbotham (Melbourne Rebels)
7. Matt Hodgson (Western Force)
8. Ben McCalman (Western Force)
9. Will Genia (Queensland Reds)
10. Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds)
11. Rob Horne (NSW Waratahs)
12. Matt Toomua (ACT Brumbies)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (ACT Brumbies)
14. Henry Speight (ACT Brumbies)
15. Israel Folau (NSW Waratahs)
Reserves*
James Hanson (Queensland Reds)
James Slipper (Queensland Reds)
Sekope Kepu (NSW Waratahs)
Will Skelton (NSW Waratahs)
Sean McMahon (Melbourne Rebels)
Nic White (ACT Brumbies)
Bernard Foley (NSW Waratahs)
Christian Leali'ifano (ACT Brumbies)
Joe Tomane (ACT Brumbies)
*One to be omitted
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Re: Barbarians v Australia, 1 November
TobyBryant wrote:Oh that last Bb try pips the "try from the end of the world". Fantastic.
Not quite that good....
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Real quality at holding onto ball considering they have only been together a week
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Come on the baa baas!
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Ooooooh, so close,
They almost did it,
What a finish
They almost did it,
What a finish
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Great stuff to watch
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If the baabaas play like that every time I can't see it dying.
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Re: Barbarians v Australia, 1 November
Why would the baabass ever go? Whats the point in not having the baabass?
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Well that what I feel.LeinsterFan4life wrote:Why would the baabass ever go? Whats the point in not having the baabass?
But people were complaining about the recent performances and the need of it.
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Why would the baabass ever go? Whats the point in not having the baabass?
It has been said by some that the likes of the Baa Baas and the Lions have no place in the Pro era which is a shame as for me they both still do. That said I don't think the Baa Baas are the draw they once were, when it was basically a Lions side plus few youngsters and the traditional uncapped player.
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Ye Welly I always see people saying that there is no room for the Barbarians in pro rugby.
But seriously what is the point in NOT having them around? Especially if they can still pull 50k in to a stadium.
But seriously what is the point in NOT having them around? Especially if they can still pull 50k in to a stadium.
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Great game... Brilliant entertainment. Both sides entered with the right spirit..!
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People say that it is an extra game on an already overloaded season,
But if the Baabaas keep playing like that and being competitive and inventive then they will always have a place.
But if the Baabaas keep playing like that and being competitive and inventive then they will always have a place.
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Ye Welly I always see people saying that there is no room for the Barbarians in pro rugby.
But seriously what is the point in NOT having them around? Especially if they can still pull 50k in to a stadium.
The barbarians exemplify rugby union, they are the games greatest club and the soul of what our sport is really about.
You would be absolutely mad to even consider them worthless.
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+1,000. How many international quality games can you see where a number of nations have skin in the game? It's a game played for the love of it. What's not to like? What the smeg do people want for nothing?maestegmafia wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Ye Welly I always see people saying that there is no room for the Barbarians in pro rugby.
But seriously what is the point in NOT having them around? Especially if they can still pull 50k in to a stadium.
The barbarians exemplify rugby union, they are the games greatest club and the soul of what our sport is really about.
You would be absolutely mad to even consider them worthless.
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George Carlin wrote:+1,000. How many international quality games can you see where a number of nations have skin in the game? It's a game played for the love of it. What's not to like? What the smeg do people want for nothing?maestegmafia wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Ye Welly I always see people saying that there is no room for the Barbarians in pro rugby.
But seriously what is the point in NOT having them around? Especially if they can still pull 50k in to a stadium.
The barbarians exemplify rugby union, they are the games greatest club and the soul of what our sport is really about.
You would be absolutely mad to even consider them worthless.
Or club games...!
The game used to be very much about self expression, the professional era has diminished that some what. But anyone who values cynical professionalism over great rugby does not understand anything about rugby union in my opinion.
Today was a great example of the real values of sport, fun, adventure, team work, expression of skill and most importantly spreading the joy of a great game to make new friends from all back grounds.
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Honey badger absolute legend
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BamBam wrote:Honey badger absolute legend
Bloody oath mate
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wales606 wrote:TobyBryant wrote:Oh that last Bb try pips the "try from the end of the world". Fantastic.
Not quite that good....
It was y'know.
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That must be a relief for Michael Cheika, to get that game out of the way and get a Wallaby win, Australias first win outside of Australia for quite some time, I wish him all the best.
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fun wasn't it Laurie. For a scratch team with a few non test capped players I'd be a little concerned if I were Cheika but of the occasion I'm glad JK was coach for this one. He'll always put expression of attack in some form first.aucklandlaurie wrote:
That must be a relief for Michael Cheika, to get that game out of the way and get a Wallaby win, Australias first win outside of Australia for quite some time, I wish him all the best.
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And Andy Hayden as manager. He was easy to spot as he still has that habit of falling over side ways for no reason...
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Great advert for the game. No rigidity in the play, experimental at times, flowing attacking rugby and plenty of big hits.
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maestegmafia wrote:And Andy Hayden as manager. He was easy to spot as he still has that habit of falling over side ways for no reason...
Three words.
Let. it. Go.
Hayden's dive didn't milk a penalty, it was illegal holding down in the line out. Disgusted to hear the English commentators spinning the old myth.
I thought the Baa Baas fell apart when most the kiwi back row went off.
Incredible that NZ fielded effectively three international sides today, and came so close to winning all three.
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wales606 wrote:TobyBryant wrote:Oh that last Bb try pips the "try from the end of the world". Fantastic.
Not quite that good....
And nowhere near 'that try' from theBaabaas in 1973. NZ were chasing shadows.
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TobyBryant wrote:maestegmafia wrote:And Andy Hayden as manager. He was easy to spot as he still has that habit of falling over side ways for no reason...
Three words.
Let. it. Go.
Hayden's dive didn't milk a penalty, it was illegal holding down in the line out. Disgusted to hear the English commentators spinning the old myth.
I thought the Baa Baas fell apart when most the kiwi back row went off.
Incredible that NZ fielded effectively three international sides today, and came so close to winning all three.
Post rationalised BS...
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4iOOjOWL4
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Yes, clear penalty. Thanks for posting the evidence.
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TobyBryant wrote:maestegmafia wrote:And Andy Hayden as manager. He was easy to spot as he still has that habit of falling over side ways for no reason...
Three words.
Let. it. Go.
Hayden's dive didn't milk a penalty, it was illegal holding down in the line out. Disgusted to hear the English commentators spinning the old myth.
I thought the Baa Baas fell apart when most the kiwi back row went off.
Incredible that NZ fielded effectively three international sides today, and came so close to winning all three.
Funny that , I thought you didn't see much highlights from days gone by. So how do you know so much for a game you can't have seen? I smell a ghostly rat
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To be fair the link to the highlight is above. And as I've said on the thread you reference, a handful of incidents are well rehashed and known ad nauseum. I was hoping to break through the collection of cliches and get a conversation about something other than various individuals shoulder chips going on - but obviously the blinkers are nailed on.
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So you don't think two men jumping out of a line out to win a penalty, in the same way a soccer player would dive in the penalty box, is cheating...?
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I think the first four words of your post covered it quite well.maestegmafia wrote:So you don't think two men jumping out of a line out to win a penalty, in the same way a soccer player would dive in the penalty box, is cheating...?
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maestegmafia wrote:So you don't think two men jumping out of a line out to win a penalty, in the same way a soccer player would dive in the penalty box, is cheating...?
Firstly I'd say yes it is, but also that suggesting all sporting victories are achieved ethically is outrageously naive and finally that your argument is a straw man since s line out dive was not what the penalty was awarded for in the case under scrutiny.
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https://twitter.com/alistairsanzar/status/529036270068969472
Well this is embarrassing.
Well this is embarrassing.
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/30801044-419/all-blacks-rout-us-rugby-team-at-sold-out-soldier-field.html#.VFa9RabfXCQ
Looks like all that PR was money well spent... The ARU may be saved after all!
Looks like all that PR was money well spent... The ARU may be saved after all!
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Exiledinborders wrote:I think the first four words of your post covered it quite well.maestegmafia wrote:So you don't think two men jumping out of a line out to win a penalty, in the same way a soccer player would dive in the penalty box, is cheating...?
Very true.
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If it had said "Fijian" instead of "Aussie", then I would have understood.TobyBryant wrote:https://twitter.com/alistairsanzar/status/529036270068969472
Well this is embarrassing.
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Sorry I don't understand?
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Yep, a good win for the Australian All Blacks.
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I did hear one of the US commentary team mention that The blacks had rested some of their top talent such as Folau. However we also saw confusion reign during the Baa Baas game when the British commentary team repeatedly called the honey badger in possession for Australia. I guess with so many antipodeans playing in so many test matches in one day a little confusion amongst the less enlightened is expected.
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TobyBryant wrote:I did hear one of the US commentary team mention that The blacks had rested some of their top talent such as Folau. However we also saw confusion reign during the Baa Baas game when the British commentary team repeatedly called the honey badger in possession for Australia. I guess with so many antipodeans playing in so many test matches in one day a little confusion amongst the less enlightened is expected.
You needn't worry too much, mate. The Yanks have really short attention spans.
I bet you a Steamer that they would have forgotten about that little faux paw already. They have Plenty of other sports to worry about.
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Nothing beats the Fiji v Scotland match last year where the local commentator earnestly told everyone that Al Kellock played for "the Glasgow Rangers".
At least the US commentators reached for the correct sport.
At least the US commentators reached for the correct sport.
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George Carlin wrote:Nothing beats the Fiji v Scotland match last year where the local commentator earnestly told everyone that Al Kellock played for "the Glasgow Rangers".
At least the US commentators reached for the correct sport.
I didn't realise he had left the Glasgow Giants, George.
I thought the Edinburgh Indians were chasing him?
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The Loaded Dog wrote:George Carlin wrote:Nothing beats the Fiji v Scotland match last year where the local commentator earnestly told everyone that Al Kellock played for "the Glasgow Rangers".
At least the US commentators reached for the correct sport.
I didn't realise he had left the Glasgow Giants, George.
I thought the Edinburgh Indians were chasing him?
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