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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:39 am

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Breaking News: Exciting weekend of rugby with two thrilling 24 all draws while Saints unbeaten run came to an end at the Allianz
 


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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:06 am

Team of the week. Nails on Thomas pretty well I think.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:21 am

Anybody got any hookers available? (if you'll pardon the pun)

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:55 pm

Farrel will start at 12
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:00 pm

Farrell at 12 with Barritt at 13 provides zero running threat and about as much inspiration.
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:02 pm

And Barritt at 13 as well I think Mat.

Can see the logic in putting Ford and Farrell together, as they struck up a successful partnership through the age groups, but Ford and Eastmond have been playing so well together at Bath. Guess together they'd be too small a combination for an international game.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:06 pm

I'll be glad when these AI's are over and I can stick my best side out in this game!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:11 pm

That would be one of the worst centre combo's put out in years.

I'd be tempted with Farrell at 12 over Eastmond but you surely need some pace at 13??

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Post by Fluxy Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:35 pm

The only player I would consider outside Faz at 12 at the moment would be Joseph.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:48 pm

Thing is with Ford's passing game he will bring a lot more out of his backline and bring the wingers into it more as he likes to play a much more expansive game - when Farrell plays at no12 he is actually far more creative as well.

Barritt at 13 does baffle me a bit, great defender but the 13 shirt is where you want an attacking player who can either get over the gainline or be a creative spark - he's neither. Joseph deserved to be in the squad and he must be really p'd off that Twelvetrees is there when Lancaster has made such a big deal about form - is there an actual no13 in the squad he's picked for the game?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:21 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Thing is with Ford's passing game he will bring a lot more out of his backline and bring the wingers into it more as he likes to play a much more expansive game - when Farrell plays at no12 he is actually far more creative as well.

Barritt at 13 does baffle me a bit, great defender but the 13 shirt is where you want an attacking player who can either get over the gainline or be a creative spark - he's neither. Joseph deserved to be in the squad and he must be really p'd off that Twelvetrees is there when Lancaster has made such a big deal about form - is there an actual no13 in the squad he's picked for the game?

Not sure that it will in all honesty. Neither Farrell nor Barritt are really going to continually get us over the gain line in midfield, which means even if the ball does get out to our wingers they are going to be on the back foot and easily marked. Joseph is very unlucky to miss out as he is the form 13 right now, and it doesn't send a great message to him that Lancaster is going to shove a square peg in a round hole by playing a 12 there.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:21 pm

Farrell has a passing game?!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:29 pm

For me there are a fair few England players who need a bit of a kick up the backside as it would appear that some look undroppable right now however they play. Farrell has been very poor, so rather than leave him out he gets a chance in another jersey. Poor message to send out.

15. Anthony Watson
14. Semisa Rokadoguni
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Kyle Eastmond
11. Marland Yarde
10. George Ford
9. Ben Youngs

and take the game to them. All out attack and give these guys the opportunity to stake a claim for the jersey. I want to see us play some rugby, and with Farrell and Barritt in the centres it will be like watching paint dry!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:35 pm

I just couldn't see that midfield working Pete, it's very unphysical.

Matt seems to think you don't drop players after a few bad games and no Int manager does? Seems SL is following this tbh.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:44 pm

I agree it lacks physicality Pooly, but what are the options? There are no other proper 13's available so the change would have to be at 12.

Farrell? Barritt? Twelvetrees? None of them inspire me right now. I would like to see Burrell given a go there, but unsure what his fitness status is for this one.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:49 pm

My midfield for the next game would be:

12. Burrell 13. Joseph

I'd discard Eastmond and have Farrell on the bench covering 10/12.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:50 pm

Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 George North, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Rhys Webb, 8 Taulupe Faletau, 7 Sam Warburton (c), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Alun Wyn Jones, 4 Jake Ball, 3 Samson Lee, 2 Richard Hibbard, 1 Paul James.

Replacements: 16 Scott Baldwin , 17 Nicky Smith, 18 Rhodri Jones, 19 Luke Charteris , 20 Justin Tipuric, 21 Mike Phillips, 22 James Hook, 23 Liam Williams.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:51 pm

Burrell and Joseph could work well, so long as Burrell remembers to distribute a bit more than he does on occasions.
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Post by Driver Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:54 pm

SAM BURGUSS


INSIDE CENTRE
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:02 pm

Burgess hasn't even played a game of union, he can't be considered for a while yet. Ford keeps suggesting he'll play in the backrow which could mean:

6. Burgess
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan/Vuinipola

Burrell has been the best 12 in England for 2 seasons or so, he has to given a shot there.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:03 pm

I agree Burrell needs a chance there, and also agree that until Burgess has had a run of games for Bath and can be assessed he should be nowhere near an England jersey.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:05 pm

The 28 man squad announced doesn't include Roko or Joseph.

I hope Burrell gets a go at 13 outside Eastmond and Ford myself. Barritt stinks of damage limitation and worrying about what the opposition are going to do to us. I can understand that with NZ and SA and maybe even Oz with Kuridrani in such destructive form, but against Samoa its a touch embarrassing for me.

I have to confess with Farrell struggling with injury/form whatever you want to put it down to, I am uncomfortable with Farrell Sr being in the coaching set up. Not something I like.

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:08 pm

I'm pretty sure Burgess will play 12 , That's our problem position. The RFU won't have splashed that much cash on someone to cover Tom Wood.

If it was up too me i'd roll with Eastmond and Burrell for the Samoa game.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:10 pm

The RFU didn't contribute to him coming to Union.

Every time Ford is questioned on Burgess he states/hints he'll play in the backrow.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:11 pm

Have the RFU splashed any cash though Driver? My understanding is that it's all come out of Bruce Craig's pocket. Also we seem to have a shed load of 12's, so much so that we are playing them at 13 as well.

Barritt is definitely a damage limitation option Steve, and you are right, we should certainly be making Samoa worry about us and not the other way round, and if we really want to be the best, then that should be the case whoever we play against.
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Post by Driver Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:17 pm

I thought they had but it turns out Craig has payed the full wack, I'd much rather see Sam play in the backs though. 

He's got good feet , good offload and hits gaps before the man.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 pm

I can't see why Bath would need him to play 12 with Devoto & Eastmond.

The RFU didn't contribute anything to his transfer, how could they really? Imagine the outrage from teams like Falcons/Irish. Why are they helping Bath and not us?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:20 pm

Will be interesting to see where he does end up playing. 6 would appear most likely in the short term, perhaps moving to 8 when he has learnt a bit and has more of a feel for union.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:23 pm

Although difficult to learn I think backrow is where he can make the most impact. He's not the quickest but has a high work rate, tackles his heart out (although not legally) and carries hard.

You want him involved in the game and backrow is the obvious choice for me. Our 12's probably touch the ball about 5 times a game and make about 3 tackles.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:25 pm

Agree he needs to be in the game. I can see him giving away lots of penalties early on, as his tackling technique will require work, as will his clearing at rucks. I'll be surprised if he gets anywhere near this world cup.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:30 pm

I tend to agree Pete but he's a unique specimen, he could be interesting off the bench but that would mean losing Morgan who's been outstanding of late.

It's a really steep learning curve, I can only compare him to SBW and it took him 2/3 years to make an impact.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:33 pm

He is definitely a bit of a freak of nature and I want him to do well, but it won't be an easy transition. I just want to see him play now, but I can't see Bath throwing him into any meaningful game just yet unless they are struggling for numbers due to injuries and call ups.
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:33 pm

Farrell is a decent number 12, plays a different sort of game there as doesn't have to make all the decisions. Prefer him to Twelvetrees there. Is a massive issue for us though.

Issue with Eastmond is that he has no kicking game, at AP this doesnt really matter as get more time on the ball, but next step up its an issue for him and he isn't big enough to be used as a carrier to get us out of trouble.

Think I'd prefer Ford, Barritt and Joseph - at least we have two attacking players there.

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Post by Driver Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:35 pm

He's an absolute freak of nature , could be a wrecking ball for us.

Anyone watching Stalkers on Sky Living? Only two episodes in and it's a pretty good watch.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:36 pm

I'd prefer that too Chris.

I have a similar issue with Eastmond, he's very easy to read. He has quick feet but does't get in the positions to use them at this level. He made one break and dropped the ball in their 22, that's not good enough for me. He's a great AP player but just isn't cutting the mustard against the best.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:37 pm

I can see us not getting out of the pool at the world cup. Sad
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:38 pm

If Burgess gets the nod at no12 for Bath he could make the England team, no chance if he's played in the backrow. Can see them moving Eastmond out wider at Bath to accomodate him, sure he started off as a winger and he can step in at first receiver still there - Ford, Roko, Burgess, Joseph, Eastmond, Watson is quite a backline potentially.

England need gainline breakers or people that opposition will be scared of - you see opposition players always say they prefer to play England when Tuilagi isn't there - I don't think there is any other back that we have you can say that about right now. Youngs looks as though he is coming back into form and we need that massively.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:40 pm

Ford doesn't seem to think he'll play centre though Chris.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:42 pm

Manu has presence, and puts doubt into the opposition. Whilst at times he does fail to get the ball any further out than him, he usually gets us over the gainline so we at least have momentum when the ball is recycled. We miss him massively when he's injured.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:44 pm

Agree Pete, he's not ideal but has the physicality we need. If he could develop more of a passing/offloading game he'd be world class. This AI could have been great for him to develop.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:55 pm

Interesting opinion from Charlie Hodgson on Farrell moving to 12:

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9568622,00.html?

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:07 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I just couldn't see that midfield working Pete, it's very unphysical.

Matt seems to think you don't drop players after a few bad games and no Int manager does? Seems SL is following this tbh.

My case is you don't drop players after one bad game in a sun newspaper kind of way. Players need to feel comfortable.

As I said its a balancing act. Eastmond has done enough to keep his place Farrell has not and also looks out of form. May has done enough to see out the AI's and dropping Watson after 1 game would be ludicrous. 

However as it's a pretty unimportant game we could see Lancaster experiment and if so it's the right game to so so. 

If however there is a very different side for the Aussie game then Lancaster is admitting he is clueless and grasping at straws.

Always said Lancaster would be a disaster and I think we are now seeing his massive limitations. 

I am sure we We will do well at the next World Cup but it will be very little to do with him. We have some great players and depth and are making a hash of it some how

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:51 pm

Squad:

Joe Marler, Matt Mullan, Dylan Hartley, Rob Webber, Kieran Brookes, David Wilson, Dave Attwood, Courtney Lawes, George Kruis, James Haskell, Ben Morgan, Chris Robshaw, Tom Wood.
Richard Wigglesworth, Ben Youngs, Owen Farrell, George Ford, Brad Barritt, Billy Twelvetrees, Mike Brown, Jonny May, Anthony Watson, Marland Yarde.

Care dropping out the big news and no Eastmond thank god.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:55 am

Thats my EQ for this week massively boosted Very Happy

Eastmond still going through the return to play protocols and hasn't done any training yet this week. He will be back in next week. Would of expected Burrell to be given the shot over 36 this week though who isn't in the best of form.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:57 am

No outside centre in the 23. Square peg in round hole it is. Utterly shambolic.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:15 am

At least Burrell can play there to some effect.

I'd seriously consider discarding Eastmond, I'm really not getting him.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:31 am

Burrell not named in the squad? Not overly looking forward to the 12. Farrell 13. Barrett combo we are surely going to get. Hopefully Ford makes a real go of it at 10 though need a big improvement before the Oz game. Was hoping to see Ford/Eastmond get a go together for this one but the concussion saw an end to that.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:34 am

Sorry I thought Burrell made it

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:44 am

"Kyle has not been able to train due to the Graduated Return To Play protocol and will return to Bath to continue that process and hopefully he should be available for his club this weekend along with the other released players."

Can play for bath but not england ?

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:48 am

If he makes it through the protocols he might play for Bath but not guaranteed he will by the weekend. Won't have had any training time so will be bench at best for them.

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Post by Fluxy Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:30 am

Vermeulen to bath according to planetrugby!

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