Season 7 Homepage IV

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 04 Nov 2014, 8:39 pm

First topic message reminder :

Breaking News: Exciting weekend of rugby with two thrilling 24 all draws while Saints unbeaten run came to an end at the Allianz

Season 7 Homepage IV - Page 18 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Northampton Saints	9	8	0	1	255	216	39	28	19	5	1	38
2	Sale Sharks *	9	7	0	2	253	227	26	29	21	3	2	32
3	Harlequins *	9	5	2	2	254	230	24	27	22	2	2	27
4	Bath Rugby *	9	5	1	3	242	227	15	25	23	1	3	24
5	London Wasps *	9	5	1	3	241	236	5	24	25	1	2	24
6	Leicester Tigers	9	5	0	4	215	215	0	18	19	0	4	24
7	Exeter Chiefs *	9	3	4	2	220	224	-4	19	20	0	2	21
8	Saracens	9	3	1	5	216	233	-17	20	20	0	5	19
9	Gloucester	9	3	0	6	226	233	-7	20	21	0	5	17
10	London Welsh	9	3	0	6	215	234	-19	19	24	0	4	16
11	Newcastle Falcons *	9	1	1	7	207	241	-34	17	22	0	6	11
12	London Irish	9	0	2	7	215	247	-30	19	25	0	6	10

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage

Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

Open Window

Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Dec 2014, 1:34 pm

Haha...CJ's man love for Robshaw is quite well renowned.

I don't think he did Matt, he was around the breakdown area but I think 2 were called for Aus infringements rather the normal "not releasing". He certainly got one about 10mins in but his impact has been overrated imo.

by ChequeredJersey Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:05 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Wow, I watched the game this morning and hadn't realised that Robshaw won the game for us singlehandedly. I'm glad that it's been cleared up for me.

Not sure that tone is very necessary, Pete

by Guest Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:15 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Haha...CJ's man love for Robshaw is quite well renowned.

I don't think he did Matt, he was around the breakdown area but I think 2 were called for Aus infringements rather the normal "not releasing". He certainly got one about 10mins in but his impact has been overrated imo.

You are right I stand corrected. One of them near me was for their men leaving their feet/

by ChequeredJersey Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:19 pm

Of course Robshaw didn't win the game singlehandedly, nor was he our best player. But it's nice to see what he does acknowledged in the press, where there is still nonsensical fascination about him not being "a proper 7", being a journeyman and generally under appreciation

I like Robshaw, partially from Club bias, something absolutely none of you are remotely free from, but mostly because I think he is an excellent, still underrated player

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:28 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Haha...CJ's man love for Robshaw is quite well renowned.

I don't think he did Matt, he was around the breakdown area but I think 2 were called for Aus infringements rather the normal "not releasing". He certainly got one about 10mins in but his impact has been overrated imo.
You are right I stand corrected. One of them near me was for their men leaving their feet/

It's harder to see what pens are given for at the game, it's one of the few reasons I prefer TV coverage.

CJ, Robshaw is a quality player and getting better. I don't think that he's not a 7, I just don't think he's fetcher type 7. Either is Hooper really, there's not many around these days.

by Guest Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:31 pm

I think robshaw has grown as a player and is a warrior. Don't think he is a 7 and regard him in the same way I regard lancaster ie an honest trier but never going to be top class.

Improved out of sight but will never be near world class

by Guest Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:33 pm

Tv is better for seeing penalties and infringements.

On TV you can never see peoples poor positioning and its hard to see how good people's kicking game is as it never shows the whole pitch.

Live gives you perspective on a game and an awareness of how players see space but tv is great for the breakdown

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 02 Dec 2014, 3:59 pm

budgets and table up to date. Match thread will be up in next hour thumbsup

by Guest Tue 02 Dec 2014, 6:21 pm

Interesting he has gone public although I think everyone had seen he had been worked out http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wales-wing-alex-cuthberts-startling-8210642

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 02 Dec 2014, 7:07 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:Wow, I watched the game this morning and hadn't realised that Robshaw won the game for us singlehandedly. I'm glad that it's been cleared up for me.

Not sure that tone is very necessary, Pete

If there was any tone in my comment it wasn't directed at you CJ, it was at the author of that article. I detest pieces that essentially try to tell you what your opinion should be on any given topic. I watched the game and am capable of deciding for myself wjo I thought played well and how valuable any individuals contribution to the cause was. If that causes offence I apologise, it isn't intended to.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Dec 2014, 7:44 pm

Totally agree Pete, I hate being spoon fed opinions....just watch the game and make up your own!

Nobody is more right, just because a journo thinks something means little, you'll quite easily find another journo that thinks the opposite.

by ChequeredJersey Tue 02 Dec 2014, 7:46 pm

Sorry Ozzy, I was overreacting. As everyone seems to have noticed, this topic is one of my less rational "buttons"

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 02 Dec 2014, 8:04 pm

We all have those players mate, who we have an irrational loathing or love for. For what it's worth, I like Robshaw, and wanted him in the England set up as a 6 long before Lancaster made him captain. Similar to Mat though, I don't think he is a world class player, not will he ever become one, but he is a good standard international

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 02 Dec 2014, 10:06 pm

SJE, couple of questions. 1. When are the next load of injuries coming? & 2. When is the next foreign transfer window.

by ChequeredJersey Tue 02 Dec 2014, 10:36 pm

"Australia Front Row - Saying the Wallaby front row is rubbish is so trite it makes Miles Harrison's patter sound fresh and interesting. But their performance on Saturday was Poopie even by their standards, which given their usual standards is a level of Poopie not as yet mapped by all of human ingenuity."

http://www.bloodandmud.com/2014/12/Poopie-ratings-autumn-internationals-final-week.html#more

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:27 am

Anyone up for some dealing?

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:32 am

by Fluxy Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:36 am

of course

by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:47 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:SJE, couple of questions. 1. When are the next load of injuries coming? & 2. When is the next foreign transfer window.

Injuries will be somewhere between Round 10-12 and will take us through the 6 nations. Not giving the exact week to prevent any weakened match day squads devil

Foreign window will open the Monday before the 6 Nations start which is the 2nd of Feb. Will be two signings again same as last year. thumbsup

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 03 Dec 2014, 11:15 am

Cheers bud, looking to plan ahead.

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 8:04 pm

Another world 15. This one raises a few eyebrows

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11368554&ref=nzhs_tw

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 8:16 pm

Probably the worst one yet......Richie Gray picard

by dammit_chris Wed 03 Dec 2014, 8:21 pm

Nope Robshaw and Herrerra clearly the worlds best. I like that one haha

by ChequeredJersey Wed 03 Dec 2014, 8:28 pm

Robshaw the worlds best in a position he doesn't regularly play, even I'd shy away from that claim

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:12 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Probably the worst one yet......Richie Gray

As good as both Grays were in the AI's that is a dreadful selection.

Like the kurindrani distribution bit. They got that part right !!

Herrera has been best th in the world over The period of
AI's. Filled figallos shoes very well.

Robshaw at 6 is mystifying.

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:13 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Robshaw the worlds best in a position he doesn't regularly play, even I'd shy away from that claim

I thought you were the author of this one Whistle

by ChequeredJersey Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:16 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Robshaw the worlds best in a position he doesn't regularly play, even I'd shy away from that claim
I thought you were the author of this one

Clearly not, Mike Brown, Danny Care and Nev weren't in the side

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 9:27 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Probably the worst one yet......Richie Gray
As good as both Grays were in the AI's that is a dreadful selection.

Like the kurindrani distribution bit. They got that part right !!

Herrera has been best th in the world over The period of
AI's. Filled figallos shoes very well.

Robshaw at 6 is mystifying.

If an article feels the need to say it's improving would suggest it's not very good......

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:14 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Probably the worst one yet......Richie Gray
As good as both Grays were in the AI's that is a dreadful selection.

Like the kurindrani distribution bit. They got that part right !!

Herrera has been best th in the world over The period of
AI's. Filled figallos shoes very well.

Robshaw at 6 is mystifying.

If an article feels the need to say it's improving would suggest it's not very good......

Everyone can improve. Professional sport is all about improvement. You have to evolve. That's what makes the great players great.

Mccaw has improved so many aspects of his game and adapted as he has progressed same as any world class player.

Kurindrani has improved out of sight and is 23. Had a breakthrough season.
I always saw his promise but now has knitted it together. He has only been playing the game about
4 years.

I was playing against Ben smith a few years ago in a league that was way beneath me. He has improved out
Of sight in every aspect. He is decent defensively now which he was not.

You were always a cuthbert fan but I was not as saw his positioning, defence and also his attitude. He has not
Improved and been found out.

It's odd how people develop. Some
Players are at their best at a young age and don't improve whilst others grow as players and become exceptional
Later.
Wonder why it is? Suppose it comes easy to natural talents and they don't try as hard and then get overtaken by the diligent ones.

Cipriani was a star when young but did not
Work hard.
Got left behind and is only now he is showing his worth with another great season

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:15 pm

If someone could understand how people
Would develop then they would be rich.

So many players shine bright and then fade away. Glos have had millions

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:16 pm

Cuthbert may well come back by the way just needs to
Work out what to
Do

by LukeLovesLuka Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:28 pm

Cuthbert's got 4 tries in last 6 games. Could be worse. Not been playing great but always a threat and top finisher.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:33 pm

Cutbert is a fantastic finisher, I rate him highly. Both him and North had poor AI's though.

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:35 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Cuthbert's got 4 tries in last 6 games. Could be worse. Not been playing great but always a threat and top finisher.

He is decent with a sniff of the line like varndell etc.

Just an easy target defensively as he cant deal with kicks or people running at him.

Once you get worked out at int
Level it gets really exposed.

Fair play for him admitting it. Shows intelligence and he will probably work it out.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:36 pm

He's still a class act, all players go through a rough patch....look at Genia and his fall

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:37 pm

Honestly can't think of a pro sportsman who has been as candid as cuthbert and owned up that he has been worked out.

It seems to have got lost amongst the Hughes funeral coverage deservedly. That said it is a
Real oddity

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:38 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He's still a class act, all players go through a rough patch....look at Genia and his fall

Not a fall just an injury. Played whilst unfit and then had an op. Still
Not fit.

Needs a preseason

by LukeLovesLuka Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:39 pm

Comparing cuthbert and varndell is cracking lol.

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:40 pm

Despite both being poor vs England Phipps and foley are very much first choice for OZ

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:41 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Comparing cuthbert and varndell is cracking lol.

I meant as finishers.
Both exceptional with a sniff of the line.

Varndell is a real poacher as is cuthbert.

Chalk and cheese in how they finish tries but both effective

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:42 pm

Genia hasn't been injured for 2 years though. He's fully fit now but has been in awful form, similar situation to Ben Youngs I suppose but he's looking good again now.

by ChequeredJersey Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:44 pm

Except his passing...

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:45 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Despite both being poor vs England Phipps and foley are very much first choice for OZ

Neither were poor.

I thought they both done really well considering the platform they got. Phipps passing was slick and Foley ran a backline that basically outplayed is despite being on the back foot.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:46 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Except his passing...

He did throw some crackers lol. Not many box kick as well as Youngs though, he's always been pretty strong here.

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:52 pm

Genia is fully fit? His comeback games were
At int level.

You get fully fit with match fitness. He will be better for the games but needs a run. Scrum half about rhythm and games.

Genia played injured to help reds and then had op and came back with no games to bench for Australia as white was out of his depth. Should have left genia at home to get fit.

Phipps and foley had a great AI but think everyone would say the england game they struggled.

Foley scored a good try but was at sea before injury.

The way Australia can hide foley defensively now they have so many play makers means they can do the same with cooper.

Aussie defence organisation was slick. To be fair most 10s need hiding defensively but not possible
If you have nobody to step in
To 1st receiver.

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:54 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Except his passing...

He did throw some crackers lol. Not many box kick as well as Youngs though, he's always been pretty strong here.

His box kick was top
In this game. He does have issues
With managing a game
and gets put
Off easily.

His pass
Is poor

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:56 pm

Bernard Foley – Plenty of errors in a mixed first half display, but scored a very good try before limping off. 6
Nick Phipps – Not a good day for him. Was hounded at the breakdown and never got his game going. 5

by Guest Wed 03 Dec 2014, 10:57 pm

Foley toomua plus aussie backs is a great combo. Foley works well
With folau also. Smart player

by ChequeredJersey Wed 03 Dec 2014, 11:04 pm

Just wait till JOC comes back in, especially as he genuinely seems to have changed his spots

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 03 Dec 2014, 11:16 pm

You don't need to put a carefully selected score up, I watched the game. I thought they both played well.

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