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Post by sportform Fri 7 Nov - 3:04

So after three weeks and 18 games this competition heads for a sprint finish with just two games this weekend. England take on Australia while Wales play South Africa.

You can see the week 3 table and the overall leaderboard here:-
https://www.606v2.com/t56365-autumn-internationals-competition-week-3-leaderboard

To enter All you have to do is guess the score of each game. You gain points on how close you are and the game outcome. This weekend's fixtures are listed below. You can see the full rules in the spoiler below.

The rules are as follows:-
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The fixtures are:-

Saturday 29th November 2014
England v Australia
Wales v South Africa

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Post by sportform Fri 7 Nov - 3:08

Italy 13-23 Samoa
England 22-28 New Zealand
Wales 27-23 Australia
France 34-11 Fiji
Ireland 17-35 South Africa
Scotland 17-14 Argentina
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Post by mr-bryns-attitude Fri 7 Nov - 7:38

Italy 14-20 Samoa
England 18-28 new Zealand
wales 23-28 Australia
France 30-15 Fiji
Ireland 20-32 south Africa
Scotland 16-21 Argentina

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Post by alive555 Fri 7 Nov - 7:48

Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

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Post by bedfordwelsh Fri 7 Nov - 8:21

Italy 12-19 Samoa
England 21-33 New Zealand
Wales 28-25 Australia
France 26-15 Fiji
Ireland 18-32 South Africa
Scotland 21-15 Argentina
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Post by whocares Fri 7 Nov - 9:29

Italy 18-10 Samoa
England 15-28 New Zealand
Wales 18-25 Australia
France 28-12 Fiji
Ireland 21-18 South Africa
Scotland 15-15 Argentina


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Post by whocares Fri 7 Nov - 9:31

alive555 wrote:Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

warning Laugh


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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 9:33

whocares wrote:  
alive555 wrote:Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

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Now how should the Edinburgh supporters feel? Whistle
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Post by R!skysports Fri 7 Nov - 9:52

alive555 wrote:Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

Nice Wink Very Happy

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Post by R!skysports Fri 7 Nov - 9:54

Italy 12 v 25 Samoa
England 21 v 29 New Zealand
Wales 25 v 21 Australia
France 32 v 15 Fiji
Ireland 20 v 32 South Africa
Scotland 36 v 20 Argentina

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Post by SecretFly Fri 7 Nov - 9:56

Biltong wrote:
whocares wrote:  
alive555 wrote:Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

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Now how should the Edinburgh supporters feel? Whistle

Luckily they don't. They've been numb for a good number of seasons now.

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Post by GavinDragon Fri 7 Nov - 10:03

Italy 10-26 Samoa
England 18-27 New Zealand
Wales 19-25 Australia
France 35-18 Fiji
Ireland 15 - 28 South Africa
Scotland 20 - 30 Argentina

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 7 Nov - 10:07

Italy 15 Samoa 21
England 21 NZ 12
Wales 25 Oz 21
France 24 figi 9
Ire 14 SA 32
Scotland 15 Arg 14


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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 10:09

Mystir, I will be very surprised if England limit NZ to 12 points.
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Post by mystiroakey Fri 7 Nov - 10:11

So would most. But not me.

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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 10:16

If it rains heavily, and the conditions are very poor, I won't be surprised. Wink
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Post by RDW Fri 7 Nov - 10:29

Italy 12 - 21 Samoa
England 12 - 23 New Zealand
Wales 25- 27 Australia
France 32 - 15 Fiji
Ireland 16 - 28 South Africa
Scotland 25 - 18 Argentina Smile

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Post by whocares Fri 7 Nov - 11:27

looks like I am the only who picked an Italian win...is Samoa that good now? (I know Italy have not really progressed but they tend to offer some resistance at home at least)

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Post by RDW Fri 7 Nov - 11:29

Italy have regressed at an alarming rate over the past couple of years, and I'd say Samoa are the best Pacific island team - comfortably beating Scotland not that long ago (although that isn't overly difficult).

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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 11:30

Italy has only once beaten Samoa.

Last year in Nelspruit during the Quad tournament Samoa beat them 39-10

Earlier this year Samoa beat them 15-0
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Post by Majestic83 Fri 7 Nov - 11:39

Biltong wrote:
whocares wrote:  
alive555 wrote:Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

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Now how should the Edinburgh supporters feel? Whistle

relieved that we might see a team we can support do well for once and put in a decent performance.

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Post by Majestic83 Fri 7 Nov - 11:41

15 Italy v Samoa 32
16 England v New Zealand 29
24 Wales v Australia 31
27 France v Fiji 23
10 Ireland v South Africa 22
27 Scotland v Argentina 18

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN Fri 7 Nov - 11:55

Italy 14 - 19 Samoa
England 15 - 26 New Zealand
Wales 18- 27 Australia
France 34 - 7 Fiji
Ireland 16 - 28 South Africa
Scotland 17 - 12 Argentina

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 7 Nov - 12:01

I am the only one to go with an England win.

Well someone has to I suppose.


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Post by MMaaxx Fri 7 Nov - 12:02

Italy 14 - 19 Samoa
England 15 - 31 New Zealand
Wales 21- 29 Australia
France 34 - 7 Fiji
Ireland 16 - 25 South Africa
Scotland 12 - 17 Argentina

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Post by SecretFly Fri 7 Nov - 12:03

mystiroakey wrote:I am the only one to go with an England win.

Well someone has to I suppose.


I hear Lancaster and the boys are behind you too, mystir. So that's 24 of you at least

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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 12:05

SecretFly wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I am the only one to go with an England win.

Well someone has to I suppose.


I hear Lancaster and the boys are behind you too, mystir.  So that's 24 of you at least

Oh boy.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 7 Nov - 12:07

How do you know I am not a player or the legend SL himself?


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Post by whocares Fri 7 Nov - 12:08

Biltong wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I am the only one to go with an England win.

Well someone has to I suppose.


I hear Lancaster and the boys are behind you too, mystir.  So that's 24 of you at least

Oh boy.

23 players plus Lancaster plus Mystir = 25 censored

maybe SF thinks Hartley is neutral Wink

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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 12:10

whocares wrote:
Biltong wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I am the only one to go with an England win.

Well someone has to I suppose.


I hear Lancaster and the boys are behind you too, mystir.  So that's 24 of you at least

Oh boy.

23 players plus Lancaster plus Mystir = 25 censored

maybe SF thinks Hartley is neutral Wink

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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 12:11

mystiroakey wrote:How do you know I am not a player or the legend SL himself?


Based on the evidence of thousands of posts and knowing you for a couple of years I think not Wink
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Post by Notch Fri 7 Nov - 12:13

Saturday 8th November 2014

Italy 23 v 24 Samoa
England 10 v 22 New Zealand
Wales 13 v 17 Australia
France 30 v 7 Fiji
Ireland 18 v 25 South Africa
Scotland 10 v 9 Argentina
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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 12:17

Saturday 8th November 2014

Italy 19 v 27 Samoa
England 18 v 27 New Zealand
Wales 19 v 28 Australia
France 38 v 10 Fiji
Ireland 18 v 25 South Africa
Scotland 16 v 19 Argentina
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Post by GunsGerms Fri 7 Nov - 12:18

Italy 18 v Samoa 10
England 19 v New Zealand 27
Wales 22 v Australia 17
France 31 v Fiji 5
Ireland 20 v South Africa 15
Scotland 21 v Argentina 28

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Post by alive555 Fri 7 Nov - 12:19

Riskysports wrote:
alive555 wrote:Italy 17-34 Samoa
England 29-36 New Zealand
Wales 25-30 Australia
France 26-18 Fiji
Ireland 22 -38 South Africa
Glasgow 26 -23 Argentina

Nice Wink Very Happy

well to be fair its not far off ;-

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors); 24 caps
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors); 13 caps
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors); uncapped
12 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors); 8 caps
11 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors); 10 caps
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors); 2 caps
9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Gloucester); 31 caps.  to be replaced by Henri Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)

1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby); 36 caps to be replaced by Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors)
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby); 77 caps
3 Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors); 60 caps
4 Richie Gray (Castres); 39 caps ex Glasgow Warriors to be replaced by Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors)
5 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors); 5 caps
6 Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors); 7 caps
7 Blair Cowan (London Irish); 3 caps. wtf is he there for laughing
8 Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors); 1 cap

and for good measure bringing up the rear in short order we have Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) and mr reliable himself
Sean Lamont of where else (Glasgow Warriors)  thumbsup

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Post by hugehandoff Fri 7 Nov - 12:40

Italy 22 v Samoa 25
England 18 v New Zealand 25
Wales 18 v Australia 25
France 42 v Fiji 23
Ireland 14 v South Africa 23
Scotland 21 v Argentina 23

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Post by No9 Fri 7 Nov - 13:06

Saturday 8th November 2014
Italy 18 - 23 Samoa
England 15 - 28 New Zealand
Wales 32 - 24 Australia
France 28 - 16 Fiji
Ireland 22 - 25 South Africa
Scotland 21 - 18 Argentina

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Post by stub Fri 7 Nov - 13:59

Italy 26-19 Samoa
England 22-23 New Zealand
Wales 15-28 Australia
France 13-11 Fiji
Ireland 17-26 South Africa
Scotland 17-6 Argentina

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Post by stub Fri 7 Nov - 14:03

mystiroakey wrote:Italy 15 Samoa 21
England 21 NZ 12
Wales 25 Oz 21
France 24 figi 9
Ire 14 SA 32
Scotland 15 Arg 14


Love it Fingers Crossed

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Post by profitius Fri 7 Nov - 14:05

Italy 22-21 Samoa
England 25-31 New Zealand
Wales 29-25 Australia
France 38-26 Fiji
Ireland 28-26 South Africa
Scotland 29-21 Argentina
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Post by RDW Fri 7 Nov - 14:07

Most people going for a Scotland win (including me).

Are we favourites for it? Would be an incredible achievement if we won I think, especially given their rugby championship form.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 7 Nov - 14:14

I think Wales, Argentina, NZ, Italy and Ireland will win.

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Post by R!skysports Fri 7 Nov - 14:23

RDW_Scotland wrote:Most people going for a Scotland win (including me).

Are we favourites for it? Would be an incredible achievement if we won I think, especially given their rugby championship form.

Not in my mind - just wishful thinking (me too) - but fully expect Argentina to front up and make it very difficult for us

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 7 Nov - 14:26

You should beat them and you should believe you should and it shouldn't be an over achievement at all looking at how well Glasgow are doing and how bad Argentina have been.

I know people are laughing at the glasgow comment- but the reality is- these players play with each other week in week out so will straight away be on a level of understanding from the first game of the series.




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Post by Wi11 Fri 7 Nov - 14:51

Saturday 8th November 2014
Italy v Samoa 19-20
England v New Zealand 16-28
Wales v Australia 18-27
France v Fiji 33-35
Ireland v South Africa 15-22
Scotland v Argentina 15-23

I promise I do think the NH will win plenty of games this autumn (see provisional predictions below) just not this week!

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Post by Wi11 Fri 7 Nov - 15:08

mystiroakey wrote:You should beat them and you should believe you should and it shouldn't be an over achievement at all looking at how well Glasgow are doing and how bad Argentina have been.

I know people are laughing at the glasgow comment- but the reality is- these players play with each other week in week out so will straight away be on a level of understanding from the first game of the series.




I think you might be right that people are underestimating the benefit of players being together - and winning - week in week out. I totally disagree with your assertion that Argentina have been poor - NZ aside they had 4 close games in the Rugby Championship, and deserved at least one win - they were very unlucky to lose their home game to SA. Argentina's summer results (and hence ranking) have been misleadingly bad purely because they pick a genuine second string for those games.

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Post by beshocked Fri 7 Nov - 15:19

Italy 17-25 Samoa
England 18-28 New Zealand
Wales 20-25 Australia
France 25-17 Fiji
Ireland 19-28 South Africa
Scotland 15-22 Argentina

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Post by Notch Fri 7 Nov - 17:07

RDW_Scotland wrote:Most people going for a Scotland win (including me).

Are we favourites for it? Would be an incredible achievement if we won I think, especially given their rugby championship form.

I feel like Argentina have traditionally recently struggled on this tour but this year may be the year they crack it.

Will be fascinated to see how they do. I feel like they have been pouring all their energies into the Rugby Championship because that is what they are weighed and measured. They constantly have to justify that they deserve to be there.

It used to be on this tour they did that, justified their place at the top table to the world- like when they beat England in 2006 at Twickenham- but, for me, all that has taken a back seat since they were invited into the Rugby Championship.

No disrespect to Scotland, but I love Argentina rugby and would love to see them do well. But they run on emotion and its the Rugby Championship that brings out that incredible emotional high these days.


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Post by Notch Fri 7 Nov - 17:11

Notch wrote:Ireland 18 v 25 South Africa

Biltong wrote:Ireland 18 v 25 South Africa

Ahem! Plagiarism Wink
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Post by Biltong Fri 7 Nov - 17:13

Notch wrote:
Notch wrote:Ireland 18 v 25 South Africa

Biltong wrote:Ireland 18 v 25 South Africa

Ahem! Plagiarism Wink

Great minds think alike.



















Fools never differ. Wink
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