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Post by George Carlin Sun 23 Nov 2014, 8:16 am

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Glasgow Warriors v Newport Gwent Dragons
Sunday 30 November 2014, KO 16:00
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Live on BBC Alba/SC4

Referee: Dudley Phillips (IRFU, 42nd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Lloyd Linton, Andrew McMenemy (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: John Kirk (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)

A. Teams:

I. Glasgow Warriors
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15. Peter Murchie
14. Lee Jones
13. Sean Lamont
12. Peter Horne
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Duncan Weir
9. Niko Matawalu
 
1. Ryan Grant
2. Fraser Brown
3. Jon Welsh
4. Tim Swinson
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Leone Nakarawa
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Ryan Wilson
 
16. Pat MacArthur
17. Gordon Reid
18. Zander Fagerson
19. Josh Strauss
20. Tyrone Holmes
21. Henry Pyrgos
22. Connor Braid
23. Richie Vernon

II. Newport Gwent Dragons
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15 Geraint Rhys Jones
14 Tom Prydie
13 Ross Wardle
12 Ashley Smith,
11 Matthew Pewtner
10 Dorian Jones
09 Richie Rees

01 Brok Harris
02 Elliot Dee
03 Dan Way
04 Cory Hill
05 Rynard Landman (Captain)
06 James Thomas
07 Nic Cudd
08 Lewis Evans

16 T. Rhys Thomas
17 Phil Price
18 Lloyd Fairbrother
19 Andrew Coombs
20 James Benjamin
21 Jonathan Evans
22 Jason Tovey
23 Hallam Amos

B. Form - head to head:

23 Played 23
8 Wins 13
13 Losses 8
2 Draws 2
48 Tries 42
31 Conversions 31
63 Penalties 56
2 Drop Goals 3
497 Points 449
25 Avg. Age 24

C. Form - last season:

Fri 22 November 2013
Glasgow Warriors 8 - 23 Newport Gwent Dragons
Scotstoun Stadium

Sun 23 February 2014
Newport Gwent Dragons 24 - 23 Glasgow Warriors
Rodney Parade


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Post by VinceWLB Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:07 pm

Risca Rev wrote:The journo from our local rag reckons it was a poor decision to yellow Richie?

Chris Kirwan wrote:Stinker of a decision to YC Richie Rees, who was on the wing away from a breakdown offence

It did look harsh but that was like the 3rd offense in the red zone..

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Post by GLove39 Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:08 pm

No try for the man with the worst haircut. But a tasty 5m scrum

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:12 pm

That's much better. Use the dominant scrum

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:13 pm

Guessed a penalty try would come, judging by the sounds of our scrum today

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Post by GLove39 Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:14 pm

Wilson will be cleaning the fan toilets with his toothbrush after that


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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:15 pm

Good job he doesn't have to clean the ones at Rodney Parade

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:16 pm

Geraint Rhys Jones sounds like he is turning into a pretty handy 15 and goal kicker for us. Wonder how our captain can get back into our team now.

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Post by GLove39 Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:19 pm

Ohhh, red if you're going to ping for squint feeds do it more than once. And we were clearly beasting them again in that scrum

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:21 pm

What the f u c k

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:22 pm

That was utterly ridiculous!!

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Post by RDW Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:23 pm

Just turned the game on - ridiculous scrum call by the ref!

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Post by reallybored Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:23 pm

That was just terrible from Dudley.

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:25 pm

Well if we had any doubts that Lamont is not a centre! His second knock on

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Post by Argybargy Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:26 pm

Not sure what half these penasis are for?

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:30 pm

Nor is the ref

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Post by Argybargy Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:31 pm

Laugh

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Post by RDW Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:33 pm

This is one of those games where Glasgow are completely dominating on the scrum, but you just know the ref is going to make some strange calls!

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:37 pm

That does look good for DTH

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:37 pm

Doesn't

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:39 pm

Don't know how long is left (but it can't be long), but I hope we hold on and get an LBP. Though I am happy we have showed some character today and we can now go into three very winnable games and hopefully turn our season around before the double header v the Blouse

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:45 pm

Ten left then. Longer than I would've liked

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Post by George Carlin Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:45 pm

Oh my god. 19-15 and asbestos underpants time again.

Why do we always do this against the Dragons?
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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:45 pm

You'll be fine

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Post by GLove39 Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:49 pm

Asbestos underwear time for Weir there

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Post by RDW Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:49 pm

Poor performance from Glasgow this, although Dragons have certainly stepped up this week.

Glasgow really need to raise their game for next week!

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Post by The Saint Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:50 pm

Benjamin for us really is a poor player.

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Post by The Saint Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:52 pm

Terrible decision, tackler clearly not releasing.

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Post by GLove39 Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:53 pm

Well a wins a win...

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:54 pm

Jon Welsh deservedly motm!

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:54 pm

Well they all count, but that was not convincing. Winning ugly sums it up!

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:55 pm

Delighted with an LBP. Very good turnaround from last week.

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:55 pm

Meant to say as well, well done Dragons, rumours of their demise are clearly much exagerated

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Post by cakeordeath Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:55 pm

That was a terrible performance from Glasgow. Dragons don't look like a team propping up the league

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Post by George Carlin Sun 30 Nov 2014, 5:55 pm

So is the consensus that we are going to be eaten and pooped out of Guy Noves' backside if we play like that next week? I didn't see the game. Why were we so bad? Was it lashing down?
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Post by VinceWLB Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:00 pm

George Carlin wrote:So is the consensus that we are going to be eaten and pooped out of Guy Noves' backside if we play like that next week? I didn't see the game. Why were we so bad? Was it lashing down?

I'm actually much more confident facing Toulouse than before the game as the scrum has looked good for the 1st time of the season.

Dragons played with a lot of intensity in defense, Glasgow didn't expect that and didn't know how to deal with it.

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:08 pm

Toulouse lost at home yesterday as well. They are having an up and down sort of year as well.

I will feel a lot better with Russell and Dunbar back in midfield. No one was directing the traffic today. We were actually better when Henry came on as well. Niko is better used as the ultimate impact sub

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:09 pm

Also it's better a game like this going into europe rather than a 50 pointer blowout so well done The Dragons for upping their game.

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:11 pm

VinceWLB wrote:
George Carlin wrote:So is the consensus that we are going to be eaten and pooped out of Guy Noves' backside if we play like that next week? I didn't see the game. Why were we so bad? Was it lashing down?

I'm actually much more confident facing Toulouse than before the game as the scrum has looked good for the 1st time of the season.

Dragons played with a lot of intensity in defense, Glasgow didn't expect that and didn't know how to deal with it.

Yes a few more performances like that (and by GC for London Irish) and Jon Welsh could be playing himself into the Scotland TH shirt. He really did look good today, especially considering it was his first full game back. A worthy MoM, there were not many candidates!

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Post by RDW Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:13 pm

Welsh seems to have lost some flab too - he seems to no longer be in the Jacobson school of propping!

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:13 pm

BigGee wrote:Toulouse lost at home yesterday as well. They are having an up and down sort of year as well.

I will feel a lot better with Russell and Dunbar back in midfield. No one was directing the traffic today. We were actually better when Henry came on as well. Niko is better used as the ultimate impact sub

It's funny you say that as i thought Weir had a good game but yeah Dunbar definitely nailed on. I am fairly sure Pyrgos will start next week.

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Post by jimbopip Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:19 pm

The only real selection worry in the backs is 13 with the continued absence of angel .
Last time I looked at the table Montpellier and Tolouse were sitting arm in arm somewhere the middle. Since we won in Montpellier we should win next week. Aristotelian logic at it's finest.

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:19 pm

Apologies. Congrats Glasgow. Not what you would've wanted or expected, but a win is a win. Plus you're two wins better off than last season.

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:22 pm

VinceWLB wrote:
BigGee wrote:Toulouse lost at home yesterday as well. They are having an up and down sort of year as well.

I will feel a lot better with Russell and Dunbar back in midfield. No one was directing the traffic today. We were actually better when Henry came on as well. Niko is better used as the ultimate impact sub

It's funny you say that as i thought Weir had a good game but yeah Dunbar definitely nailed on. I am fairly sure Pyrgos will start next week.

Probably a bit much to blame it all on Weir. he certainly kicked well, from tee and by hand. In truth non of the backs, other than maybe Murchie, played well. Lamont once again showed his limitations at centre and Horne just had one of those games.

I am sure it will be Henry and Finn at half back next week, they are our best pairing to start and the others to warm the pine.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:47 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Apologies. Congrats Glasgow. Not what you would've wanted or expected, but a win is a win. Plus you're two wins better off than last season.

Sounds like your boys stepped up too Risca. Not that many people will take a BP from Scotstoun this season.
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Post by TJ Sun 30 Nov 2014, 6:57 pm

A win is a win but the4y made hard work of it. No favours from the ref either. How the Dragons front row stayed on I don't know and how the ref allowed them to walk round a scrum, breakaway and give the put in to dragons I don't know.

Not even a sniff of a bonus point. Centres is the issue for Glasgow. Start Vernon instead of shlong?

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Post by Notch Sun 30 Nov 2014, 7:05 pm

The top six as it stands is arse-clenchingly close

Munster 32 pts
Ospreys 31 pts
Glasgow 31 pts
Ulster 31 pts
Leinster 28 pts
Connacht 27 pts

I imagine it will remain so over the next number of weeks... it's hard to call the top 4 this season, or rather it's hard to call which one of those top five teams will miss out.


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Post by RDW Sun 30 Nov 2014, 7:07 pm

Lack of BPs potentially going to mess things up things up for Glasgow again

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 7:19 pm

Well a mid season wobble seems to becoming a bit of a tradition!

Hopefully we have had it now and it was not quite as drastic as previous years. I still can't get over the way we lost back to back to the Blues last year

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Post by BigGee Sun 30 Nov 2014, 7:46 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Lack of BPs potentially going to mess things up things up for Glasgow again

I think it is more likely to come down to the head to heads between the contenders rather than the bonus points. They all seem to have had a wobble or two. Glasgow have only really played Leinster (W) and Ulster (L) so far of our major rivals, we have still got o play Ospreys and Munster twice. This game coming against Munster is going to be very important, got to win the home ones and hopefully sneck a few of the away ones as well. No one seems invincible this year, is probably going o go right down to the wire.

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Post by RDW Sun 30 Nov 2014, 8:01 pm

BigGee wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Lack of BPs potentially going to mess things up things up for Glasgow again

I think it is more likely to come down to the head to heads between the contenders rather than the bonus points. They all seem to have had a wobble or two. Glasgow have only really played Leinster (W) and Ulster (L) so far of our major rivals, we have still got o play Ospreys and Munster twice. This game coming against Munster is going to be very important, got to win the home ones and hopefully sneck a few of the away ones as well. No one seems invincible this year,  is probably going o go right down to the wire.

The thing is though Glasgow have been here before, with a lack of BPs costing them dearly. It's gonna be so tight they need every point they can get!

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