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Season 7 Homepage V
First topic message reminder :
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Northampton Saints | 13 | 11 | 0 | 2 | 368 | 321 | 47 | 40 | 30 | 6 | 2 | 52 | |
2 | Sale Sharks * | 13 | 10 | 0 | 3 | 362 | 327 | 35 | 40 | 30 | 4 | 3 | 46 | |
3 | London Wasps * | 13 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 358 | 337 | 21 | 37 | 33 | 3 | 2 | 42 | |
4 | Harlequins * | 13 | 8 | 2 | 3 | 367 | 327 | 40 | 38 | 30 | 2 | 3 | 40 | |
5 | Leicester Tigers | 13 | 6 | 0 | 7 | 315 | 323 | -8 | 26 | 29 | 0 | 7 | 31 | |
6 | Exeter Chiefs * | 13 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 318 | 324 | -6 | 27 | 28 | 0 | 4 | 31 | |
7 | Saracens | 13 | 5 | 1 | 7 | 315 | 334 | -19 | 28 | 30 | 0 | 7 | 29 | |
8 | Bath Rugby * | 13 | 5 | 1 | 7 | 337 | 340 | -3 | 33 | 33 | 1 | 7 | 28 | |
9 | Gloucester | 13 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 333 | 334 | -1 | 29 | 30 | 0 | 7 | 27 | |
10 | Newcastle Falcons * | 13 | 3 | 1 | 9 | 316 | 348 | -32 | 28 | 33 | 2 | 7 | 22 | |
11 | London Irish | 13 | 2 | 2 | 9 | 318 | 348 | -30 | 28 | 35 | 1 | 8 | 21 | |
12 | London Welsh | 13 | 3 | 0 | 10 | 303 | 350 | -47 | 26 | 36 | 0 | 6 | 18 |
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
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Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Open Window
Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.
The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Do you mean after Brooke's there is no TH?
I know the feeling. At glos we have Afoa and then nowt apart from our Tongan.
Same at loosehead when wood is missing and same at hooker with no Hibbard. Dawiduik looked so good but has gone backwards and lutui can't throw
I know the feeling. At glos we have Afoa and then nowt apart from our Tongan.
Same at loosehead when wood is missing and same at hooker with no Hibbard. Dawiduik looked so good but has gone backwards and lutui can't throw
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Has the ref heard of defence back ten metres ?
Both teams so offside. Falcons about 3 metres away at the moment
Both teams so offside. Falcons about 3 metres away at the moment
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No Tomas, Wilson or Brookes in this squad. 3 LH's in 23 and a national league TH
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I know its reserve team level In many ways but in the loose mcguigan is fantastic.
Set piece another matter.
Morne steyn is even struggling at this level !
Hammersly is electric ball in hand. Love watching a player that can step like that. Reminds me of tait. He is a lot taller but has that callow build.
That step was sensational beat him in about 2 metres and a lovely handoff
Set piece another matter.
Morne steyn is even struggling at this level !
Hammersly is electric ball in hand. Love watching a player that can step like that. Reminds me of tait. He is a lot taller but has that callow build.
That step was sensational beat him in about 2 metres and a lovely handoff
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This ref is dire. Has been awful from start to finish for both sides
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Tommy needs to play 10 more
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Loving the excitement at the end there.
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MCGuigan is unreal in loose but arrows very suspect, he's improved no end this season but still needs work.
Cracking game. Wilson, Hammersley and McGuigan superb.
Cracking game. Wilson, Hammersley and McGuigan superb.
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Great match. Falcons have some good young lads.
Even though stade had out reserves the depth of french teams means they still had internationals out.
Thought mcguigan and hammersley standouts. Wilson carried well also
Even though stade had out reserves the depth of french teams means they still had internationals out.
Thought mcguigan and hammersley standouts. Wilson carried well also
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Wow me and pooly agree simultaneous posts picking same 3 players as standouts.anonmattyt wrote:Great match. Falcons have some good young lads.
Even though stade had out reserves the depth of french teams means they still had internationals out.
Thought mcguigan and hammersley standouts. Wilson carried well also
A Kodak moment
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Great game, we played some lovely stuff. If we had a scrum we'd have walked that.
Same opinions.....something bad is going to happen somewhere.
Same opinions.....something bad is going to happen somewhere.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Great game, we played some lovely stuff. If we had a scrum we'd have walked that.
Same opinions.....something bad is going to happen somewhere.
It's a Christmas miracle.
Saull quality again , been immense this season for us. If we'd of had Brookes , Thomson and Kolo we'd of done them
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Stade 3rd in that table with their squad says how serious they are taking the game.
Heard morne steyn and Juan smith moving back to Sa for crack at the World Cup team at end of season.
Smith turned down a big offer apparently to stay.
Also in local rag Dan Robson will be off to Exeter which makes sense although we are meant to be preparing a counter offer.
Glos always say they are going to make a counter offer to make fans think the player has left despite them trying. We did it with Allen, lamb, Vickery,Burns and many more. Fact is we are poor at keeping players as we don't manage our wages.
We pay youth peanuts then they become proper players
And we have no room under salary cap a we have wasted it on big names.
Tindall was one of highest paid players
In rugby as was Barkley at our place.
Apparently Afoa highest paid player in prem with Hibbard not far behind
Heard morne steyn and Juan smith moving back to Sa for crack at the World Cup team at end of season.
Smith turned down a big offer apparently to stay.
Also in local rag Dan Robson will be off to Exeter which makes sense although we are meant to be preparing a counter offer.
Glos always say they are going to make a counter offer to make fans think the player has left despite them trying. We did it with Allen, lamb, Vickery,Burns and many more. Fact is we are poor at keeping players as we don't manage our wages.
We pay youth peanuts then they become proper players
And we have no room under salary cap a we have wasted it on big names.
Tindall was one of highest paid players
In rugby as was Barkley at our place.
Apparently Afoa highest paid player in prem with Hibbard not far behind
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Festive miracle.Driver wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote: Great game, we played some lovely stuff. If we had a scrum we'd have walked that.
Same opinions.....something bad is going to happen somewhere.
It's a Christmas miracle.
Saull quality again , been immense this season for us. If we'd of had Brookes , Thomson and Kolo we'd of done them
did you play stade
Last week also like the other double headers ?
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Yea we beat them last week and scrum was on top believe it or not
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Amazed stade and french clubs don't put out decent sides. You can qualify for heino via this route.
Top14 everything in france.
Only Toulon, toulouse and Clermont embrace European rugby.
Odd
Top14 everything in france.
Only Toulon, toulouse and Clermont embrace European rugby.
Odd
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I don't think anyone embraces the 2nd tier. This is probably the strongest side we've put out so far and there was 9 or so missing 1st teamers
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Same as Europa
In football. Once the top tier teams drop
In to it becomes important.
We have oyonax,Zebre etc in our group and it's tedious. No decent away trips and best to just try and muddle through to later stages whilst resting players.
Shame as it really affects momentum in league and gates are low.
Top4 so hard these days a with Sarries Leicester saints nailed on and exeter wasps bath etc all in the mix it is becoming like football with the same teams plus a couple of others each year.
Almost becoming 2 or 3 leagues within prem.
Great to see exeter challenging the mix but long term Sarries Saints bath and Leicester with their finances will be always be in top 4
In football. Once the top tier teams drop
In to it becomes important.
We have oyonax,Zebre etc in our group and it's tedious. No decent away trips and best to just try and muddle through to later stages whilst resting players.
Shame as it really affects momentum in league and gates are low.
Top4 so hard these days a with Sarries Leicester saints nailed on and exeter wasps bath etc all in the mix it is becoming like football with the same teams plus a couple of others each year.
Almost becoming 2 or 3 leagues within prem.
Great to see exeter challenging the mix but long term Sarries Saints bath and Leicester with their finances will be always be in top 4
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I'd be happy with 7/8th for us next season.
I think we're a LH & FH away from a lower mid table side. Another year for the kids to come along like Wilson, McGuigan, Barrow, Temm, Harris, Hammersley, Kibirige should be interesting.
I'd like to see more of Catterick at 10, the boy can pass.
I think we're a LH & FH away from a lower mid table side. Another year for the kids to come along like Wilson, McGuigan, Barrow, Temm, Harris, Hammersley, Kibirige should be interesting.
I'd like to see more of Catterick at 10, the boy can pass.
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Gopperth to Wasps in the rugby news also.
He is a one man show and think he will not work there
He is a one man show and think he will not work there
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Actually opposite thoughts from me there matt. Gopperth is in the mould of Goode (not physically!) and actually suit their gameplan imo
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Fluxy I think Goode holds them back a bit. Can see he is like for like but feel a different style 10 May help them
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On louw and Burgess returning in telegraph and RP
"The return of Louw, who was injured on Springbok duty against New Zealand in September, will bring hard-headed experience to the Bath cause. Burgess will bring beef, energy, freshness, naivety, and a whole heap of interest. This show is set for a long run."
"The return of Louw, who was injured on Springbok duty against New Zealand in September, will bring hard-headed experience to the Bath cause. Burgess will bring beef, energy, freshness, naivety, and a whole heap of interest. This show is set for a long run."
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This is why in the loose is the worst site ever. All their contributors are about 13 and female.
http://intheloose.com/2014/12/11/baths-potential-starting-xv-next-season-incredible/
Morgan would never leave glos for bath and AAC Vermaulen and Genia ??
Bizarre. Such a non article
http://intheloose.com/2014/12/11/baths-potential-starting-xv-next-season-incredible/
Morgan would never leave glos for bath and AAC Vermaulen and Genia ??
Bizarre. Such a non article
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anonmattyt wrote:This is why in the loose is the worst site ever. All their contributors are about 13 and female.
http://intheloose.com/2014/12/11/baths-potential-starting-xv-next-season-incredible/
Morgan would never leave glos for bath and AAC Vermaulen and Genia ??
Bizarre. Such a non article
Absolutely no way whatsoever they can fit Louw, AAC, Genia, Burgess, Morgan, Eastmond, Ford, James, Wilson, Vermeulen all under the cap. They will get one of Genia or Vermeulen. That's it
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James is going end of season to ospreys so that's saves some money
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I imagine James was on a fair whack, as is Henson who might leave. With burgess being mostly funded by the RFU, they probably have room for one or two
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I think they may keep Henson for next season as he can cover alot of areas during the world cup.
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Fluxy wrote:I imagine James was on a fair whack, as is Henson who might leave. With burgess being mostly funded by the RFU, they probably have room for one or two
Burgess isn't funded by the RFU
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Bath are a stupidly wealthy club, my old law firm had them as one of their big clients and the money they have to splash around is like a football club compared to the other AP teams. Can't see how they are under the salary cap at the moment - do clubs get 2 marquee signings from next season?
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They're not under the cap, but they know the loopholes so don't get stung. They are also one of 3 clubs who want the cap removed. Everyone else in the league wants it to stay.
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Yes like saracens and Saints.Ozzy3213 wrote:They're not under the cap, but they know the loopholes so don't get stung. They are also one of 3 clubs who want the cap removed. Everyone else in the league wants it to stay.
Can't blame them. Having a limit will make people cheat. Having no limit will kill the game. Hard to get right
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Ineffectual. Looked like he got s knock on the cheek early on. Not sure if it affected him. Couple of big hits and a fortunate assist off his knee.
Got 2 Guiness' with a mate on him not making a 6n appearance.
Got 2 Guiness' with a mate on him not making a 6n appearance.
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Safe bet. He will be saxons and get a try in June test
Maybe. I was at Bath xmas markets tonight with parents; Mrs and kid. Barely saw a bath fan as we arrived before game and left during it I suppose. Ground was very quiet noise wise:
Was it a full house ?
Maybe. I was at Bath xmas markets tonight with parents; Mrs and kid. Barely saw a bath fan as we arrived before game and left during it I suppose. Ground was very quiet noise wise:
Was it a full house ?
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Looked pretty full yeh. Better turnout then other games I've seen last week.
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It's a really poor stadium atmosphere wise. Beautiful setting. We were almost next to it and could see the ball in the air but it was really quiet. xmas market was mental took us ages to get into bath glad we went before fans arrived in to town. Being a Georgian city bath struggles with traffic. Can't simply widen roads when every piece of bath is listed and protected
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I've read and heard that Burgess was good.
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Burgess did better than I thought he would do, few bits where you can see he is still a union novice when he got turned over in contact and kicked an overlap but a lot more positives.
The amount of space he creates for others by sucking in defenders is really noticeable - considering he's had 6 weeks or so at Bath and that was his first game.
A lovely 'set up' for Banahans first try too...
The amount of space he creates for others by sucking in defenders is really noticeable - considering he's had 6 weeks or so at Bath and that was his first game.
A lovely 'set up' for Banahans first try too...
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Seems a fair analysis of what I have read Chris. Apparently did some great work off the ball but also at times was looking around working out where to go
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The area he needs work is timing off the phases, an issue with Bath is that they don't seem to generate quick enough ball to attack with and Cook doesn't boss that area particularly well - they picked up when Young came on. If Bath get a top rate no9 then they are going to be very tough to stop.
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Another disappointing showing from Burgess. His carrying isn't as good as I thought it would be.
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Fluxy wrote:I imagine James was on a fair whack, as is Henson who might leave. With burgess being mostly funded by the RFU, they probably have room for one or two
Burgess wasn't funded at all by the RFU in the end, no? And even if he were that's just the sign up not the salary. Henson being on any big money is a joke anyway. Bath must be nowhere near the cap, as in well above it and taking the urine really! They are also a very expensive city, so each player will be on relatively more anyway, before even taking the number of big names and squad size into account
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Pooly you aren't going to get a top class player straight away with Burgess, can't see how you could be disappointed with him as he's learning the game and is making good progress.
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I know but you kind of expect something with all the hype he's getting and he doesn't look anything at the minute.
I least expected him to be a carrier ala Manu but he hasn't shown that. I'm just underwhelmed.
I least expected him to be a carrier ala Manu but he hasn't shown that. I'm just underwhelmed.
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I'd disagree - with all the little bits in his game coming through there is a lot of potential - the hit on the Montpellier no8 shows the power he has in defence, compared to the week before his positioning was a lot better, the number of people he drags out of position on dummy runs - Banahan's second try and he did a great line for Argullas try at the end. Guess the thing is he'll only improve.
You were right with the comments you made about Watson a little while back, he didn't look the most assured under the high ball - reckon he might stay put on the wing for England.
You were right with the comments you made about Watson a little while back, he didn't look the most assured under the high ball - reckon he might stay put on the wing for England.
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I think we've got to remember that Sam Burgess is in his 6th week at most of learning a brand new sport to himself. He'll take time , Sonny Bill was dire for Toulon in his first season but they just kept playing him and eventually he got there.
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That's the point most of us have been making about Burgess, he's not going to do much for at least a year.
It's the hype machine suggesting he'll be the saviour at 12 for the WC, he won't.
There's so much hype surrounding him, it's only natural to to expect something and he's just not delivering yet.
It's the hype machine suggesting he'll be the saviour at 12 for the WC, he won't.
There's so much hype surrounding him, it's only natural to to expect something and he's just not delivering yet.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:That's the point most of us have been making about Burgess, he's not going to do much for at least a year.
It's the hype machine suggesting he'll be the saviour at 12 for the WC, he won't.
There's so much hype surrounding him, it's only natural to to expect something and he's just not delivering yet.
I agree and think he will take at least a year. This means he will be borderline ready come world cup. Personally feel it's too soon.
Look at SBW he has looked out of sorts since back in union. Done some decent things but made more mistakes than good. SBW was and will be a decent Union player so for him to struggle on return shows how big burgess task is.
Most forget that Sbw was sub or wing in world cup. Had a great tournament. Started 12 when nonu was out but when all fit nonu would be first choice 12. SBW is a classy player to bring on or start and being Back adds to nz considerably
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