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Post by GunsGerms Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:53 am

First topic message reminder :

http://www.thescore.ie/dan-carter-france-1834845-Dec2014/

Racing hoping to sign DC after the WC to replace the best 10 in the world Jonny Sexton. Probably for around €1m a year and DC will probably be injured for most the season again.

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Post by disneychilly Thu 18 Dec 2014, 11:23 am

TBH I don't give a flying f**k if he gets injured at Racing it's next year I'm worried about...

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Post by GunsGerms Thu 18 Dec 2014, 11:44 am

Bathman_in_London wrote:Montpellier is a nice city Guns if for some reason they were to offer you a contract...

Never been there. Looks nice on Google. For some reason I prefer the West coast. Better surf and I like the basque region anyway.

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Post by Sin é Thu 18 Dec 2014, 1:21 pm

Interview here with him:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ctgyk_dan-carter-au-racing-metro-92_sport
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Post by fa0019 Thu 18 Dec 2014, 3:36 pm

How old was JW when he went 30? He probably had 4 good years right. Its a tight one I think.

For Carter its a no brainer although I imagine the hardline tax system in France is going to jump all over that salary.
To be honest it could be justified from a marketing perspective. Guys like Wilkinson, Carter etc can justify the money regardless of performance because of the draw they are for fans. I would mention however that JW fully immersed himself in the culture, the lifestyle which is why the French took to him. How Carter does is up to him.

If a guy gets up and leaves aged 33 I don't think many can have any complaints, rugby players have a short career and suffer a lot of physical complications thereafter too.... he's going to have to pay for all those knee replacements, hip replacements etc very early on in life so the money will be necessary.

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Post by Knowsit17 Thu 18 Dec 2014, 5:42 pm

Well, Jonny Sexton couldn't remedy the superficiality of this plastered together French team, which is saying something given Sexton's talismanic status for Ireland and Leinster. Can Carter succeed where Sexton couldn't? Or will it be 1.5m euros a year mainly down the drain from Racing? Carter's injury record certainly doesn't spell a positive ahead of the move.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Thu 18 Dec 2014, 7:37 pm

Sexton is quality when he is in a quality team.
Racing had quality players but rarely look like a quality team.
It will be interesting for Sexton next season when he comes back to Leinster and finds out it is no longer the quality team he left behind.

What's the over/under on the number of games Carter plays in the season? Perpignan got half a game? So the betting spread would be interesting.

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Post by The Saint Thu 18 Dec 2014, 8:49 pm

Racing look a lot better this year, maybe the improvement will continue into the 2015/16 season. I can't really see them getting worse with a player like Carter coming in...

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Post by rainbow-warrior Fri 19 Dec 2014, 3:50 am

They only paid Gareth Bales loose change to buy him! Really is that a record?
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Post by LondonTiger Fri 19 Dec 2014, 10:02 am

fa0019 wrote:For Carter its a no brainer although I imagine the hardline tax system in France is going to jump all over that salary..

I think they introduced a loophole for sportsmen/women - so hi stax bill will be much lower than it would be in UK

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Post by whocares Fri 19 Dec 2014, 10:50 am

LondonTiger wrote:
fa0019 wrote:For Carter its a no brainer although I imagine the hardline tax system in France is going to jump all over that salary..

I think they introduced a loophole for sportsmen/women - so hi stax bill will be much lower than it would be in UK

unlikely but...

not really a loophole but any "impats" i.e. persons that have been living 5 years or more abroad prior moving can have a tax rebate of 30%. there is other rules that could allow his tax to be based on his last 4 years average revenue whic hwoudl obviously lower the income tax...then there is the possibility of having part of his salary paid into a NZ bank account (depending of the bliateral agreement between the countries it could be tax free). the 75% income tax is also appiclbale to sportsmen and women but only impacts anythign earned over 1M€ (I think his salary is closer to 1.1 in the end).

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Post by SecretFly Fri 19 Dec 2014, 11:15 am

I think tax would have been factored in to his discussions to come to a figure after tax that he's comfortable with, which will still be more than the next guy down the line gets.................. unless he happens to be a guy named McCaw.

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Post by Taylorman Fri 19 Dec 2014, 8:41 pm

SecretFly wrote:I think tax would have been factored in to his discussions to come to a figure after tax that he's comfortable with, which will still be more than the next guy down the line gets.................. unless he happens to be a guy named McCaw.

Has McCaw actually signed for an oveseas contract? I'd have thought if there is one player that won't lower himself to an overseas contract it would be McCaw. If anything he'd go because he just wants to keep playing but for me I just don't like the thought of him being subject to the local scene, media, crictics etc and running around in funny colours...just doesn't seem right. Precious I know... Rolling Eyes

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Post by aucklandlaurie Sat 20 Dec 2014, 4:53 am


Carter to play against ABs?




http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11377394

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Post by SecretFly Sat 20 Dec 2014, 9:30 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Carter to play against ABs?




http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11377394

Yahoo Let him appreciate how things look from the other side! Wink A wake up call, Dan. - Have the smelling salts ready.

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Post by Sin é Sat 20 Dec 2014, 10:46 am

Ronan O'Gara's column on the move. Says that Dan Carter will make a fortune off pitch as well in Paris.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/ronan-ogara/ronan-ogara-racing-metro-have-eyes-set-on-euro16m-man-dan-carter-303298.html

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Post by aucklandlaurie Sat 20 Dec 2014, 8:02 pm

New Zealand French Residents xv 2016:

15.Lachie Munro,
14. Sitiveni Sivivatu,
13. Renee Ranger,
12. Casey Laulala,
11. Joe Rokocoko,
10. Dan Carter,
9. Taniela Moa,
8. Jason Eaton,
7. Luke Braid,
6. Chris Masoe,
5. Ali Williams,
4. Tom Donnelly,
3. Carl Hayman,
2. Corey Flynn,
1. Chris King.

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Post by whocares Sat 20 Dec 2014, 9:30 pm

Not sure Ali Williams is meant to stay that long...
Probably could replace one the wingers by Zac Guilford and add Nonu as well.

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Post by Guest Sat 20 Dec 2014, 9:58 pm

Toulon boss describes Nonu....

"He's a great centre and he's got great looks. At Toulon, we love this," said Boudjellal.

He's got great 'looks', crack up.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/64364649/Ma-a-Nonu-heading-for-France-after-Rugby-World-Cup

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Post by The Saint Sat 20 Dec 2014, 10:10 pm

Must have been referring to his hair and eye-liner.

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Post by Guest Sat 20 Dec 2014, 10:15 pm

Yeah, that eyeliner is a special kind of look on a rugby player but fortunately he has biceps to back it up. Just looked at their roster, it's pretty damn formidable.

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