Season 7 Homepage VI

by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 14 Jan - 15:11

First topic message reminder :

Breaking News: Saints & Harlequins pick up strong bonus point wins while the battle for top 6 heats up with Gloucester & Saracens good form continuing.

Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 3 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Northampton Saints	14	12	0	2	398	344	54	44	32	7	2	57
2	Sale Sharks *	14	11	0	3	389	347	42	43	31	4	3	50
3	London Wasps *	14	10	1	3	388	362	26	41	34	4	2	47
4	Harlequins *	14	8	2	4	392	357	35	39	34	2	4	41
5	Leicester Tigers	14	6	1	7	339	347	-8	28	31	0	7	33
6	Saracens	14	6	1	7	341	358	-17	30	32	0	7	33
7	Exeter Chiefs *	14	5	4	5	338	352	-14	28	31	0	5	32
8	Gloucester	14	5	1	8	357	358	-1	31	32	0	7	29
9	Bath Rugby *	14	5	1	8	361	366	-5	35	35	1	8	29
10	Newcastle Falcons *	14	4	1	9	344	370	-26	31	34	2	7	26
11	London Irish	14	2	2	10	341	378	-37	30	39	1	9	22
12	London Welsh	14	3	0	11	323	377	-54	27	39	0	7	19

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage

Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

Open Window

Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 14:05

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11352615/.html

Let's hope so. Hopefully he'll take his arrogant, no defence ass off to France!

by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Jan - 14:17

I kind of hope Easter isn't picked for purely selfish reasons- we don't have enough backrowers if he is! Wallace is injured, Trayfoot has a niggle, Robshaw will be away and Chisholm is in the U20s

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 14:18

I don't think he should be CJ, it's a backwards decision.

by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Jan - 14:22

I agree if he were ever to come in it should have been in Cardiff 2 years ago when Billy and Morgan were injured

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 14:23

Agree, his form hasn't overly changed in 2 years, he's been very consistent.

Go with Billy, he's going ok and will only develop.

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 15:02

Sgt_Pooly wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11352615/.html

Let's hope so. Hopefully he'll take his arrogant, no defence ass off to France!

You are one of the only people in england who does not want involved. As Geech says he is the form 10 in Europe for 2 seasons.

As for arrogant how? He seems to keep his head down and get on with life.
Years ago he was a prat but has grown up.

If Toulon want him it says everything about his qualities. They can buy anyone but want him

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 15:03

Sgt_Pooly wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11352615/.html

Let's hope so. Hopefully he'll take his arrogant, no defence ass off to France!

You are one of the only people in england who does not want involved. As Geech says he is the form 10 in Europe for 2 seasons.

As for arrogant how? He seems to keep his head down and get on with life.
Years ago he was a prat but has grown up.

If Toulon want him it says everything about his qualities. They can buy anyone but want him

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 15:05

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I don't think he should be CJ, it's a backwards decision.

Agree if it was World Cup game I would pick him but not for 6n

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 15:09

They also bought Ma'afu, Castro, Michalak......

If he's going into the Saxons I'm obviously not the only person who's not jumping on the bandwagon, but somebody who sees his obvious flaws and that he'd be caught out at a higher level.

This is nothing to do with you, I've never rated Cipriani and never will. Just because the press tell us something doesn't mean you can't have a differing opinion......

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 15:39

Would rather have Cipriani than Myler though - doesn't overly surprise me with Lancaster, he hasn't got an attacking instinct in him. Only time we've given flair players a chance is when we've had stupid amounts of injuries - if Noon was still playing in England Lancaster would pick him.

Wade, Foden and Cipriani all have to be involved if we are trying to develop our game more.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 15:41

Foden better than Brown?

Is Cips better than Ford or Farrell?

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 15:50

Different players, I'm a big Ford fan and like Farrell but think Cipriani has over the last 18 months deserved another shot with England. Farrell's form hasn't been the best and I'd like to see England attack far more. Cipriani should be our 3rd choice no10 as he offers more than what Myler would at the next level. He's been brilliant this season and looks to have captured the form he had when he came through at Wasps. He's actually a nice guy as well, met him at a charity event a few months back.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 15:56

Farrell was excellent today and has the pedigree. Myler has form and more rounded than Cips imo.

Cips defence is dreadful, how can you be an Int player with such bad defence?

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 15:59

Said they have to be involved, doesn't mean I think they are better. Foden in better form than Brown currently but I'd start Brown with Foden on the bench.

Would go Youngs Ford May Barritt Burrell Wade/Watson Brown with Care Farrell/Cips and Foden/Watson on the bench. Got to stop picking guys like Goode and Twelvetrees as have better attacking players.

Change my mind each week as to who should start over Care and Youngs.

by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Jan - 16:03

Foden is a more than capable bench option and possibly worth a go vs someone less kicking-y like France or Italy for a start anyway

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 16:04

Farrell has to bench over Cips/Myler, he's a top FH and proven.

I'd start Wade and have Watson on bench.

by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Jan - 16:06

Nowell is another good bench player. Just not Alex Averagee

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 16:08

Yea he's be canny.

I just don't want Cips anywhere near the squad, I don't rate him at all. His goal kicking isn't reliable and defence is shocking, not the type of player to see out a game.

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 16:12

Think Farrell will be bench, but would get Cipriani
In the squad as no one is in better form.

Agree Nowell would be a good bench option - would prefer Foden, Watson or him to Yarde on the bench as they can all cover wing and fb. Either start Yarde or don't have him in match day 23.

Just want to see us attack more

by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Jan - 16:13

Lancaster still has absolutely no idea how to select or use a bench Sad

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 16:14

Who would you have CJ?

by ChequeredJersey Sat 17 Jan - 16:41

Well for one, I believe in impact and breadth across the bench. I'd have Corbisiero, Webber (right now, mostly because Youngs is so much worse off the bench than starting), Cole/Brookes, Parling, Haskell/Ewers, Care, Farrell and Watson/Nowell/Foden.

Not one position specialists where possible. Not only steady players that won't change a game. And I wouldn't then automatically use my bench options at predictable predecided time points

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 17:35

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Farrell was excellent today and has the pedigree. Myler has form and more rounded than Cips imo.

Cips defence is dreadful, how can you be an Int player with such bad defence?

Foley of Australia is a far worse defender than cips and he has played well at int level. Cips defends ok now and is no liability.

Sanchez of Argentina is a poor defender but his attack out weighs his defence

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 17:54

Young Leinster tight head who keeps Ross out looks good. Anyone know much about him?

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 18:04

Pretty sure SJE might have him - he's pretty much got all the upcoming Irish players in his squad!

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 18:16

Cips is nowhere near as good defender as Foley/Sanchez. These guys are playing Int rugby and coping fine, Cips is awful at AP

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 18:38

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Cips is nowhere near as good defender as Foley/Sanchez. These guys are playing Int rugby and coping fine, Cips is awful at AP

Australia hide foley as they know he can't defend. However as he offers a lot of good things they have changed their defensive system to accommodate/hide him. Against france he missed 5 tackles one game and 7 in the other but played well so rather than throw him out they looked how They could keep him in the side. This has worked and by hiding him and having other olaymakers to step
In it works.

Argentina do
A similar thing with Sanchez and have altered their defensive system

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 18:44

You can't hide players at Int level.

Stop making stats up.....

Foley missed one tackle v France in AI and 1 in summer.

http://www.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/match/227307.html

http://www.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/match/193511.html

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 18:45

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/06/09/wallabies-player-ratings-against-france/

Not made up as you can see.

Here is a piece I read among others on Australia defemce

http://www.the42.ie/analysis-australia-defence-ireland-1793231-Nov2014/

One of the teams I am involved in coaching have a 10 who can't defend so did some reading on potential solutions.

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 18:51

Missed the Sarries game earlier. Were they that good or were Munster that bad?

Thought it would be closer

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 18:55

Well they didn't check the stats as ESPN use optra and he missed 2 in 2 games.

Either way, he's missing them at Int level, not AP. Cipriani is a complete liability.

by **Ozzy3213** Sat 17 Jan - 19:08

To label Cipriani a complete liability is just nonsense. By all means question his defence if you see fit, but that statement is nonsense. He is currently steering his team towards a win against one of the best teams in Europe.

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 19:16

Ozzy3213 wrote:To label Cipriani a complete liability is just nonsense. By all means question his defence if you see fit, but that statement is nonsense. He is currently steering his team towards a win against one of the best teams in Europe.

Nonsense is a very accurate description Pete. Sale have made a really good go of this.

Sale are well coached and play well as a team. I like diamond and his approach.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 19:37

Liability probably a little harsh but he's an awful defender. He'd be targeted and become a liability at a higher level. You can't be that bad and play int rugby.

We also have his goal kicking which is not consistsnt enough.

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 19:56

He played against nz in June didn't he ?

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 19:58

From the bench for how long??? Then suddenly dropped to 4th choice.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 17 Jan - 20:02

anonmattyt wrote:Young Leinster tight head who keeps Ross out looks good. Anyone know much about him?

Marty Moore. Most wanted him ahead of Ross last 6 nations. Missed the AIs with injury will be Irish first choice through the 6 nations. Tidy scrummager and strong around the park is a great carrier.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 17 Jan - 20:16

anonmattyt wrote:Missed the Sarries game earlier. Were they that good or were Munster that bad?

Thought it would be closer

Bit of both. Foley doesn't look to be up to the job at Munster. Pack intensity just not there at the moment.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 20:21

Sarries blew them away, looked really good. Farrell looked in good nick, scrum was strong.

by prop_lyd Sat 17 Jan - 21:54

Why did quins wait till 5 mins from end to sub props ?! Collier was shattered !

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 22:24

Such a shame he never recovered properly from injury.

Was incredible a few years ago.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9649449,00.html

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 22:26

Geech

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11352965/Six-players-England-must-pick-for-the-Six-Nations-by-Ian-McGeechan.html

by Fluxy Sat 17 Jan - 22:27

By the sounds of it Vunipola and Haskell are hitting form at the right time! Do we expect to see a them join up with Robshaw as our back row trio for six Nations? I'd like Haskell to be given a go in combination with Robshaw it has a bit more about it than Woodshaw

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 17 Jan - 22:37

Hask looked great tonight Flux. Tackled like a demon. Great defensive performance tonight.

by Guest Sat 17 Jan - 23:10

Fluxy wrote:By the sounds of it Vunipola and Haskell are hitting form at the right time! Do we expect to see a them join up with Robshaw as our back row trio for six Nations? I'd like Haskell to be given a go in combination with Robshaw it has a bit more about it than Woodshaw

Wood offers lineout though.
Apparently
Lancaster will name croft in 6 nations squad due to his lineout. We are quite reliant on Lawes and Wood for this aspect.

Haskell in immense form. Never really stormed it at int level.
I am not sure whether he is just a really good club/ european player or
A proper int player. His form
Is hard to ignore at the moment.
Better than robshaw if you went on form alone

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan - 23:11

anonmattyt wrote:Such a shame he never recovered properly from injury.

Was incredible a few years ago.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9649449,00.html

It happens, he's never quite been the same. Look at the state of Figallo etc, such a tough position

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 23:24

Wasps defence was brilliant - Haskell is having the best season he's ever had and Simpson was on top form again. Will be a great game at the Ricoh next week.

by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Jan - 23:46

Haskell playing really well. Wood's place in jeopardy although I suspect Lancaster won't change unless injury.

Anybody fancy Haskell at 8?

by Fluxy Sat 17 Jan - 23:48

More happy that Vunipola seems to be hitting some form for the six nations now Morgan is injured. Would like to Ewers give the bench spot for impact, and give Wood some time off ahead of World Cup and Saints run in.

by dammit_chris Sat 17 Jan - 23:50

Wouldn't play him at no8 for wasps - great defensive player, possibly best in the AP, but doesn't produce same level of performance when he's at no8.

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