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Post by The Saint Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:49 pm

Steffan wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:8k at ponty home games...really? ?
Well more like 9K...but I am playing it down a bit

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Just imagine the numbers through the Blues gate if you all supported your region too. Do the right thing Stef.

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:57 pm

The Saint wrote:
Steffan wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:8k at ponty home games...really? ?
Well more like 9K...but I am playing it down a bit

OLE Smile

Just imagine the numbers through the Blues gate if you all supported your region too. Do the right thing Stef.
Yeah because our "region" have done so much for us haven't they

Oh how I loved the day they dropped CARDIFF from the title or the day they decided to change the name to CARDIFF & VALLEYS BLUES to embrace the wider community

And who can forget all those games they brought to Sardis Road

Doing the right thing needs to work both ways

You wouldn't support the British & Irish Lions if they changed the name to the England Roses and Cardiff supporters would not go to watch if the "region" got bought out by someone who changed the name to PONTYPRIDD BLACK & WHITES and all games were at Sardis Road

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it and your pathetic WUM to suggest otherwise doesn't work here Smile

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Post by The Saint Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:00 pm

Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:02 pm

The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:09 pm

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:10 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:Cardiff Blues Season Thread 3 - Danny Wilson Appointed Head Coach - Page 6 1347041234
I wouldn't get too comfortable Dave as this clown seems to have run out of new ideas to wind me up already Smile

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:17 pm

Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

Here you go;
http://www.ponty.net/pontypridd-rfc-blues-player-allocation

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:27 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

Here you go;
http://www.ponty.net/pontypridd-rfc-blues-player-allocation
Yep. Cardiff Rugby Ltd sure are good at dishing us out the players that they don't want Smile

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:35 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:Cardiff Blues Season Thread 3 - Danny Wilson Appointed Head Coach - Page 6 1347041234
I wouldn't get too comfortable Dave as this clown seems to have run out of new ideas to wind me up already Smile

Not all of us come on here just to wind others up.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:47 pm

Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:
Steffan wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:8k at ponty home games...really? ?
Well more like 9K...but I am playing it down a bit

OLE Smile

Just imagine the numbers through the Blues gate if you all supported your region too. Do the right thing Stef.
Yeah because our "region" have done so much for us haven't they

Oh how I loved the day they dropped CARDIFF from the title or the day they decided to change the name to CARDIFF & VALLEYS BLUES to embrace the wider community

And who can forget all those games they brought to Sardis Road

Doing the right thing needs to work both ways

You wouldn't support the British & Irish Lions if they changed the name to the England Roses and Cardiff supporters would not go to watch if the "region" got bought out by someone who changed the name to PONTYPRIDD BLACK & WHITES and all games were at Sardis Road

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it and your pathetic WUM to suggest otherwise doesn't work here Smile

Its fascinating how a town about 10 miles away from Cardiff really dislike being under the brand name Cardiff Blues

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:55 pm

IronMike wrote:
Its fascinating how a town about 10 miles away from Cardiff really dislike being under the brand name Cardiff Blues
Not really. There is only about 5 miles between Tottenham and Arsenal football stadiums yet I doubt Spurs would ever wanna play under a Gunners banner and visa versa

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Post by The Saint Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:08 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:Cardiff Blues Season Thread 3 - Danny Wilson Appointed Head Coach - Page 6 1347041234
I wouldn't get too comfortable Dave as this clown seems to have run out of new ideas to wind me up already Smile

You were wound up?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:10 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

Here you go;
http://www.ponty.net/pontypridd-rfc-blues-player-allocation
Yep. Cardiff Rugby Ltd sure are good at dishing us out the players that they don't want  Smile

Your club accepts them though.
They'd be mad not to I guess. 20 players for free is a pretty good deal.

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:12 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

Here you go;
http://www.ponty.net/pontypridd-rfc-blues-player-allocation
Yep. Cardiff Rugby Ltd sure are good at dishing us out the players that they don't want  Smile

Your club accepts them though.
They'd be mad not to I guess. 20 players for free is a pretty good deal.
Dave what's going on you used to be cool (for a Cardiff Rugby Toff like). Since when did you join the Ponty hate squad?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:15 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

Here you go;
http://www.ponty.net/pontypridd-rfc-blues-player-allocation
Yep. Cardiff Rugby Ltd sure are good at dishing us out the players that they don't want  Smile

Your club accepts them though.
They'd be mad not to I guess. 20 players for free is a pretty good deal.
Dave what's going on you used to be cool (for a Cardiff Rugby Toff like). Since when did you join the Ponty hate squad?

I don't hate Ponty.

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:17 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:I don't hate Ponty.
Good. Given the players and coaches we have supplied you with I should hope not

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Post by GavinDragon Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:21 pm

Steffan wrote:
IronMike wrote:
Its fascinating how a town about 10 miles away from Cardiff really dislike being under the brand name Cardiff Blues
Not really. There is only about 5 miles between Tottenham and Arsenal football stadiums yet I doubt Spurs would ever wanna play under a Gunners banner and visa versa

major difference there is that both those clubs can bring in enough fans to sustain their professional teams which is something that no welsh club can do or will ever be able to do

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:22 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:
The Saint wrote:Guys like Humberstone, Dicomidis and McIntosh are doing well for themselves, and their region.
Yes and good for them. But once they become Cardiff Blues players/coaches that means nothing for Ponty supporters does it

Here you go;
http://www.ponty.net/pontypridd-rfc-blues-player-allocation
Yep. Cardiff Rugby Ltd sure are good at dishing us out the players that they don't want  Smile

Your club accepts them though.
They'd be mad not to I guess. 20 players for free is a pretty good deal.
Dave what's going on you used to be cool (for a Cardiff Rugby Toff like). Since when did you join the Ponty hate squad?

And this right here is the problem we have throughout wales in everything from rugby to politics to health to education. Everyone in the Valleys thinks that the 'towns' to the South are somehow superior in terms of social class, that they're posh, and that there is an 'us and them' mentality. It is handed down from generation to generation, to not associate with the posh town folk. It's absurd. It creates such ridiculous fear of travelling ridiculously short distances for work, education, recreation that we end up with this massive divide north of the M4. Like there's no problems in Newport, Cardiff and Swansea? That everyone is 'posh' - from an upper social class in the areas? Daft. The levels of deprivation are just as bad. Try telling someone from Ely that they are a toff.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:26 pm

Steffan wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:I don't hate Ponty.
Good. Given the players and coaches we have supplied you with I should hope not

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:27 pm

GavinDragon wrote:major difference there is that both those clubs can bring in enough fans to sustain their professional teams which is something that no welsh club can do or will ever be able to do
As far as I am aware the current pro 4 teams in Wales are happy enough with their attendances and sustain themselves fine even without the support of people who choose to watch Welsh Premiership (or lower level) rugby instead. And even if they were that desperate maybe taking a few games on the road to try and reach out to a wider audience and encourage people to support them wouldn't hurt. But they don't so clearly they are happy with the support they have already got

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:33 pm

Steffan, as I said above sticking with your club is fine. It's admirable to be honest. But I remember that the Blues wanted to take some games to Sardis but Ponty blocked it. Told them to F off. This was fairly recently. The last few years? So it's a bit rich to accuse them of not trying.

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:51 pm

Griff wrote:And this right here is the problem we have throughout wales in everything from rugby to politics to health to education. Everyone in the Valleys thinks that the 'towns' to the South are somehow superior in terms of social class, that they're posh, and that there is an 'us and them' mentality. It is handed down from generation to generation, to not associate with the posh town folk. It's absurd. It creates such ridiculous fear of travelling ridiculously short distances for work, education, recreation that we end up with this massive divide north of the M4. Like there's no problems in Newport, Cardiff and Swansea? That everyone is 'posh' - from an upper social class in the areas? Daft. The levels of deprivation are just as bad. Try telling someone from Ely that they are a toff.
I don't think that people from Cardiff are Toffs. I have worked, studied and lived in Cardiff. And as it goes my last long term girlfriend was from Ely and I lived with her quite a lot of the time down there (Caerau to be exact but same thing). I have also run a workshop in a school in that area and seen levels of deprivation. Outside of the well to do area's I actually find Cardiff to be pretty grim in the suburban areas some making parts of the valleys look like Beverly Hills

My Toff reference was to Cardiff rugby fans who have created the divide between Cardiff and Valleys rugby. I have experienced it first hand without provocation. The usual 'Oh us Cardiff supporters would never come to to Pontypridd for a game as we would probably get our cars pinched' and 'No I've never been to the Valleys but I heard the exit sign is the best part'

Yes there are people from the Valleys who believe that Cardiff is full of public school boys but then I know lots of people from Cardiff who believe that the Valleys are a native place full of neanderthals so it works both ways

I find that Cardiff City seems to have a good mixture of fans from the Valleys and the City but then I find that most Bluebirds fans from Cardiff don't have the same attitude towards Valleys people as the Cardiff Rugby lot do

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:55 pm

Griff wrote:Steffan, as I said above sticking with your club is fine. It's admirable to be honest. But I remember that the Blues wanted to take some games to Sardis but Ponty blocked it. Told them to F off. This was fairly recently. The last few years? So it's a bit rich to accuse them of not trying.
As far as I am aware Cardiff Blues have only ever tried to bring one game to Sardis and Ponty couldn't host it as the Silverball final had already been booked that day. I have no knowledge of Ponty telling the Blues to F off with any games and I am entriged if you can provide evidence to support this

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:11 pm

Steffan wrote:
Griff wrote:Steffan, as I said above sticking with your club is fine. It's admirable to be honest. But I remember that the Blues wanted to take some games to Sardis but Ponty blocked it. Told them to F off. This was fairly recently. The last few years? So it's a bit rich to accuse them of not trying.
As far as I am aware Cardiff Blues have only ever tried to bring one game to Sardis and Ponty couldn't host it as the Silverball final had already been booked that day. I have no knowledge of Ponty telling the Blues to F off with any games and I am entriged if you can provide evidence to support this


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-blues-plan-play-matches-2031356

http://www.ponty.net/valleys-rugby-response-to-cardiff-blues-plan-to-play-games-at-sardis-road




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Post by GavinDragon Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:12 pm

Steffan wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:major difference there is that both those clubs can bring in enough fans to sustain their professional teams which is something that no welsh club can do or will ever be able to do
As far as I am aware the current pro 4 teams in Wales are happy enough with their attendances and sustain themselves fine even without the support of people who choose to watch Welsh Premiership (or lower level) rugby instead. And even if they were that desperate maybe taking a few games on the road to try and reach out to a wider audience and encourage people to support them wouldn't hurt. But they don't so clearly they are happy with the support they have already got

agree with that

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Post by Steffan Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:18 pm

Griff wrote:
Steffan wrote:
Griff wrote:Steffan, as I said above sticking with your club is fine. It's admirable to be honest. But I remember that the Blues wanted to take some games to Sardis but Ponty blocked it. Told them to F off. This was fairly recently. The last few years? So it's a bit rich to accuse them of not trying.
As far as I am aware Cardiff Blues have only ever tried to bring one game to Sardis and Ponty couldn't host it as the Silverball final had already been booked that day. I have no knowledge of Ponty telling the Blues to F off with any games and I am entriged if you can provide evidence to support this


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-blues-plan-play-matches-2031356

http://www.ponty.net/valleys-rugby-response-to-cardiff-blues-plan-to-play-games-at-sardis-road
None of these links provide evidence that Ponty told them to F off though. Yes Adrian Hadley said it was 9 years too late but he does not represent Pontypridd RFC. And the Wales online link just says that the Blues were thinking about playing some games at Sardis and nothing was concrete and there is still no evidence that they were going to do this or that someone from Ponty told them they didn't want the games there. There is no way that Ponty a semi-professional club would turn down the revenue from a Blues LV cup match and to suggest they would do is just silly

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:32 pm

GavinDragon wrote:
Steffan wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:major difference there is that both those clubs can bring in enough fans to sustain their professional teams which is something that no welsh club can do or will ever be able to do
As far as I am aware the current pro 4 teams in Wales are happy enough with their attendances and sustain themselves fine even without the support of people who choose to watch Welsh Premiership (or lower level) rugby instead. And even if they were that desperate maybe taking a few games on the road to try and reach out to a wider audience and encourage people to support them wouldn't hurt. But they don't so clearly they are happy with the support they have already got

agree with that

Would the various sponsors be ok with that though plus those who have forked out £10k for a hospitality box at CAP?

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:42 pm

Hahahahahaha. Genius Dowlais. All we need to do is become purely just the Dragons and we'll become all conquering. Plus all these fans up the valleys will come marching down straight away.

Just because you see people in the Valleys wearing Ospreys tops means squat. I see loads of them walking round Risca too, but it means Jack as they aren't really supporting them if they never set foot in the Liberty.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:48 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
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LordDowlais wrote:I will always go down to the Arms park to watch Cardiff Blues for my sins
Bah...don't go wasting your money down there lining Peter Pies pockets. Get down to Sardis and watch a real team. Can we count in you to join the fellow eight thousand Ponty fans we get at every home game?

OLE Very Happy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/match/ERUP3764110

Attendance: 4,534

Wasn't this your biggest game of the season?

With all the disenfranchised fans between the two teams, you would think they'd have sold that out to prove a point.

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Post by GavinDragon Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:14 pm

Dave hospitality boxes against smaller sides rarely sell out. That's why there is always special offers at rp

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Post by The Saint Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:29 am

Risca Rev wrote:Hahahahahaha. Genius Dowlais. All we need to do is become purely just the Dragons and we'll become all conquering. Plus all these fans up the valleys will come marching down straight away.

Just because you see people in the Valleys wearing Ospreys tops means squat. I see loads of them walking round Risca too, but it means Jack as they aren't really supporting them if they never set foot in the Liberty.

I knew you'd tell him, but he never takes it on board. Wish the guy would stop ramming Ospreys down our throats all the time as well.

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Post by XR Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:53 am

Pontypridd fans need to get rid of this sense of entitlement. This whole 'we gave you players and coaches' line needs to stop too because in recent memory the players we've been 'given' (Humberstone, Dicomidis, Adam Thomas, Geraint Lewis) have been incredibly dreadful and are not pro standard but chancers who got contracts because the coaches knew them.

And speaking of the coaches, we have some of the worst attack and defence records in the league. Who coaches those areas?

As noted above, PRFC will accept the freebees of players and never pay a penny towards them yet they publicly will whinge about the blues in their programmes. Biting the hand that feeds. Without the blues allocation, they wouldn't be as dominant as they have been and although they'll deny it and never accept it, Pontypridd depend on the blues.

Imagine if the blues stacked Cardiff with all their contracted players...Ponty would suffer massively.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:21 am

gcBlues wrote:Pontypridd fans need to get rid of this sense of entitlement. This whole 'we gave you players and coaches' line needs to stop too because in recent memory the players we've been 'given' (Humberstone, Dicomidis, Adam Thomas, Geraint Lewis) have been incredibly dreadful and are not pro standard but chancers who got contracts because the coaches knew them.

And speaking of the coaches, we have some of the worst attack and defence records in the league. Who coaches those areas?

As noted above, PRFC will accept the freebees of players and never pay a penny towards them yet they publicly will whinge about the blues in their programmes. Biting the hand that feeds. Without the blues allocation, they wouldn't be as dominant as they have been and although they'll deny it and never accept it, Pontypridd depend on the blues.

Imagine if the blues stacked Cardiff with all their contracted players...Ponty would suffer massively.

Keep watching this space. Word is that we have too many players on the books.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:24 am

GavinDragon wrote:Dave hospitality boxes against smaller sides rarely sell out. That's why there is always special offers at rp

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Post by LordDowlais Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:24 am

With the social class thing that Steffan is going on about, he is right, I go to watch the Cardiff Blues a lot, and when I tell them that I am from Merthyr I get all the usual guff, most of the time it's just banter though, but some people do make the odd remark, I had one person say to me, that the valleys are not that bad, I saw a kid walking around in Nike trainers up there the other day, at first I though he was on the wind up, but after a few more other things I noticed he was being serious, I mean come on, it's not that bad up here. We do have some levels of civilization.

Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh. I sometimes feel that some people think Wales is like the Hunger Games story are, one nice posh futuristic capital, and all the valleys are like the districts. Laugh

But on a serious note, it does go both ways, people up here call the Cardiff people posh, and then we get labled as yokels, it does not bother me, when ever the banter starts down at the Arms Park I just tell them that I have just purchased a colour tele, that is where the name LordDowlais got its origins. laughing

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:35 am

LordDowlais wrote:With the social class thing that Steffan is going on about, he is right, I go to watch the Cardiff Blues a lot, and when I tell them that I am from Merthyr I get all the usual guff, most of the time it's just banter though, but some people do make the odd remark, I had one person say to me, that the valleys are not that bad, I saw a kid walking around in Nike trainers up there the other day, at first I though he was on the wind up, but after a few more other things I noticed he was being serious, I mean come on, it's not that bad up here. We do have some levels of civilization.

Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh. I sometimes feel that some people think Wales is like the Hunger Games story are, one nice posh futuristic capital, and all the valleys are like the districts. Laugh

But on a serious note, it does go both ways, people up here call the Cardiff people posh, and then we get labled as yokels, it does not bother me, when ever the banter starts down at the Arms Park I just tell them that I have just purchased a colour tele, that is where the name LordDowlais got its origins. laughing

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:42 am

The Saint wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:Hahahahahaha. Genius Dowlais. All we need to do is become purely just the Dragons and we'll become all conquering. Plus all these fans up the valleys will come marching down straight away.

Just because you see people in the Valleys wearing Ospreys tops means squat. I see loads of them walking round Risca too, but it means Jack as they aren't really supporting them if they never set foot in the Liberty.

I knew you'd tell him, but he never takes it on board. Wish the guy would stop ramming Ospreys down our throats all the time as well.

Isn't that how they make foie gras?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:15 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh.

D'you mean because our bogs are inside the house?

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Post by Coleman Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:47 pm

The Scarlets have signed a lock from the Tigers. Bit more weight to the Snyman rumour?

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Post by LordDowlais Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:29 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh.  

D'you mean because our bogs are inside the house?

Toilets....inside.....house...what sir is this great new world you speak of ? Please sir, tell me more. Are the streets paved with gold ?

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:38 am

LordDowlais wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh.  

D'you mean because our bogs are inside the house?

Toilets....inside.....house...what sir is this great new world you speak of ? Please sir, tell me more. Are the streets paved with gold ?

No, you're thinking of Roger Lewis's driveway.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:14 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh.  

D'you mean because our bogs are inside the house?

Toilets....inside.....house...what sir is this great new world you speak of ? Please sir, tell me more. Are the streets paved with gold ?

No, you're thinking of Roger Lewis's driveway.

and the runway at Rhoose airport.

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Post by tatterd Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:45 am

Programs like young welsh and pretty skint don't help Doh

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Post by The Saint Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:48 am

tatterd wrote:Programs like young welsh and pretty skint don't help Doh

That's 'reality' tv for you. Just look at MTVs the Valleys; never seen such poor acting in my life. I think most people are smart enough to not read too much into these programmes. That said, doesn't stop the The Valleys cast from getting assaulted in public, if what I heard is true.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:16 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
Not as nice as the Vale of Glamorgan, or Radyr though, those places are proper posh.  

D'you mean because our bogs are inside the house?

Toilets....inside.....house...what sir is this great new world you speak of ? Please sir, tell me more. Are the streets paved with gold ?

I lived up your way and had an outside bog too. Blydi freezing it was. Not that long ago either.

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Post by LordDowlais Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:08 am

Well, well, looks like the Arms park is having a 30million squid face lift:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/b ... um=twitter




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Post by LordDowlais Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:27 am

If you cannot get the above link to work this is what it tells us:-

A new £30m stadium for the Cardiff Blues could be realised after confirmation that the professional rugby region is looking to strike a long-term new lease agreement with commercial development options with its landlord Cardiff Athletic Club.

The club is in early stage negotiations with the athletic club, which owns the freehold interest to the BT Cardiff Arms Park, over securing a lease of more than a 100 years.

While no formal plans have been drawn up, the club could potentially build a new 15,000 capacity stadium and look to offset part of the required investment by realising commercial opportunities around any new ground, including residential and office schemes.

If a new stadium is constructed at 90 degrees to the existing ground, which has a capacity of 12,500, it could for example see apartments built at the River Taff end.

While the offer was subject to approval from the trustees of the athletic club and the backing of its members in its sporting sections of rugby, cricket, hockey, tennis and bowls, it had in principle backing.

However, the potential deal was shelved after the WRU and the four regions entered into a long-term dispute over funding for the professional game.

As well as the Cardiff Blues and the semi-professional Cardiff RFC, the only other section to use the Arms Park site is the bowls section.

The Blues recently tabled a bid, understood to be in region of £4m, to acquire the freehold interest in the Arms Park.

However, after that failed to progress, although potentially it could be revisited, the athletic club and the Blues are now in early stage discussions over a new long-term lease, with the rugby club looking for development options around any new stadium or revamped existing one.

With the commercial property market back to pre-recession levels any proposed developments on the lucrative site in the centre of Cardiff would attract strong interest – complementing any investment in a new stadium.

A new stadium could cost anything between £20m to £30m

The existing lease between the Blues and the Athletic Club expires in 2022. With the car parking income the Blues make an upside of several hundred thousand pounds a year on the lease.

Since returning to the ground, after what was ultimately a commercial failure as a tenant of the Cardiff City stadium – with a £1m cost to exit a lease with still 17 years to run in 2012 – the Blues has invested in the ground, including in a new artificial pitch at a cost of around £400,000.

However, the stadium is aging by modern rugby stadia standards and is deemed no longer fit purpose.

If a new stadium is constructed it could provide the opportunity for the WRU to invest in a new stand at the section of the Millennium Stadium which adjoins the main stand of the Arms Park.

That end of the ground incorporates part of the north stand of the former National Stadium and unlike the rest of the three-tiered arena only has two levels and no corporate hospitality boxes.

Cardiff Athletic Club view

Chairman of Cardiff Athletic Club, as well as being a board member of the Cardiff Blues, Keith Morgan, said the club and the Blues were aligned in wanting to see investment in the ground.

And he said the most likely way forward was agreeing a new long-term lease, for which the Blues would look for a term of at least 120 years.

Mr Morgan added: “We have set up a small working party and we have just entered into negotiations with the Blues on this.

“To make sure that the Blues are successful then we need a fit for purpose stadium looking forward over the long-term. Without regional rugby the stadium will fall into decay and we would not be able to maintain it.

“From my perspective as chairman for the last eight years the relationship between the athletic club and the Blues is as good, if not better, than it has ever been.

"With chief executive of the Blues Richard Holland we have worked extremely well together for the vast majority of the time, but as in any landlord-tenant relationship we don’t always see eye-to-eye."

Mr Holland said: “We are in early stage discussions with our landlords. At this stage we have no future comment to make, but hopefully we can stay at the BT Cardiff Arms Park for the long-term.”

If a lease is agreed, and the board of the Blues give the go-ahead for a new stadium, during its construction both the Cardiff Blues and Cardiff RFC could play their games at the Millennium Stadium.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:15 pm

LordDowlais wrote:Well, well, looks like the Arms park is having a 30million squid face lift:-

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/b ... um=twitter


Well smoke me a kipper, it's finally happening!
This is what I would call moving in the "right direction". Looks like a "rugby decision" too.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:58 pm

Would be wrong to have a swanky state of the art stadium, posh bogs included, without a decent team, so what's the plan for next season and beyond?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:23 pm

Meanwhile at Sardis today; Ponty 40-10 Cardiff.
Surprised this game kicked off while the Greens (Go Greens!) were playing at Dave Parade.


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