OWGR March 2015 How do Sagarin Rankings Compare

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Wow...Two weeks in a row, two players ranked #297 win on the PGATour.  Congratz to Paddy.  I got him at #82 in the Rankings.  

Paul Casey up to 45th in the Rankings and an invite to Cadillac this week.  James Hahn also backdoors an invite to Cadillac if he wants to leave his very pregnant wife.  No invite for Paddy though 

I haven't got the projections for #297 calculated. Sorry.  You will have to wait for the OWGR.

But I do have the top 100.  The number in parenthesis is the Sagarin Golfweek ranking for comparison.

 

1	Rory McIlroy (1)		11.266	*
2	Bubba Watson (12)		7.208	*
3	Henrik Stenson (7)		7.046	*
4	Jason Day (4)		6.755	*
5	Adam Scott (3)		6.650	*
6	Jim Furyk (2)		6.010	*
7	Sergio Garcia (6)		6.000	*
8	Justin Rose (8)		5.753	*
9	Jordan Spieth (9)		5.573	*
10	Martin Kaymer (53)		4.869	*
11	Rickie Fowler (18)		4.809	*
12	Matt Kuchar (5)		4.786	*
13	Jimmy Walker (14)		4.767	*
14	Hideki Matsuyama (22)		4.366	*
15	Patrick Reed (66)		4.193	*
16	Dustin Johnson (15)		4.165	*
17	Victor Dubuisson (64)		3.847	*
18	Billy Horschel (70)		3.824	*
19	Brooks Koepka (32)		3.732	*
20	Phil Mickelson (28)		3.662	*
21	Graeme McDowell (13)		3.564	*
22	Chris Kirk (21)		3.421	*
23	Jamie Donaldson (24)		3.382	*
24	Zach Johnson (15)		3.381	*
25	Bill Haas (11)		3.219	*
26	Hunter Mahan (55)		3.187	*
27	Lee Westwood (42)		3.133	*
28	Ian Poulter (47)		3.118	*
29	Ryan Palmer (17)		3.109	*
30	Kevin Na (30)		3.088	*
31	Charl Schwartzel (58)		2.995	*
32	Keegan Bradley (19)		2.949	*
33	Stephen Gallacher (98)		2.946	*
34	Joost Luiten (43)		2.909	*
35	Anirban Lahiri (74)		2.888
36	Ryan Moore (26)		2.886	*
37	Brandt Snedeker (23)		2.867	*
38	Thongchai Jaidee (36)		2.765	*
39	Bernd Wiesberger (68)		2.732
40	Branden Grace (130)		2.703
41	J.B. Holmes (57)		2.586	*
42	Shane Lowry (65)		2.536	*
43	Louis Oosthuizen (60)		2.526	*
44	Luke Donald (67)		2.516	*
45	Paul Casey (29)		2.478
46	Jason Dufner (87)		2.477	*
47	Gary Woodland (20)		2.456	*
48	Webb Simpson (76)		2.443	*
49	Danny Willett (16)		2.443	*
50	Thomas Bjorn (106)		2.428	*
51	Brendon Todd (41)		2.396	*
52	Miguel A Jimenez (157)		2.356	*
53	Marc Leishman (33)		2.348	*
54	Marc Warren (50)		2.337
55	Alexander Levy (51)		2.287
56	Russell Henley (85)		2.262	*
57	Harris English (86)		2.258
58	Andy Sullivan (163)		2.249
59	Tim Clark (192)		2.220	*
60	Mikko Ilonen (154)		2.220	*
61	Tommy Fleetwood (174)		2.212
62	John Senden (39)		2.211	*
63	Graham Delaet (34)		2.187
64	Francesco Molinari (25)		2.148
65	Marcel Siem (73)		2.125
66	Steve Stricker (10)		2.100	*
67	Kevin Streelman (149)		2.042	*
68	Charley Hoffman (49)		2.006	*
69	Ross Fisher (146)		2.005
70	Koumei Oda (104)		2.005
71	Ben Martin (147)		1.955	*
72	Jonas Blixt (269)		1.945	*
73	Daniel Berger (111)		1.908
74	Nick Watney (103)		1.885
75	Tiger Woods (~480)		1.865	*
76	Matt Jones (124)		1.841
77	Russell Knox (56)		1.821
78	Hiroshi Iwata (116)		1.814
79	Pablo Larrazabal (161)		1.773
80	Ernie Els (95)		1.766	*
81	Sangmoon Bae (123)		1.755	*
82	Padraig Harrington (336)		1.750	*
83	Robert Streb (45)		1.732	*
84	Brian Harman (77)		1.717	*
85	Kevin Stadler (83)		1.696	*
86	George Coetzee (236)		1.675
87	Brendon de Jonge (59)		1.662
88	Angel Cabrera (113)		1.642	*
89	Justin Thomas (37)		1.637
90	Gary Stal (112)		1.634
91	James Hahn (162)		1.627	*
92	Matt Every (202)		1.606
93	Scott Stallings (284)		1.582
94	Shingo Katayama (152)		1.581
95	Scott Hend (366)		1.569
96	Thorbjorn Olesen (255)		1.559
97	Brendan Steele   (48)		1.535
98	Cameron Tringale (54)		1.526
99	Scott Piercy (100)		1.488
100	Shawn Stefani (44)		1.486
101	Steven Bowditch (256)		1.478
102	Seungyul Noh (84)		1.456
103	Geoff Ogilvy (206)		1.444	*
104	Tomohiro Kondo (132)		1.443

Players with an asterisk (*) players have already secured an invite to the Masters.

That's great info GPB, Thanks.

But don't write George Coetzee off just yet.

And: It just goes to show what a chance the English patient missed last Sunday.

Really hoping Warren gets the result he needs.

Warren, Todd, Coetzee, and Hoffman have the best chance of passing Casey.

If three of them pass him, he is out of the Masters.

Arrivaderci Franny, whilst it looks like Siem is leaving Morocco.
Whilst Fish has confirmed the obvious.
Options for Augusta slowly reducing but Coetzee still going very strong.

Guesswork here, but am thinking that a Top 30 would lift Marc Warren past Dufner & Luke Donald and into the Top 50 - but perhaps Todd still has a say in that discussion?

kwinigolfer wrote:Guesswork here, but am thinking that a Top 30 would lift Marc Warren past Dufner & Luke Donald and into the Top 50 - but perhaps Todd still has a say in that discussion?

Attrition has already put Warren ahead of Dufner.

Warren needs the equivalent of 28th or better to pass Donald which is not looking likely.  Needs to finish the last two holes at -3 most likely.

E for Effort, GPB. Another good tournament for Warren.

kwinigolfer wrote:E for Effort, GPB. Another good tournament for Warren.

Not sure if a T30 something finish is a good tournament.

He needed to be two shots better to get into the Masters.

Every shot counts!!

You're a hard taskmaster GPB, looks pretty good to me . . . . .

kwinigolfer wrote:You're a hard taskmaster GPB, looks pretty good to me . . . . .

I think your standards change depending on what side of the pond the player is on.

IMO, T30 something does not qualify as a good tournament for someone trying to get a Masters invite.

Well, he was certainly in the top ten of those on the wrong side of the draw.

kwinigolfer wrote:Well, he was certainly in the top ten of those on the wrong side of the draw.

If you got a hammer and a nail, you can hang your hat on that.

Warren's got a decent record in the few US opportunities afforded by sponsors. In the past 24 months at least, his only US starts resulted in:
2013 PGA: 12th.
2014 PGA: 15th
2015 Cadillac: 17th

I'm sure that, given his continued progress, he'll continue that level of performance.

PS: As far as I can see, Warren finished T9 of those who played morning/afternoon, and we recorded early Thursday the split for Europeans vs marquee Americans.

Walker displaces Justin Rose in the top 10.  His highest ranking ever.

Spieth gets to a career best #4, passing Adam and J-Day.  Also his highest ranking ever.

No one gets an 11th hour invite to the Masters.  Unless a player wins Houston that has not qualified.

PD is reporting that Houston is in the 56/58 range.  and no one will catch Rory until after the Masters, even if #2 Henrik wins both tournaments.

Spieth could get to #2 next week, Garcia #4, Walker #5, Rose #7.

Ramsay and Wattel crash the Top 100 to 77th and 94th respectively.

Woods is down to 104th in the OWGR.  Probably falls another 10 spots this coming week.

Marc Warren is the equivalent of 0.6 points  (gross) from a Masters invite.

GPB wrote:Walker displaces Justin Rose in the top 10.  His highest ranking ever.

Spieth gets to a career best #4, passing Adam and J-Day.  Also his highest ranking ever.

No one gets an 11th hour invite to the Masters.  Unless a player wins Houston that has not qualified.

PD is reporting that Houston is in the 56/58 range.  and no one will catch Rory until after the Masters, even if #2 Henrik wins both tournaments.

Spieth could get to #2 next week, Garcia #4, Walker #5, Rose #7.

If Spieth got to number 2 then that's got to be the lowest aggregate age for the top 2 ever.

Bob_the_Job wrote:If Spieth got to number 2 then that's got to be the lowest aggregate age for the top 2 ever.

Indeed, probably the lowest age aggregate happened in 1998, when Tiger was 22 and Duval was 26

54 owgr points to the winner of the Shell game.

Anyone know what happened to shells wonderful world of golf?

Who hasn't watched the pine valley match several times?

Unfortunately I never have seen the Pine Valley match.  That was Hogan v Snead, Correct?

GPB

Littler v Nelson

Part 1 has been deleted but here is the rest of it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNS6E9-NQPE&list=PL53D11983FE5512A6

Surprised you watch something sponsored by Shell Mac, given your newly found green affiliations.

Super

I have voted green for a while now, but was very disappointed how big they went in for independence.

You vote Green? That's a wasted vote.

Super

What worthwhile vote do you cast?

I'd have thought someone like you who asserts to be politically astute would realise the policies of the green party can't be financed, not to mention some are just hysterically stupid, which is fine as they won't get in, but silly to have policies which are unattainable and even more silly to vote for them

Ok, so you don't vote green. But who do you vote for?

I haven't decided yet Mac, but that's irrelevant as we were discussing the hilarity of a green vote.

I would like to know who you have voted for in the past?

Mostly Lib Dem due to the constituency in which I lived. Don't think I would now though.

Wow, the almost tea partyesque right winger actually votes lib dem. So you are actually a "yoghurt knitting" liberal like me?

I've no idea why you think I'm a right winger Mac, most parties have something decent about their policies and a lot of rubbish ones. I couldn't affiliate to any one of them in particular, but sometimes you have to vote out of apathy for the others, or tactically. This time around it will be whatever keeps the SNP out.

So you will be voting for labour this year?

Haven't checked out the dynamic of my constituency, but I may have to.

Super

I assume you are right wing as over the years you have taken right wing positons on the following

the economy
welfare
taxation
womens rights
LGBT issues
justice

And probably more. I would be interested to hear what area's of policy you consider yourself to hold a more socialist position?

When have I ever mentioned anything about Women's Rights or LGBT?

I think this thread's been hijacked enough, don't you?

It's pretty dead anyway Ladyputt.

I still don't know who Sagarin is :P

Davie wrote:I still don't know who Sagarin is :P

Whoever he is he thinks Furyk is currently the words best player. Oops.

http://rankings.golfweek.com/rankings/default.asp?T=world

Odd circumstances:

Lefty should get back inside the top 15 should he win this week from #21.

Tiger should get inside the top 20 should he win next week, and he will be drop to at least #110 this week.

Has there ever been a case where a player has been in the top 50 going into Masters week but didn't qualify!?


Wasn't Rose in the top 50 once and didn't qualify for the US Open? Or am I totally wrong here lol

Think you're totally right - they changed their cut-off rule as a result and opened the exemption to Top 60!

sirbenson wrote:Has there ever been a case where a player has been in the top 50 going into Masters week but didn't qualify!?

Its probably going to happen this year.  Marc Warren is projected at #49 as of this morning.  Moving ahead of Willett and Donald.

Yeah, just saw that from VC 606 on twitter! That's a shame tbh

sirbenson wrote:Yeah, just saw that from VC 606 on twitter! That's a shame tbh

 
Yep, he ended up 50th this week.  I just posted a new OWGR thread for April.

GPB wrote:

sirbenson wrote:Yeah, just saw that from VC 606 on twitter! That's a shame tbh

 
Yep, he ended up 50th this week.  I just posted a new OWGR thread for April.

I saw fantastic work!!!