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Post by George Carlin Mon 16 Mar 2015, 2:33 pm

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ITALY v WALES
Saturday 21 March 2015
KO: 13:30 (local)/12:30 (UK/Ireland)
Stadio Olimpico, Rome

Referee: Chris Pollock (NZR)
AR1: JP Doyle (RFU)
AR2: Luke Pearce (RFU)
TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)

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A. Teams

ITALY
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Luke McClean (Sale Sharks); Leonardo Sarto (Zebre Rugby), Luca Morisi (Benetton Treviso), Andrea Masi (London Wasps), Giovambattista Venditti (Zebre Rugby); Kelly Haimona (Zebre Rugby), Edoardo Gori (Benetton Treviso); 1 Michele Rizzo (Leicester Tigers), Leonardo Ghiraldini (Leicester Tigers, capt), Martin Castrogiovanni (RT Toulon), George Biagi (Zebre Rugby), Joshua Furno (Newcastle Falcons), Francesco Minto (Benetton Treviso), Mauro Bergamasco (Zebre Rugby), Samuela VUNISA (Zebre Rugby)

Replacements: Andrea Manici (Zebre Rugby), Alberto De Marchi (Sale Sharks), Dario Chistolini (Zebre Rugby), Quintin Geldenhuys (Zebre Rugby), Robert Barbieri (Leicester Tigers), Guglielmo Palazzini (Zebre Rugby), Luciano Orquera (Zebre Rugby), Enrico Bacchin (Benetton Treviso).

WALES
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Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon); George North (Northampton Saints), Jonathan Davies (ASM Clermont Auvergne), Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro), Liam Williams (Scarlets); Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Rhys Webb (Ospreys); Rob Evans (Scarlets), Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys), Luke Charteris (Racing Metro), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Dan Lydiate (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues, capt), Taulupe Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons).

Replacements: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Rhys Gill (Saracens), Scott Andrews (Cardiff Blues), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets), Scott Williams (Scarlets).

B. Head to Head

15 Played 15

2 Wins 12

12 Losses 2

1 Draws 1

19 Tries 49

12 Conversions 40

31 Penalties 45

4 Drop Goals 1

224 Points 463


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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:54 pm

might aswell switch off till the last 20 minutes when Italy fall apart

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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:56 pm

glad ii didnt turn off! could be an interesting game

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Post by Nachos Jones_1 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:56 pm

What a well worked try from Italy clap

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:57 pm

Italy more dangerous than Ireland in attack.

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Post by Notch Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:58 pm

Cracking score, all based on the maul, this will be interesting- that could be a massive score. Another 7 points that needs to be clawed back.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:58 pm

I have been very impressed by the Italian attack this year, but this also shows just how bad have Ireland been with ball in hand, especially last weekend.

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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:59 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I have been very impressed by the Italian attack this year, but this also shows just how bad have Ireland been with ball in hand, especially last weekend.

just think they need to work on there defense and conditioning.

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Post by Notch Sat 21 Mar 2015, 12:59 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I have been very impressed by the Italian attack this year, but this also shows just how bad have Ireland been with ball in hand, especially last weekend.

I think it's fair to say that the intensity hasn't been the same for Wales so far.
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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:00 pm

30 minutes gone already

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Post by The Saint Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:00 pm

We'll be lucky to win, never mind get all the points. It's just too sloppy and error-strewn from Wales, and from a fan perspective that's just unacceptable.

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Post by HQ matt Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:00 pm

scrums a good platform for italy

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:01 pm

All falling apart for Wales here. Oh dear oh dear.

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Post by Gwlad Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:01 pm

so sick of players chatting to linesman on every single breakdown and scrum…

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Post by Golden Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:02 pm

funny to see wales traditional strength and weaknesses have reversed this year with a very good lineout and weakish scrum

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Post by The Saint Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:02 pm

TheRugbyMaster wrote:All falling apart for Wales here. Oh dear oh dear.

Where's Wayne Barnes when you need him eh.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:03 pm

Good to see Italy fighting after last weeks disappointment, but I have to say I'm fed up already of players talking to the ref and waving their arms at every breakdown, just play the game!
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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:03 pm

hate seeing Lydiate using that tackling technique, i can it doing some damage to someones legs at some point

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Post by Nachos Jones_1 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:04 pm

Wales are feeling the loss of Lee in the front row, being clearly beaten in the scrum.

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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:05 pm

how is that not a penalty to italy for the welsh player playing it on the floor?

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Post by The Saint Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:05 pm

nathan wrote:hate seeing Lydiate using that tackling technique, i can it doing some damage to someones legs at some point

He isn't the only player that does it though.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:06 pm

Roberts was never on his feet there
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Post by Nachos Jones_1 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:06 pm

That's 1/2p gone.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:06 pm

Kids that's how not to tackle
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:06 pm

Playing the ball on the floor, clear penalty at least in such a good attacking position, disgraceful that he got away with that.

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Post by Notch Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:07 pm

Vunisa on Halfpenny, incredibly nasty. I doubt he will be back on. Very worrying.
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Post by Golden Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:07 pm

ouch knee to the face.

that the second time this competition 1/2p has taken a knee to the head. unlcky and a big blow if hes off for the game

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Post by bluestonevedder Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:07 pm

Surely Halfpenny's game over.

He's so brave in defence, but gets his head on the wrong side so often.

Hope he's ok.

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Post by Nachos Jones_1 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:07 pm

nathan wrote:hate seeing Lydiate using that tackling technique, i can it doing some damage to someones legs at some point

I am not against it, think its a very effective tackle that generates turnovers.

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Post by TheRugbyMaster Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:08 pm

Wales showing that famous mental frailty here unfortunately. Put the cart ahead of the horse and now their campaign is hanging by a thread.

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Post by Heaf Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:08 pm

not in a million years was he on his feet - let off for Wales there

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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:09 pm

The Saint wrote:
nathan wrote:hate seeing Lydiate using that tackling technique, i can it doing some damage to someones legs at some point

He isn't the only player that does it though.

i know, i think it needs taking out of the game. Having said that, there haven't been loads of injuries caused from it but for me, still think its dangerous.

Nothing against Lydiate

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Post by The Saint Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:09 pm

Another knock-on, it's just shyte and unprofessional play.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:09 pm

I don't think italy are missing Sergio.
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:11 pm

Castro still has it
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Post by Guest Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:11 pm

Rob Evans has a bit of a point about Castro's binding, but he is going to get a yellow soon.

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Post by Notch Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:11 pm

Golden wrote:ouch knee to the face.

that the second time this competition 1/2p has taken a knee to the head. unlcky and a big blow if hes off for the game

Especially as Scott Williams would have a lot more impact coming on at centre in the second half.

You've got to feel for Rob Evans. Castro is up to all his usual ticks and he has a huge amount o weight behind him!
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Post by The Saint Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:11 pm

Ref is being extremely harsh on Rob Evans. Hasn't had a word with Castro yet despite early push, boring in and pulling the scrum down. Not that Evans is innocent, I just think it's an inconsistent call.

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Post by Notch Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:12 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Rob Evans has a bit of a point about Castro's binding, but he is going to get a yellow soon.

Castro never binds properly, usually gets away with it. Knows what he can get away with too.
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:12 pm

Harsh offside there
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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:13 pm

Notch wrote:
Golden wrote:ouch knee to the face.

that the second time this competition 1/2p has taken a knee to the head. unlcky and a big blow if hes off for the game

Especially as Scott Williams would have a lot more impact coming on at centre in the second half.

You've got to feel for Rob Evans. Castro is up to all his usual ticks and he has a huge amount o weight behind him!

the welsh pack is alot heavier than the italian one if thats what you mean?

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Post by Nachos Jones_1 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:14 pm

Wales need some composure here, should have taken the points...

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Post by Guest Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:15 pm

Notch wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:Rob Evans has a bit of a point about Castro's binding, but he is going to get a yellow soon.

Castro never binds properly, usually gets away with it. Knows what he can get away with too.

Yeah, that's what I mean really by a bit of a point. Not many refs and especially touchies look at the binding on the arm.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:15 pm

They are now
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Post by The Saint Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:16 pm

We need points. Our lineout and driving maul has been good throughout the tournament. We have one and Italy concede two penalties. After no advantage, we decide to shoot for 3 points instead of going for another lineout where we could and probably would have got 5-7. This game is just littered with errors and poor decision-making.

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Post by Guest Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:17 pm

Take that at HT. We aren't going to win the Championship (and that was never going to happen realistically), but I am more than happy if we get four wins after losing our first one.

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Post by Guest Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:17 pm

Very poor errors. We are guilty of forcing it a lot.

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Post by Heaf Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:17 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Harsh offside there

Harsh as in wrong ...

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Post by Notch Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:17 pm

nathan wrote:
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Golden wrote:ouch knee to the face.

that the second time this competition 1/2p has taken a knee to the head. unlcky and a big blow if hes off for the game

Especially as Scott Williams would have a lot more impact coming on at centre in the second half.

You've got to feel for Rob Evans. Castro is up to all his usual ticks and he has a huge amount o weight behind him!

the welsh pack is alot heavier than the italian one if thats what you mean?

I would say that one back five is putting a lot more in than the other on the Italian put-in.

So Wales probably need about +30 points or more in the second half. An exciting final quarter because they'll have to take some big risks.
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Post by nathan Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:18 pm

fear not saint, im sure they will get the hairdryer treatment in the changing room

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Post by BamBam Sat 21 Mar 2015, 1:18 pm

Fancy Wales to get a quick score in the second half and make this interesting

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