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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:42 pm

This week's task is one that you will all enjoy, a classic task that brings out the fondest memories for all Azzrentice fans.

I am going to give you $6bn. With that $6bn, I want you to build a new football team. From scratch. I expect the following:

- Select which of the major professional leagues you want to play in, and why. I will arrange for your team to be placed into the top division of whichever country you select.
- Choose a team name that reflects well on the city, town or region you have decided to be based in
- Build a stadium, youth facilities, everything a club needs to be a success
- Buy a squad of players, bearing in mind FFP. Use TM values for all players.
- Bring in your own staff, manager, coaches etc
- With all this, you need to keep in mind that you will need to ensure once the money is spent, the club looks after itself - wages, sponsorship, tv money, everything has to balance (or at least comply with FFP)

From the losing team, at least one of you will be fired.
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:45 pm

I don't know if Viva is going to participate, I'll assume not until I hear otherwise.

Firstly I think we should be in the top division of a country. We get access to more fans and prize money which helps us with FFP (key to the task I suspect)

We need to budget a stadium (council input, naming rights value etc), the right area and country. Playing staff and coaches fall after this for me I think
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Post by Azzy Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:49 pm

Bookmarked. Good luck to the three of you.

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:49 pm

Has Viva quit or not
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Post by Marky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 12:56 pm

Of course he hasn't, he's attention seeking.

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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:09 pm

I agree with your points GSC, just some brainstorming from me:

I think that the Premier League would be great as it has got to be one of if not the biggest for getting TV Payments, sponsorship etc.

However, if our club isn’t successful then we could be in trouble so perhaps another league? I suppose it could be said for any league though.

I like the idea of being a club similar to Ajax in terms of bringing through youth but I feel that we shouldn’t need to sell players if we don’t want to but if we do, to make a profit on them.

Stadium and location will depend on what country, but I feel being easy to access from public transport etc would be beneficial.

Not sure if I am pointing out the obvious or not? What do you think?

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:15 pm

No I agree with those points. I think also the PL has parachute payments going for it.

In terms of location, wed be looking for a city without an established club, I.e Nottingham/Derby might not have PL football but we aren't eating into the fanbases of the existing clubs easily. Londons lucrative but overcrowded I feel.

Happy for you to take the lead on the players, staff, style etc once we have the facilities in place and a budget agreed. Id also agree that younger is better, ascending players with ascending transfer fees even if we don't have to sell.
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:18 pm

Another option could be to look into renting a ground like the Ricoh, save short term costs, possibly agree a fee with Coventry to ground share (they could use cash)
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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:26 pm

I'm more comfortable doing that than the finance side of stuff being honest from the start, I can help out in it though, saying that I would appreciate input on the team building if possible. Good point raised about being in a location where there isn't a team yet or too many teams.


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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:28 pm

Yeah that's cool. I thought team builder was more your strength than mine, though we should both have input on all parts
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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:31 pm

I agree with having input on all parts.

I am okay at building teams, I like to get input from others too.

I've been looking around at forums and stuff for cities and teams and the ones I have looked at have teams albeit some of them are lower league.

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:34 pm

Early days, but I think the PL is probably the right call. We have no need to negotiate any TV deals, lucrative sponsorship opportunities and good brand awareness should aid us with FFP, which I would imagine is a key part of this task.

For me its worth paying for sustainability in the PL than having cash to spend in a different league but being handicapped by FFP and unable to spend it.
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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:46 pm

That sounds good so it looks like he Premier League is the one.

Team name is kind of reliant on where we choose to go. I read on a forum when researching that as an example Bedfordshire doesn't have a team like I imagine it means higher up and looking at the list it doesn't seem like there is one in the higher leagues.

Azzy mentions region in the OP, perhaps this could be an option?

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:54 pm

Mmm. I'm toying with the idea of the Ricoh arena, ready built, has transport links in place etc. Obviously wed be competing with Coventry City but not sure we couldn't coexist.

Would have to price it up vs a brand new stadium.
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:54 pm

Also because Azzys been special in the OP, its around 4 billion in pounds
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:57 pm

Scratch that,didn't realise Wasps had bought it
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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 1:59 pm

Okay, fair enough.

Do you want me to do anything in particular at the moment to help out?

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:01 pm

If you have any ideas shout them out.

Otherwise you can take a look at staff and players you'd want
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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:04 pm

Okay, what about budget, I realise it is probably dependent on our stadium costs etc but to get a general idea of how much we will have to spend on a squad? I assume we are allowed to pick our coaches from current teams and our manager too?

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:09 pm

I believe so. More of a preliminary look for now, ill try and balance off prize money etc tonight
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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:09 pm

Okay mate, cheers.

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Post by Holymiky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:49 pm

GSC for info - Viva said he's taking part.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:53 pm

I didn't know a second task was up until Miky pointed it out.

Hi guys, Premier League is the league to be like GSC said even if we were to go down the parachute payments will help.
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 2:57 pm

Hey Viva. Any chance you can take a look at potential spots. Rather not be in the middle of nowhere, or have too much competition for fans
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 3:08 pm

I'll start looking.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 3:46 pm

http://www.myfootygrounds.co.uk/AreaMap.asp?view=ENGLAND

I've found this website which shows the 92 teams in England. Lancashire, Yorkshire, London and the Midlands are paccked full of teams.

How about on the border of Wales and England?
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 3:53 pm

Trying to find a reasonable population, Lincoln?
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:04 pm

ANy big teams by Lincoln?
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:08 pm

There's Lincoln and Boston, neithers above conference
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:11 pm

That means we have to make our own stadium?
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Post by Marky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:15 pm

Viva gets it thumbsup


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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:17 pm

Yeah I think so. Unless you can think of any opportunities like the Ricoh where we don't have to?
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:20 pm

I've just though of an idea.

Darlington have an empty 25,000 stadium (the Darlington Arena) and no professional team, only close rival would be Middlesbrough but worth considering.

What do you reckon?
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:21 pm

Laugh
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Post by Marky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:22 pm

Ok!

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:23 pm

Think id have to say no on the basis of:

Attendances for football matches were restricted to 10,000 by local planning regulations,[2] because of poor access roads around the stadium, although the club was allowed to apply for an exception for special occasions

Doesn't seem like itd work for PL
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Post by Marky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:24 pm

Perhaps Viva could suggest spending a couple of million in the surrounding roads which is still massively cheaper than building a new stadium?

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Post by Azzy Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:27 pm

For what it's worth, the task manager of Team Integrity will have minus points against him if he continues to allow contributions from non-team members.

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:28 pm

Laugh

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Post by Marky Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:30 pm

Considering I should be here in Viva's place I find your input unnecessary OK

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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:31 pm

He has a point though. We are Team Integrity
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:32 pm

Large catchment area, no top flight team nearby how about Bristol?
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:35 pm

There's Bristol City and Rovers no?
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:36 pm

Ones in the conference and the other players with Crawley in the basement of English football.
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:39 pm

They also just won at Wembley doe?

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:43 pm

Ok.

Lincoln front runner at the moment? I'll have a look tonight if there's anywhere else we could possibly make our home.
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Post by GSC Tue 24 Mar 2015, 4:44 pm

Cool.
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Post by GSC Wed 25 Mar 2015, 9:38 am

Sorry guys, crashed majorly last night. Had a quick look this morning, the Amex which is a decent target for what Id like cost 93m to build according to wikipedia. Dunno what % of that you could get from the council and naming rights.

I'm comfortable with the welsh border region if there's a decent base there
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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 25 Mar 2015, 10:57 am

That means we'll be competing with Brighton?
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Post by GSC Wed 25 Mar 2015, 11:01 am

I mean in terms of structure, capacity of stadium etc.
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