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Ten Conclusions from Mayweather - Manny !!
First topic message reminder :
1. All the posters who hate Mayweather had the fight close or thought Manny won.....
2. If you couldn't give Manny the victory and you're a fan then it was a stinker......
3. Mayweather has just outboxed the 3rd best fighter on the planet........
4. The Filipino needs to get back onto the shakes.......
5. Shoulder injury shows him to be the classless guy I always thought he was deep down....
6. Mayweather isn't going to get credit off certain individuals no matter what he does........
7. If 606v2 radio had Manny 116-112......I'll never moan about Watt and Halling again...
8. It didn't live up to the hype.............Very few fights ever do..
9. Roach isn't the genius he thinks he is !!
10. If Floyd isn't Top 10 in most lists he must be very close !!.
1. All the posters who hate Mayweather had the fight close or thought Manny won.....
2. If you couldn't give Manny the victory and you're a fan then it was a stinker......
3. Mayweather has just outboxed the 3rd best fighter on the planet........
4. The Filipino needs to get back onto the shakes.......
5. Shoulder injury shows him to be the classless guy I always thought he was deep down....
6. Mayweather isn't going to get credit off certain individuals no matter what he does........
7. If 606v2 radio had Manny 116-112......I'll never moan about Watt and Halling again...
8. It didn't live up to the hype.............Very few fights ever do..
9. Roach isn't the genius he thinks he is !!
10. If Floyd isn't Top 10 in most lists he must be very close !!.
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40680
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Floyd didn't care how bad he looked in that fight cuz he knew the fix was in.
Good old uncle Dave Moretti, so reliable.
Good old uncle Dave Moretti, so reliable.
Dylan1979- Posts : 224
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Is there any fight you don't think was a fix?
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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The only fix was Manny trying to claim injury afterwards and then a few months later claming he'd won.
and with hindsight, i'd make it 11 conclusions with
11. Manny fans will never accept him being beat
and with hindsight, i'd make it 11 conclusions with
11. Manny fans will never accept him being beat
Derbymanc- Posts : 4008
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Derbymanc wrote:The only fix was Manny trying to claim injury afterwards and then a few months later claming he'd won.
and with hindsight, i'd make it 11 conclusions with
11. Manny fans will never accept him being beat
He lost to Marquez fair and square in their 3rd fight. Don't know how Manny got the decision.
His face as the decision was read out said it all. I watched it with a few Manny fans, all thought he lost.
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Is there any fight you don't think was a fix?
What's the matter? Can't you ever call a fight straight down the line, even when your
idol is involved?
Bet you thought Bernard 'Special' Hopkins beat Calzaghe and J Taylor twice.
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The fix was definitely in on that fight then. Shows Manny's got form for it ;-)
Class fight with Mayweather though (I know people didn't but I really enjoyed it) and thought Manny just didn't have a clue on how to deal with the defensive nuonces that Floyd had. Should have been a bit more graceful in defeat and he may have got the rematch he wanted, why he thought Floyd would grant him the rematch after acting like a brat is beyond me (lets be honest, Floyds as much a brat most of the time :-)
Class fight with Mayweather though (I know people didn't but I really enjoyed it) and thought Manny just didn't have a clue on how to deal with the defensive nuonces that Floyd had. Should have been a bit more graceful in defeat and he may have got the rematch he wanted, why he thought Floyd would grant him the rematch after acting like a brat is beyond me (lets be honest, Floyds as much a brat most of the time :-)
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Is there any fight you don't think was a fix?
Bet you think Broner really did beat Granados too right?
Dylan1979- Posts : 224
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Your point 1 is wrong truss
I'm a Floyd fan not a fan boy
I thought the fight was damn close
Only fan boys think otherwise
I wish people would stop pretending what happened
Defence nuances?
Oh man wtf are you talking about
Manny didn't have as much trouble hitting him as you are saying
Manny made Floyd miss a lot
Most of the time he tried the left hook he missed
Floyds most effective punch was a jab
Make up your own reality though
It was a great fight between two of the best fighters of our generation
It's been micro analysed more than any other fight
You can give your opinion of what you think happened till you are blue in the face of you want to
But the analysis doesn't lie
And it's far more accurate than your eyes in real time
These same fan boys think ward beat kovalev
It's just absolute nonsense
You don't win fights being defensive
You win by landing punches
I'm a Floyd fan not a fan boy
I thought the fight was damn close
Only fan boys think otherwise
I wish people would stop pretending what happened
Defence nuances?
Oh man wtf are you talking about
Manny didn't have as much trouble hitting him as you are saying
Manny made Floyd miss a lot
Most of the time he tried the left hook he missed
Floyds most effective punch was a jab
Make up your own reality though
It was a great fight between two of the best fighters of our generation
It's been micro analysed more than any other fight
You can give your opinion of what you think happened till you are blue in the face of you want to
But the analysis doesn't lie
And it's far more accurate than your eyes in real time
These same fan boys think ward beat kovalev
It's just absolute nonsense
You don't win fights being defensive
You win by landing punches
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There's me thinking Boxing is the sport of punching, not evading.
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5. Shoulder injury shows him to be the classless guy I always thought he was deep down....
Classless guy?
So how do you explain :
Beating up women, several times
Won't even take his own children to school
Vegas hookers....REAL class!!
"I'm a coward, but I'm a rich coward"
Trying to get Iron Mike sent to prison because Mike f*cked his girl back in 02/03
I'm sure there's a whole lot more.
Classless guy?
So how do you explain :
Beating up women, several times
Won't even take his own children to school
Vegas hookers....REAL class!!
"I'm a coward, but I'm a rich coward"
Trying to get Iron Mike sent to prison because Mike f*cked his girl back in 02/03
I'm sure there's a whole lot more.
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http://boxingjunkie.usatoday.com/2015/04/30/floyd-mayweather-mike-tyson-feud-goes-back-to-police-raid/
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Those ten points by Truss do make me laugh.
What up Truss? You scared that the good old USI is losing it's stranglehold on Boxing?
What up Truss? You scared that the good old USI is losing it's stranglehold on Boxing?
Dylan1979- Posts : 224
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Boxingfan88, the rounds were close, but Floyd won at least 8 rounds. That slow time sh1t is balls. Manny Fanboys trying to justify what really happened.
Manny did make Floyd miss a lot, just not as much as he missed himself. Wasn't a master class, but Floyd was a clear enough winner.
Manny did make Floyd miss a lot, just not as much as he missed himself. Wasn't a master class, but Floyd was a clear enough winner.
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Watch his feet, and watch his slips BF, the fight that made me appreciate defensive maneauvres more than any others. (Probably helps that i'd just been learning about it on the course too)
I had Floyd winning it by more than a few as Manny just looked clueless.
And boxing is not just about getting hit, it's a number of things (although as my lil lads more defensive minded i would say that ;-)
Both have shown they're classless Dylan although what Floyd's 'feud' with Tyson has to do with him and Manny is beyond me.
I had Floyd winning it by more than a few as Manny just looked clueless.
And boxing is not just about getting hit, it's a number of things (although as my lil lads more defensive minded i would say that ;-)
Both have shown they're classless Dylan although what Floyd's 'feud' with Tyson has to do with him and Manny is beyond me.
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Dylan1979 wrote:Hammersmith harrier wrote:Is there any fight you don't think was a fix?
What's the matter? Can't you ever call a fight straight down the line, even when your
idol is involved?
Bet you thought Bernard 'Special' Hopkins beat Calzaghe and J Taylor twice.
So you think the whole thing was a set up?
It seems a growing trend that Black American boxers only win when it's fixed, call me cynical but there's strong racial undertones to all your views.
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How can anybody actually believe Manny beat Floyd? Is this still even a discussion. I still remember watching it thinking two things for most of the fight.... 1 was I wish I hadn't set my alarm for this and just watched the repeat in the morning, and number 2 was Floyd is making Manny look average.
I'm not interested in super slow mo analysis, it means nothing because boxing is juged with the naked eye. So end of story right there. And just because there is video of Roger Mayweather telling Floyd they're favouring Manny mid way through the fight means absolutely nothing. It's called motivation.
Some people need to get over it. Over hyped, over due, boring fight. Simple as that.
I'm not interested in super slow mo analysis, it means nothing because boxing is juged with the naked eye. So end of story right there. And just because there is video of Roger Mayweather telling Floyd they're favouring Manny mid way through the fight means absolutely nothing. It's called motivation.
Some people need to get over it. Over hyped, over due, boring fight. Simple as that.
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EX7EY wrote:How can anybody actually believe Manny beat Floyd? Is this still even a discussion. I still remember watching it thinking two things for most of the fight.... 1 was I wish I hadn't set my alarm for this and just watched the repeat in the morning, and number 2 was Floyd is making Manny look average.
I'm not interested in super slow mo analysis, it means nothing because boxing is juged with the naked eye. So end of story right there. And just because there is video of Roger Mayweather telling Floyd they're favouring Manny mid way through the fight means absolutely nothing. It's called motivation.
Some people need to get over it. Over hyped, over due, boring fight. Simple as that.
This is what I have a problem with
Its absolute nonsense
I can't stand the fact that people can't give Manny credit for his fantastic performance on that night
His defensive game was spot on, his countering was excellent
Anyone who thinks it was a one sided schooling just makes me laugh, because its not what I saw, its not what most of the world saw
Its what some of the UK and American fans saw because its what the commentators wanted you to see, the rest of the world is laughing hard at you
The analysis just doesn't lie
'Manny looked clueless', one of the funniest fallacies I've heard about that fight
You even contradicted your own statement, boxing is judged with the naked eye, fine, so the result is what the result is
Every single person who says that exact thing, has the same opinion, "Its a one sided schooling"
That just shows me you don't want to see it, not that it didn't happen, you cannot see in real time what lands and what doesn't I will guarantee you that for a fact
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Dylan1979 wrote:Hammersmith harrier wrote:Is there any fight you don't think was a fix?
What's the matter? Can't you ever call a fight straight down the line, even when your
idol is involved?
Bet you thought Bernard 'Special' Hopkins beat Calzaghe and J Taylor twice.
So you think the whole thing was a set up?
It seems a growing trend that Black American boxers only win when it's fixed, call me cynical but there's strong racial undertones to all your views.
Are you thick or something?
I clearly stated that Manny got a gift against marquez in fight number 3.
Always gotta play the race card huh!!
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BoxingFan88 wrote:EX7EY wrote:How can anybody actually believe Manny beat Floyd? Is this still even a discussion. I still remember watching it thinking two things for most of the fight.... 1 was I wish I hadn't set my alarm for this and just watched the repeat in the morning, and number 2 was Floyd is making Manny look average.
I'm not interested in super slow mo analysis, it means nothing because boxing is juged with the naked eye. So end of story right there. And just because there is video of Roger Mayweather telling Floyd they're favouring Manny mid way through the fight means absolutely nothing. It's called motivation.
Some people need to get over it. Over hyped, over due, boring fight. Simple as that.
This is what I have a problem with
Its absolute nonsense
I can't stand the fact that people can't give Manny credit for his fantastic performance on that night
His defensive game was spot on, his countering was excellent
Anyone who thinks it was a one sided schooling just makes me laugh, because its not what I saw, its not what most of the world saw
Its what some of the UK and American fans saw because its what the commentators wanted you to see, the rest of the world is laughing hard at you
The analysis just doesn't lie
'Manny looked clueless', one of the funniest fallacies I've heard about that fight
You even contradicted your own statement, boxing is judged with the naked eye, fine, so the result is what the result is
Every single person who says that exact thing, has the same opinion, "Its a one sided schooling"
That just shows me you don't want to see it, not that it didn't happen, you cannot see in real time what lands and what doesn't I will guarantee you that for a fact
Them slow mo videos are rubbish. They were counting glancing blows from Manny. Floyd won the fight with the jab and the straight right. He swung off the ropes beautifully when required. Only clear rounds for Manny were 4 and 6. He edged a couple, but Floyd won that fight, no shadow of doubt. Ward and Kovalev was much closer.
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BoxingFan88 wrote:EX7EY wrote:How can anybody actually believe Manny beat Floyd? Is this still even a discussion. I still remember watching it thinking two things for most of the fight.... 1 was I wish I hadn't set my alarm for this and just watched the repeat in the morning, and number 2 was Floyd is making Manny look average.
I'm not interested in super slow mo analysis, it means nothing because boxing is juged with the naked eye. So end of story right there. And just because there is video of Roger Mayweather telling Floyd they're favouring Manny mid way through the fight means absolutely nothing. It's called motivation.
Some people need to get over it. Over hyped, over due, boring fight. Simple as that.
This is what I have a problem with
Its absolute nonsense
I can't stand the fact that people can't give Manny credit for his fantastic performance on that night
His defensive game was spot on, his countering was excellent
Anyone who thinks it was a one sided schooling just makes me laugh, because its not what I saw, its not what most of the world saw
Its what some of the UK and American fans saw because its what the commentators wanted you to see, the rest of the world is laughing hard at you
The analysis just doesn't lie
'Manny looked clueless', one of the funniest fallacies I've heard about that fight
You even contradicted your own statement, boxing is judged with the naked eye, fine, so the result is what the result is
Every single person who says that exact thing, has the same opinion, "Its a one sided schooling"
That just shows me you don't want to see it, not that it didn't happen, you cannot see in real time what lands and what doesn't I will guarantee you that for a fact
The same old attitude will never change. Who cares what the rest of the world think, it's what the US and UK media say that counts and nothing else. Almost as if boxing doesn't even exist outside of the West.
They use slow motion replays in a high majority of sports for a reason, to see what 'actually' happened as opposed to just relying on home town commentary bias from the likes of Paulie and Kellerman.
Iron Mike and Evander both at ringside said Manny won, but what the f**k do they know, GTFOH!!
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I thought Mike said Floyd won a boring fight? I know Evander picked Manny though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usPWa8bVOQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usPWa8bVOQg
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The fact the Manny fans can't accept their man got beat is what makes me laugh BF and really anyone could say if you didn't notice the defensive technique by Floyd (far and above Manny's) then the only think you know about boxing is punching (or watching super slow mo's).
Oh and Dyl, doesn't matter if every sport bar boxing uses slow mo, the fact is that it's not used in boxing and as alluded to above you can still fudge it so your favourite wins.
There was a reason a lot of people were annoyed with Manny and it wasn't to do witht he fact it was 'close'
Oh and Dyl, doesn't matter if every sport bar boxing uses slow mo, the fact is that it's not used in boxing and as alluded to above you can still fudge it so your favourite wins.
There was a reason a lot of people were annoyed with Manny and it wasn't to do witht he fact it was 'close'
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Derbymanc wrote:The fact the Manny fans can't accept their man got beat is what makes me laugh BF and really anyone could say if you didn't notice the defensive technique by Floyd (far and above Manny's) then the only think you know about boxing is punching (or watching super slow mo's).
Oh and Dyl, doesn't matter if every sport bar boxing uses slow mo, the fact is that it's not used in boxing and as alluded to above you can still fudge it so your favourite wins.
There was a reason a lot of people were annoyed with Manny and it wasn't to do witht he fact it was 'close'
Good post and I can say that Derby is not a flomo, or whatever ridiculous word that is used these days.
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Do tell us
Please do tell us
Better yet show us
Please do tell us
Better yet show us
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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BoxingFan88 wrote:Do tell us
Please do tell us
Better yet show us
We have seen the fight. I have watched it a few times.
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Tell you about what, how great his feet were, how he slipped Manny quite a lot or how he was waiting for the jab before moving and flicking his own out. I mean go and watch it BF, Manny was that flumoxed he couldn't even maintain any pressure.
a massive disappointment to all involved really, although I did find it funny when it surfaced a few people were looking at taking Manny to court over the betting.
If you don't appreciate the defensive side of boxing (or can't see it) then go down the gym for a couple of lessons off the proper coaches down there, it still staggers me the little things involved.
a massive disappointment to all involved really, although I did find it funny when it surfaced a few people were looking at taking Manny to court over the betting.
If you don't appreciate the defensive side of boxing (or can't see it) then go down the gym for a couple of lessons off the proper coaches down there, it still staggers me the little things involved.
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It's much better to watch edited slow motion clips of a fight than the whole fight itself, the footage you rely on so much is the same action but shown repeatedly from different angles. Totally clueless.
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If Mike Tyson says that Pacquiao won that's it then Dylan, try discussing for a change instead of constant bu11shit conspiracies.
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I can't wait till they actually make it a part of the sport Haz, now we'll go to the judges and wait 3 hours whilst they examine the whole fight again in slow motion from 6 different angles. ;-). We're also going to ALL the ex boxers ringside as if there decisions are different then the judges decision won't be upheld :-)
A brilliant new future
A brilliant new future
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:If Mike Tyson says that Pacquiao won that's it then Dylan, try discussing for a change instead of constant bu11shit conspiracies.
Funny thing is, he didn't say it!
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Freddie Roach says Floyd won. That says it all really. In a supposed close fight, I doubt a rival trainer will say the other guy deserved the nod.
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I never said many got schooled. I said Floyd was making him look average, and that's just how I saw it.
I'm not saying manny didn't have his moments, but for me Floyd won easily enough in a pretty anti climactic, non eventful fight.
I'm not even a Floyd fan, I wanted manny to win to be honest.
It's just ridiculous when people are banging on about slo mo evidence to support their rubbish.
Floyd won the fight. Nothing to do with commentary, or the west, or any other nonsense. I don't even think it was close personally.
I'm not saying manny didn't have his moments, but for me Floyd won easily enough in a pretty anti climactic, non eventful fight.
I'm not even a Floyd fan, I wanted manny to win to be honest.
It's just ridiculous when people are banging on about slo mo evidence to support their rubbish.
Floyd won the fight. Nothing to do with commentary, or the west, or any other nonsense. I don't even think it was close personally.
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Once again
You all miss the point
In fact you aren't even in the same ball park as the point
In slow motion you can see how good manny is
I'm not crying robbery I already said I thought Floyd won a very close and competitive fight
You just say he won it easy
Which is nonsense
You totally discredit manys skill time and time again
Floyd isnt even putting his body weight behind punches later in the fight because he knows he will be countered for it
He has to keep flicking the jab to maintain distance from manny and use his legs to get away
If you watched the canelo fight Floyd just stayed on the ropes and alvarez couldn't hit him at all He made a mug of him
That just didn't happen in this fight
It was high level chess at its finest
I find it laughable how under rated manny is
Look at what he deals with
He has a shorter reach than rigondeaux and still beats the tar out of all these much bigger guys
It's his skill that let's him do it
If you can't see it then too bad but you are really missing out
You should open your eyes to new people like Precise Presenter who knows more about boxing than all of us on this forum put together
Can break down a fight and explain to you what is happening
Told you how good ggg was before you even knew who he was
Taking about Manny looking average??? Does that win a boxing match
And I suppose Floyd looked good
Or wasn't the non Action neutralisation fight you predicted from the start and expected manny to steam roll him and because he showed he can box you automatically think he lost
You all miss the point
In fact you aren't even in the same ball park as the point
In slow motion you can see how good manny is
I'm not crying robbery I already said I thought Floyd won a very close and competitive fight
You just say he won it easy
Which is nonsense
You totally discredit manys skill time and time again
Floyd isnt even putting his body weight behind punches later in the fight because he knows he will be countered for it
He has to keep flicking the jab to maintain distance from manny and use his legs to get away
If you watched the canelo fight Floyd just stayed on the ropes and alvarez couldn't hit him at all He made a mug of him
That just didn't happen in this fight
It was high level chess at its finest
I find it laughable how under rated manny is
Look at what he deals with
He has a shorter reach than rigondeaux and still beats the tar out of all these much bigger guys
It's his skill that let's him do it
If you can't see it then too bad but you are really missing out
You should open your eyes to new people like Precise Presenter who knows more about boxing than all of us on this forum put together
Can break down a fight and explain to you what is happening
Told you how good ggg was before you even knew who he was
Taking about Manny looking average??? Does that win a boxing match
And I suppose Floyd looked good
Or wasn't the non Action neutralisation fight you predicted from the start and expected manny to steam roll him and because he showed he can box you automatically think he lost
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Freddie Roach thought he lost. Get over it man.
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Wow. Emotions are high here haha.
I didn't say manny is an average boxer in general. In that particular fight I think Floyd made him look average.
It's just my opinion on a fight, claim down.
I didn't say manny is an average boxer in general. In that particular fight I think Floyd made him look average.
It's just my opinion on a fight, claim down.
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EX7EY wrote:Wow. Emotions are high here haha.
I didn't say manny is an average boxer in general. In that particular fight I think Floyd made him look average.
It's just my opinion on a fight, claim down.
The youtube community (Manny fans) are adamant he won. It's opinions though.
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Nobody is missing out BF88, you seem to want to show how much you know about the technical side hence why you bang on about the slo-mo so much. It's perfectly acceptable to admit you're talking crap though, believe it or not most boxing fans do know about boxing.
If you can't see the skills in real time they're not worth seeing, I can see Mayweather's defensive brilliance in real time. Manny isn't on the same level.
If you can't see the skills in real time they're not worth seeing, I can see Mayweather's defensive brilliance in real time. Manny isn't on the same level.
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If you can't see the technical skills on show at the time and have to slow it down, then they ain't as good as you think.
Most people do give Manny credit as most will give Floyd credit, it's the idiots on either side of the fence's that feel they have to tear either one down to make the other look good.
Oh and a lot of people thought Floyd made Manny look average which he did, just shows how good Floyd is and how far behind everyone else is.
Floyd 1, Manny a step down to 2. and then the rest who were quite a few levels below.
I'd like to see Manny retire now as I can only see his legacy being tarnished from here on out.
Most people do give Manny credit as most will give Floyd credit, it's the idiots on either side of the fence's that feel they have to tear either one down to make the other look good.
Oh and a lot of people thought Floyd made Manny look average which he did, just shows how good Floyd is and how far behind everyone else is.
Floyd 1, Manny a step down to 2. and then the rest who were quite a few levels below.
I'd like to see Manny retire now as I can only see his legacy being tarnished from here on out.
Derbymanc- Posts : 4008
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Re: Ten Conclusions from Mayweather - Manny !!
Derbymanc wrote:The fact the Manny fans can't accept their man got beat is what makes me laugh BF and really anyone could say if you didn't notice the defensive technique by Floyd (far and above Manny's) then the only think you know about boxing is punching (or watching super slow mo's).
Oh and Dyl, doesn't matter if every sport bar boxing uses slow mo, the fact is that it's not used in boxing and as alluded to above you can still fudge it so your favourite wins.
There was a reason a lot of people were annoyed with Manny and it wasn't to do witht he fact it was 'close'
I'm not even a Manny fan but I know a fraud when I see one and the self proclaimed TBE is exactly that.
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Re: Ten Conclusions from Mayweather - Manny !!
Hammersmith harrier wrote:If Mike Tyson says that Pacquiao won that's it then Dylan, try discussing for a change instead of constant bu11shit conspiracies.
Like your racist accusations?
Dylan1979- Posts : 224
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Re: Ten Conclusions from Mayweather - Manny !!
If Floyd's a fraud then so is Manny, both have done similar things (with Manny feasting on the scraps of Moseley after his fans stated he was completely and utterly washed up for Floyd). Never mind the farce of giving Margherita a pay day after the hand wraps scandal.
Yaddah Yaddah Yaddah, if you can't actually appreciate both then your really missing out. You don't have to like them (Floyd's a woman beating idiot, Manny's a cheating homophobic idiot) but see waht they bring to the table.
And once again for those that don't understand the defensive side of the game (I didn't at one point) go and look it up, learn to appreciate it cause your really missing out if you think boxing is just about throwing punches.
Yaddah Yaddah Yaddah, if you can't actually appreciate both then your really missing out. You don't have to like them (Floyd's a woman beating idiot, Manny's a cheating homophobic idiot) but see waht they bring to the table.
And once again for those that don't understand the defensive side of the game (I didn't at one point) go and look it up, learn to appreciate it cause your really missing out if you think boxing is just about throwing punches.
Derbymanc- Posts : 4008
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Re: Ten Conclusions from Mayweather - Manny !!
It's the topic that never dies.
Years of will they won't they. Now it's who won and was it one for the purists or just a crock of sh*t.
I'm in the 'Floyd won a disappointing fight fairly clearly' category. And no I haven't watched it in slow motion. It was dull enough in real time. I can appreciate defensive skills but I prefer to see counter punching than counter feinting.
Years of will they won't they. Now it's who won and was it one for the purists or just a crock of sh*t.
I'm in the 'Floyd won a disappointing fight fairly clearly' category. And no I haven't watched it in slow motion. It was dull enough in real time. I can appreciate defensive skills but I prefer to see counter punching than counter feinting.
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