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Post by Fernando Mon 11 May 2015, 4:18 pm

Will go here after Gameweek 1

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Post by Holymiky Tue 09 Jun 2015, 6:57 pm

PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stBayern Munich33008449
2ndReal Madrid32017526
3rdChelsea31207435
4thMan City31206425
5thJuventus21104224
6thBarcelona31115414
7thArsenal21103214
8thPorto310226-43
9thParis St Germain301257-21
10thAtletico Madrid200213-20
11thBorussia Dortmund300327-50

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Post by Azzy Tue 09 Jun 2015, 7:40 pm

Ooh, nice!

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Post by Holymiky Wed 10 Jun 2015, 1:06 am

GoalsPlayers
5Arjen Robben
4Sergio Aguero
3Luis Suarez, James Rodriguez
2Diego Costa, Carlos Tevez, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo,
Alexis Sanchez, Gareth Bale, Thomas Muller, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robert Lewandowski
1Karim Benzema, Eden Hazard, Gary Cahill, Edinson Cavani, Marco Reus, Arda Turan, Mario Gotze
Antoine Griezmann, Mesut Ozil, Ezequiel Lavezzi, Ilkay Gundogan, Yacine Brahimi, Cristian Tello
Wilfried Bony, Yaya Toure

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Post by Hero Wed 10 Jun 2015, 10:08 am

Players have owned: Scored 7
Players currently own: Scored 1


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Post by Holymiky Wed 10 Jun 2015, 8:28 pm

Do you guys like that top scorer table? Or i can post one which put it the other way round and list the players with the goals to the right, i already have it made.

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Post by Afro Wed 10 Jun 2015, 8:30 pm

Holymiky wrote:Do you guys like that top scorer table? Or i can post one which put it the other way round and list the players with the goals to the right, i already have it made.

I'd like the alignment of the number of goals with the players changed so it is at the top next to the first player! Whistle
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Post by Holymiky Wed 10 Jun 2015, 8:35 pm

[b][b]Player[/b][/b][b][b]Goals[/b][/b]
Arjen Robben - Bayern5
Sergio Aguero - Real Madrid4
Luis Suarez - Barcelona3
James Rodriguez - Juventus3
Diego Costa - Bayern2
Carlos Tevez - Dortmund2
Lionel Messi - Barcelona2
Cristiano Ronaldo - Real Madrid2
Alexis Sanchez - Chelsea2
Gareth Bale - Man City2
Thomas Muller - Chelsea2
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PSG2
Robert Lewandowski - Chelsea2
Karim Benzema - Juventus1
Eden Hazard -  Real Madrid1
Gary Cahill - Chelsea1
Edinson Cavani - PSG1
Marco Reus - Bayern1
Arda Turan - Atletico1
Mario Gotze - Arsenal1
Antoine Griezmann - Atletico1
Mesut Ozil - Bayern1
Ezequiel Lavezzi - PSG1
Ilkay Gundogan - PSG1
Yacine Brahimi - Porto 1
Cristian Tello - Real Madrid1
Wilfried Bony - Man City1
Yaya Toure - Man City1

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Post by Holymiky Wed 10 Jun 2015, 8:35 pm

Like that?

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Post by Azzy Thu 11 Jun 2015, 10:10 am

Yes. Two amendments I'd like to see:

1. When players are on the same number of goals, order them alphabetically by surname. So Brahimi is above Turan etc etc.
2. List the team played for, and where they've scored for more than one team (Aguero) show that in brackets next to the team.

Great job mind xx

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Post by Azzy Wed 17 Jun 2015, 4:25 pm

I've found it's impossible to know who the top scorer is for each team, so I'm not putting that in my game reports. Which is a shame, as it's nice to know but I can't spend half an hour working out who scored what for what team.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Jun 2015, 4:27 pm

I will try and work on it tonight mate, sorry.

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Post by Fernando Wed 17 Jun 2015, 4:37 pm

Ive put their current teams in but not previous.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Jun 2015, 4:40 pm

Thank you.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Jun 2015, 6:41 pm

PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stBayern Munich4310106410
2ndReal Madrid430111569
3rdJuventus32107257
4thBarcelona42119547
5thMan City31206425
6thChelsea412178-15
7thArsenal31205415
8thPorto410329-73
9thParis St Germain402257-22
10thBorussia Dortmund401327-51
11thAtletico Madrid300327-50

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:02 pm

PlayerScored ForGoals
Sergio Aguero - Real MadridMachester City, Real Madrid6
Arjen Robben - Bayern MunichBayern Munich6
Lionel Messi - BarcelonaBarcelona4
Luis Suarez - BarcelonaBarcelona4
Diego Costa - Bayern MunichBayern Munich3
James Rodriguez - BarcelonaJuventus3
Gareth Bale - Manchester CityManchester City2
Eden Hazard - Real MadridChelsea, Real Madrid2
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PSGPSG2
Robert Lewandowski - ChelseaChelsea2
Thomas Muller - ChelseaChelsea2
Cristiano Ronaldo - Real MadridReal Madrid2
Alexis Sanchez - ChelseaReal Madrid, Chelsea2
Carlos Tevez - DortmundReal Madrid, Dortmund2
Arda Turan - ArsenalArsenal2
Wilfried Bony - Man CityManchester City1
Karim Benzema - JuventusJuventus1
Yacine Brahimi - PortoPorto1
Gary Cahill - ChelseaChelsea1
Edinson Cavani - PSGPSG1
Memphis Depay - JuventusJuventus1
Mario Gotze - ArsenalArsenal1
Antoine Griezmann - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Ilkay Gundogan - PSGPSG1
Toni Kroos - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Ezequiel Lavezzi - PSGPSG1
Claudio Marchisio - ArsenalArsenal1
Neymar - JuventusJuventus1
Mesut Ozil - Bayern MunichArsenal1
Miralem Pjanic - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Ivan Rakitic - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Marco Reus - Bayern MunichBayern Munich1
Cristian Tello - Real MadridPorto1
Yaya Toure - Man CityManchester City1
Arturo Vidal - JuventusJuventus1

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Jun 2015, 8:05 pm

That took me quite a while by the way. I decided to seperate it out and the team that they currently play for is next to the players name.

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Post by Azzy Mon 22 Jun 2015, 1:36 pm

Holymiky wrote:
[b]Goals[/b][b]Players[/b]
[b]5[/b]Arjen Robben
[b]4[/b]Sergio Aguero
[b]3[/b]Luis Suarez, James Rodriguez
[b]2[/b]Diego Costa, Carlos Tevez, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo,
Alexis Sanchez, Gareth Bale, Thomas Muller, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robert Lewandowski
[b]1[/b]Karim Benzema, Eden Hazard, Gary Cahill, Edinson Cavani, Marco Reus, Arda Turan, Mario Gotze
Antoine Griezmann, Mesut Ozil, Ezequiel Lavezzi, Ilkay Gundogan, Yacine Brahimi, Cristian Tello
Wilfried Bony, Yaya Toure
Now I see it, I actually like this more. If you put the players' teams next to them in brackets it would look pretty ace.

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Post by Holymiky Mon 22 Jun 2015, 3:13 pm

I'm okay at doing it and I'm not being rude I am genuinely wondering but you aren't winding me up are you? It's just that it does take me quite a long time to make these so I want to be sure before putting the time in.

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Post by Azzy Wed 24 Jun 2015, 3:47 pm

Everyone else likes the more traditional way - don't change it. I was merely saying that your original method has grown on me and I actually prefer it.

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Post by Azzy Fri 26 Jun 2015, 11:23 am

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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:02 am

PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stBayern Munich5410116513
2ndReal Madrid5311137610
3rdMan City42208538
4thBarcelona42119547
5thJuventus42118537
6thArsenal41306516
7thChelsea513189-16
8thParis St Germain51228805
9thPorto5104311-83
10thBorussia Dortmund502349-52
11thAtletico Madrid400428-60

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Post by Hero Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:16 am

Don't think there will be much movement of that now for the rest of the season, Barca, Chelsea and Arsenal prob go up a bit, City and Juve down a bit

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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:17 am

PlayerScored ForGoals
Sergio Aguero - Real MadridMachester City, Real Madrid6
Arjen Robben - Bayern MunichBayern Munich6
Lionel Messi - BarcelonaBarcelona4
Luis Suarez - BarcelonaBarcelona4
Carlos Tevez - DortmundReal Madrid, Dortmund4
Gareth Bale - Manchester CityManchester City3
Edinson Cavani - PSGPSG3
Diego Costa - Bayern MunichBayern Munich3
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PSGPSG3
Thomas Muller - ChelseaChelsea3
James Rodriguez - BarcelonaJuventus3
Cristiano Ronaldo - Real MadridReal Madrid3
Eden Hazard - Real MadridChelsea, Real Madrid2
Robert Lewandowski - ChelseaChelsea2
Claudio Marchisio - ArsenalArsenal2
Neymar - JuventusJuventus2
Miralem Pjanic - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid2
Alexis Sanchez - ChelseaReal Madrid, Chelsea2
Arda Turan - ArsenalArsenal2
Wilfried Bony - Man CityManchester City1
Karim Benzema - JuventusJuventus1
Yacine Brahimi - PortoPorto1
Gary Cahill - ChelseaChelsea1
Memphis Depay - JuventusJuventus1
Mario Gotze - ArsenalArsenal1
Antoine Griezmann - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Ilkay Gundogan - PSGPSG1
Toni Kroos - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Ezequiel Lavezzi - PSGPSG1
Mesut Ozil - Bayern MunichArsenal1
Ivan Rakitic - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Marco Reus - Bayern MunichBayern Munich1
Cristian Tello - Real MadridPorto1
Yaya Toure - Man CityManchester City1
Arturo Vidal - JuventusJuventus1
Jerome Boateng - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Jackson Martinez - Manchester CityManchester City1
Alvaro Morata - PortoPorto1

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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:20 am

Hero wrote:Don't think there will be much movement of that now for the rest of the season, Barca, Chelsea and Arsenal prob go up a bit, City and Juve down a bit

Yeah it's interesting to see that Arsenal, Manchester City and Bayern are still unbeaten but i have a game in hand, the only thing is i have had 3 draws and only one win, however i have played Bayern already and Barcelona.

What place do you think you will finish mate?

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Post by Hero Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:24 am

6th or 7th, my team is set up for a certain style of play and managers know that now. So it's down to the judge each week to decide if that style of play still works.
If you don't pick a style of play and just give catch-all instructions (wingers to come both in and outside, vary your crosses etc) then they tend to work more than an actual specific plan.
That's not a gripe against anyone specific regarding tactics, just a generalisation in itself.


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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:25 am

Hero wrote:6th or 7th, my team is set up for a certain style of play and managers know that now. So it's down to the judge each week to decide if that style of play still works.
If you don't pick a style of play and just give generalist instructions (wingers to come both in and outside, vary your crosses etc) then they tend to work more than an actual specific plan.

Ah okay, fair enough mate.

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Post by Hero Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:27 am

Ironically though, probably the biggest one trick pony player is the one storming the league!

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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jun 2015, 8:33 am

I'm not sure where i will end up i mean i still have to play Real Madrid and Juventus but i have played Bayern and Barca.

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Post by Hero Sat 27 Jun 2015, 9:04 am

I'd suspect 4th, you've got the best of the rest team.

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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jun 2015, 9:36 am

Hero wrote:I'd suspect 4th, you've got the best of the rest team.

Oh okay, i am certainly aiming for that or perhaps even higher if i can.

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Post by Marky Thu 02 Jul 2015, 9:21 am

Place
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D
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GA
GD
Points
1stBayern Munich6510137616
2ndReal Madrid6411158713
3rdMan City532095411
4thChelsea6231101009
5thBarcelona521210737
6thJuventus52129727
7thArsenal51317706
8thParis St Germain612389-15
9thBorussia Dortmund6123610-45
10thPorto5104311-83
11thAtletico Madrid5005310-70

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Post by Holymiky Thu 02 Jul 2015, 9:25 am

Oh, thanks Marky I appreciate it. I was going to do it tonight or tomorrow night.

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Post by Holymiky Sat 04 Jul 2015, 7:32 am

PlayerScored ForGoals
Sergio Aguero - Real MadridMachester City, Real Madrid7
Arjen Robben - Bayern MunichBayern Munich6
Lionel Messi - BarcelonaBarcelona5
Carlos Tevez - DortmundReal Madrid, Dortmund5
Gareth Bale - Manchester CityManchester City4
Diego Costa - Bayern MunichBayern Munich4
Cristiano Ronaldo - Real MadridReal Madrid4
Luis Suarez - BarcelonaBarcelona4
Edinson Cavani - PSGPSG3
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PSGPSG3
Robert Lewandowski - ChelseaChelsea3
Thomas Muller - ChelseaChelsea3
James Rodriguez - BarcelonaJuventus3
Alexis Sanchez - ChelseaReal Madrid, Chelsea3
Arda Turan - ArsenalArsenal3
Memphis Depay - JuventusJuventus2
Eden Hazard - Real MadridChelsea, Real Madrid2
Claudio Marchisio - ArsenalArsenal2
Neymar - JuventusJuventus2
Miralem Pjanic - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid2
Marco Reus - Bayern MunichBayern Munich2
Jerome Boateng - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Wilfried Bony - Man CityManchester City1
Karim Benzema - JuventusJuventus1
Yacine Brahimi - PortoPorto1
Gary Cahill - ChelseaChelsea1
Mario Gotze - ArsenalArsenal1
Antoine Griezmann - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Ilkay Gundogan - PSGPSG1
Jese - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Toni Kroos - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Ezequiel Lavezzi - PSGPSG1
Jackson Martinez - Manchester CityManchester City1
Alvaro Morata - PortoPorto1
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - DortmundDortmund1
Mesut Ozil - Bayern MunichArsenal1
Ivan Rakitic - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Cristian Tello - Real MadridPorto1
Yaya Toure - Man CityManchester City1
Arturo Vidal - JuventusJuventus1

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Post by Holymiky Fri 10 Jul 2015, 12:13 am

PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stReal Madrid75111881016
2ndBayern Munich6510137616
3rdChelsea73311312112
4thMan City632198111
5thParis St Germain722313948
6thJuventus622210828
7thBarcelona6213121027
8thArsenal61418807
9thBorussia Dortmund7124611-55
10thAtletico Madrid6105410-63
11thPorto6105316-133

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Post by Holymiky Fri 10 Jul 2015, 12:15 am

Real Madrid move to the top however Nando was voting this week.

Nadz (and Afro) move off the bottom due to goal difference and get their first set of points on the board.

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Post by Holymiky Fri 10 Jul 2015, 12:32 am

PlayerScored ForGoals
Sergio Aguero - Real MadridMachester City, Real Madrid7
Lionel Messi - BarcelonaBarcelona6
Arjen Robben - Bayern MunichBayern Munich6
Thomas Muller - ChelseaChelsea5
Carlos Tevez - DortmundReal Madrid, Dortmund5
Gareth Bale - Manchester CityManchester City4
Diego Costa - Bayern MunichBayern Munich4
Cristiano Ronaldo - Real MadridReal Madrid4
Luis Suarez - BarcelonaBarcelona4
Arda Turan - ArsenalArsenal4
Edinson Cavani - PSGPSG3
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PSGPSG3
Robert Lewandowski - ChelseaChelsea3
Miralem Pjanic - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid3
James Rodriguez - BarcelonaJuventus3
Alexis Sanchez - ChelseaReal Madrid, Chelsea3
Karim Benzema - JuventusJuventus2
Memphis Depay - JuventusJuventus2
Eden Hazard - Real MadridChelsea, Real Madrid2
Toni Kroos - Real MadridReal Madrid2
Ezequiel Lavezzi - PSGPSG2
Claudio Marchisio - ArsenalArsenal2
Neymar - JuventusJuventus2
Pedro - PSGPSG2
Marco Reus - Bayern MunichBayern Munich2
Jerome Boateng - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Wilfried Bony - Man CityManchester City1
Yacine Brahimi - PortoPorto1
Gary Cahill - ChelseaChelsea1
Kevin De Bruyne - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Mario Gotze - ArsenalArsenal1
Antoine Griezmann - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Ilkay Gundogan - PSGPSG1
Andrés Iniesta - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Jesé - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Stevan Jovetic - PSGPSG1
Alexandre Lacazette - ChelseaChelsea1
Jackson Martinez - Manchester CityManchester City1
Alvaro Morata - PortoPorto1
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - DortmundDortmund1
Mesut Ozil - Bayern MunichArsenal1
Paul Pogba - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Ivan Rakitic - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Cristian Tello - Real MadridPorto1
Yaya Toure - Man CityManchester City1
Arturo Vidal - JuventusJuventus1

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Post by Holymiky Thu 16 Jul 2015, 2:04 pm

I will be posting the updated table when I get home.

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Post by Holymiky Thu 16 Jul 2015, 6:11 pm

PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stReal Madrid86112181319
2ndBayern Munich7520148617
3rdChelsea83411413113
4thJuventus7322129311
5thMan City7322911-211
6thArsenal7241118310
7thParis St Germain722313948
8thBarcelona7223131128
9thBorussia Dortmund8134712-56
10thAtletico Madrid7106512-73
11thPorto7106319-163

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Post by Holymiky Thu 16 Jul 2015, 6:13 pm

See above for the updated table as promised.

Arsenal have jumped a couple of places with their win over City (default) Real Madrid open up a 2 point gap at the top although Bayern do have a game in hand.

Juventus also jump a few places with their win over Atletico.

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Post by Azzy Fri 17 Jul 2015, 8:47 am

Arsenal deserve to be much higher.

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Post by Marky Fri 17 Jul 2015, 8:52 am

Azzy wrote:Arsenal deserve to be much higher.

Only 3 points off 3rd with a game in hand to be fair.

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Post by Holymiky Mon 20 Jul 2015, 6:32 pm

PlayerScored ForGoals
Sergio Aguero - Real MadridMan City, Real Madrid, Dortmund8
Lionel Messi - BarcelonaBarcelona, Real Madrid8
Arjen Robben - Bayern MunichBayern Munich6
Thomas Muller - ChelseaChelsea5
Cristiano Ronaldo - Real MadridReal Madrid, Barcelona5
Luis Suarez - BarcelonaBarcelona, Real Madrid5
Carlos Tevez - DortmundReal Madrid, Dortmund5
Gareth Bale - Manchester CityManchester City4
Diego Costa - Bayern MunichBayern Munich4
Arda Turan - ArsenalArsenal4
Edinson Cavani - PSGPSG3
Zlatan Ibrahimovic - PSGPSG3
Robert Lewandowski - ChelseaChelsea3
Miralem Pjanic - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid3
James Rodriguez - BarcelonaJuventus3
Alexis Sanchez - ChelseaReal Madrid, Chelsea3
Karim Benzema - JuventusJuventus2
Memphis Depay - JuventusJuventus2
Mario Gotze - ArsenalArsenal2
Eden Hazard - Real MadridChelsea, Real Madrid2
Toni Kroos - Real MadridReal Madrid2
Ezequiel Lavezzi - PSGPSG2
Claudio Marchisio - ArsenalArsenal2
Neymar - JuventusJuventus2
Pedro - PSGPSG2
Marco Reus - Bayern MunichBayern Munich2
Emineke Aubameyang - JuventusJuventus1
Jerome Boateng - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Wilfried Bony - Man CityManchester City1
Yacine Brahimi - PortoPorto1
Gary Cahill - ChelseaChelsea1
Kevin De Bruyne - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Paulo Dybala - Bayern MunichBayern Munich1
Cesc Fàbregas - ChelseaChelsea1
Olivier Giroud - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Antoine Griezmann - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Ilkay Gundogan - PSGPSG1
Andrés Iniesta - Real MadridReal Madrid1
Jesé - Atletico MadridAtletico Madrid1
Stevan Jovetic - PSGPSG1
Alexandre Lacazette - ChelseaChelsea1
Stephan Lichsteiner - JuventusJuventus1
Mario Mandzukic - ArsenalArsenal1
Jackson Martinez - Manchester CityManchester City1
Alvaro Morata - PortoPorto1
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - DortmundDortmund1
Mesut Ozil - Bayern MunichArsenal1
Paul Pogba - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Ivan Rakitic - BarcelonaBarcelona1
Tomas Rosicky - ArsenalArsenal1
Cristian Tello - Real MadridPorto1
Yaya Toure - Man CityManchester City1
Arturo Vidal - JuventusJuventus1

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Post by Holymiky Thu 23 Jul 2015, 6:20 pm

PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stReal Madrid97112491322
2ndBayern Munich8620179820
3rdArsenal8341148613
4thChelsea83411413113
5thJuventus83321512312
6thMan City8323914-511
7thBarcelona8233161429
8thParis St Germain8224141228
9thAtletico Madrid8206812-46
10thBorussia Dortmund9135815-76
11thPorto8107322-193

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Post by Marky Thu 30 Jul 2015, 3:26 pm

Holymiky wrote:
PlaceTeamPWDLGFGAGDPoints
1stBayern Munich97201991023
2ndReal Madrid97112491322
3rdChelsea94411715216
4thArsenal93511610614
5thBarcelona93331814412
6thJuventus93331514112
7thMan City9324916-711
8thParis St Germain9234161429
9thAtletico Madrid9216913-47
10thBorussia Dortmund101361018-86
11thPorto9117423-194

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Post by Marky Thu 30 Jul 2015, 3:26 pm

Updated table, Title Showdown (if City miraculously get tactics in)

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Post by Holymiky Thu 30 Jul 2015, 3:56 pm

Thanks mate, was going to update this tonight but I will do it again at the end of the season and I will update top scorers at the end of the season too now.

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Post by Fernando Thu 30 Jul 2015, 3:57 pm

Marky wrote:Updated table, Title Showdown (if City miraculously get tactics in)

Im sure you will be delighted to claim victory on a default win too Whistle

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Post by Marky Thu 30 Jul 2015, 4:21 pm

I'd rather you beat me fairly than with two default wins at the end of the season, I'm sure you'd rather win fairly as well.

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Post by Fernando Thu 30 Jul 2015, 4:25 pm

Id rather win fairly but then again if Afro does Citeh tactics and gets a pt then you don't win fairly since got a default against Citeh (It was literally an XI) Laugh Either way it's tainted so idgaf anymore Laugh

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