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GGG vs. Lemieux. October 17th, MSG.

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Post by Gentleman01 Sat 25 Jul 2015, 11:03 am

Hearing this is now agreed. Thoughts?

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 25 Jul 2015, 11:22 am

Looking forward to this if its made

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Post by RanjitPatel Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:39 pm

One to look forward to and good on Lemieux for taking it and not milking his title for a while instead. I hope he can pose some problems for GGG and test his chin with one of his own bombs. Intriguing to an extent as there's not many better matchups in the division.

GGG will win though.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:45 pm

Good punch-up, really good punch-up till Golovkin busts him up.

Styles makes fights and I don't see any brawler out there besting the Kazakh at the minute. Even Froch was the betting underdog in that fight. Though Carl can box a bit too!

I want to see Gennady in with a quality slickster his own weight or above.

His trainer often praises the way he's able to manoeuvre his opponent and get them into the position he wants, so I think fans would really like to see what he can do with Ward. I hope his team will see sense and accept the fight at the full super-middle limit. That way if he wins, he'll get all the praise in the world and become the biggest thing in boxing with the exception of Floyd.

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Post by Lance Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:50 pm

I think GGG really needed a good opponent this time and thankfully he got one. Lemieux is a bit fragile so GGG can clearly hurt him, but I think Lemieux will come to win and should be able to land some hard shots himself to make it interesting

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Post by milkyboy Sat 25 Jul 2015, 2:28 pm

Probably as interesting a match up middle as could be made. Having said that, I think Lemieux is made for golovkin and get battered. Puncher's chance maybe? Very slim one.

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Post by kingraf Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:15 pm

I like Lemmy. He's my favourite fighter not named Golovkin. As a result I'm very happy for this fight. Hopefully Lemmy can give a good account of himself and the best man wins.
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Post by Gentleman01 Sat 25 Jul 2015, 8:02 pm

I agree, it's an interesting match-up. Lemieux's improved a lot since his two stoppage losses.

Also agree though, that GGG wins relatively easily, by kayo.

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Post by Hands Of Stone Sat 25 Jul 2015, 8:50 pm

Lemieux isn't stevens, if Golovkin lets him hit him clean like that he'll be on the canvas

Golovkin is superior in almost every department, but Lemieux could just be the harder puncher

A lot of people are saying a boxer will be GGG downfall but he's far more ineffective when he's on the back foot so a fighter like Lemieux may actually be his downfall.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 25 Jul 2015, 9:10 pm

Great fight, will be a coming out party for GGG

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 25 Jul 2015, 11:29 pm

Seeing that Quillin, Lee and Cotto don't seem bothered fighting GGG it's the most logical fight out there. As said above Lemieux has a puncher's chance and he does bang hard. Could be interesting in the first few rounds.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 25 Jul 2015, 11:30 pm

Seeing that Quillin, Lee and Cotto don't seem bothered fighting GGG it's the most logical fight out there. As said above Lemieux has a puncher's chance and he does bang hard. Could be interesting in the first few rounds.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Sun 26 Jul 2015, 12:23 am

Fantastic fight. Could be a fight of the year candidate. Two huge punchers.

GGG really needs this fight and HBO will love it. If GGG is an underground star who is bubbling to the surface of being mainstream, this is the fight to launch him.

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Post by hazharrison Sun 26 Jul 2015, 7:24 am

You have to love puncher vs puncher match-ups. This looks the best at middleweight since Jackson vs McClellan (their first fight was a doozy).

That will be two of the three major belts (if the WBO is still regarded as the unofficial fourth place bauble). Cotto/Canelo next and then he can carve out a championship legacy.

Oh for a disposable income. Great fight in NY - doesn't get much better.

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Post by 3fingers Sun 26 Jul 2015, 7:44 am

This is Canelo vs Kirkland all over again

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Post by AdamT Sun 26 Jul 2015, 8:26 am

GGG will destroy him. 5 rounds at most.

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Post by Lance Sun 26 Jul 2015, 10:00 am

I cant see GGG losing until hes willing to take on a slick boxer, which hes in no rush to do. However I think Lemieux might surprise us and try to fight that way. Not sure if hes the man to pull it off though. Be interesting. Lemieux is starting to get recognition so he must fancy his chances to take this fight now.

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Post by catchweight Sun 26 Jul 2015, 3:52 pm

Bollix tingler of a fight

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Post by hazharrison Sun 26 Jul 2015, 4:12 pm

It's no Golovkin-Lara but if it can generate one tenth of the intrigue a Lara fight would create.....

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 26 Jul 2015, 4:30 pm

Lemiuex is no Lara you're right there, will be a more exciting fight but the result is a foregone conclusion, not what I call intrigue.

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Post by hazharrison Sun 26 Jul 2015, 4:34 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Lemiuex is no Lara you're right there, will be a more exciting fight but the result is a foregone conclusion, not what I call intrigue.

We can only dream that one day Golovkin will stop running...

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 26 Jul 2015, 4:35 pm

One day he might face someone capable of causing him problems but hey ho he'll carry on facing hand picked punch bags, there's no fun in watching him hit fresh air is there.

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Post by RanjitPatel Sun 26 Jul 2015, 4:45 pm

3fingers wrote:This is Canelo vs Kirkland all over again

I agree. It'll be interesting whilst it lasts but it's got 3 rounds written all over it.

Read an article where Oscar is hoping for 350000-500000 ppv buys for this and will be stacking the card. Roman Gonzalez has been mentioned as being on the bill too. That's a good start but they'll need a few more names to reach half a million buys.


Said it earlier but Lemieux deserves a lot of credit for this. It should be what every fighter craves (fighting the best and not milking their belts) but happens rarely so it's surprising and a breath of fresh air.

Middle has some good good match ups coming soon with Lee Saunders, canelo cotto also. Shame light heavy and welter can't follow suit.

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Post by Lance Sun 26 Jul 2015, 5:56 pm

GGG deserves stick when he fights Munroe types, hes been a champion a while now. But this is a good fight and there are more out there for him.

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Post by hazharrison Sun 26 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm

Lance wrote:GGG deserves stick when he fights Munroe types, hes been a champion a while now. But this is a good fight and there are more out there for him.

In preferring to fight more than once or twice a year as many of today's cosseted, overpaid champions are happy to do - and bearing in mind the fact not many middleweights actually want to fight him at the going rate - Golovkin is inevitably going to have to face "Monroe types" in opting to stay active. I prefer to see fighters out as often as possible - especially exciting knockout machines such as Golovkin.

While we'd all like to see him run through Cotto, Canelo and Lee in quick succession, that simply isn't feasible in today's climate.

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Post by Lance Sun 26 Jul 2015, 7:15 pm

Lara would have been better. After all he was desperate

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Post by kingraf Sun 26 Jul 2015, 7:48 pm

This Lara business does rankle. Boxing's not so irretrievably broken that a fight with a 154-pounder who only has his title because Canelo decided he had a useless trinket is a better fight than a freaking unification bout. Angulo made Lara sit down twice. Golovkin is bigger and badder than Angulo. He'd catch Nodules against Lara.
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Post by kingraf Sun 26 Jul 2015, 7:51 pm

More I think about it, more I give Lemmy a chance. He punches like a mule, and Golovkin has proven to be very willing to move in face first. Don't be surprised if David conquers Golovkin
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Post by hazharrison Sun 26 Jul 2015, 8:25 pm

Lance wrote:Lara would have been better. After all he was desperate

Despite his public appeal, K2 Promotions are on record as stating Team Lara have never contacted them about a potential fight. Add in the fact that Lara is allied to Haymon and PBC and there would need to be some serious negotiations in order to make that fight (I guess a phonecall would be a start). Golovkin is determined to unify the middleweight belts. If Lara really wants the fight he could try to win one. Or even fight at middleweight. Golovkin would run him out of the ring in any case.

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Post by Hands Of Stone Sun 26 Jul 2015, 8:35 pm

Lemieux is a much more dangerous fight then Lara, and a much more entertaining fight and a fight with a lot more interest.

Would anyone prefer to watch watch lara after he ruined his chance to beat canelo by running the second half of the fight and the boring 12 rounder against a journeyman in Rodriguez............

Munroe is a slick boxer, not as talented as Lara that's true but he's tougher and stornger. Canelo is a good entertaining fighter but his style isn't to walk forward and force the pace, but he did enough against Lara. GGG is much better at that type of fight and the minute lara felt his power he'd run for the entire fight untill GGG wears him down with body shots.

Lemieux may get blown out in a round but the chances of him landing a hayemaker and KOing GGG is higher than Lara outboxing GGG for 12 and getting the points victory.

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Post by hazharrison Sun 26 Jul 2015, 8:52 pm

Hands Of Stone wrote:Lemieux is a much more dangerous fight then Lara, and  a much more entertaining fight and  a fight with a lot more interest.

Would anyone prefer to watch watch lara after he ruined his chance to beat canelo by running the second half of the fight and the boring 12 rounder against a journeyman in Rodriguez............

Munroe is a slick boxer, not as talented as Lara that's true but he's tougher and stornger. Canelo is a good entertaining fighter but his style isn't to walk forward and force the pace, but he did enough against Lara. GGG is much better at that type of fight and the minute lara felt his power he'd run for the entire fight untill GGG wears him down with body shots.

Lemieux may get blown out in a round but the chances of him landing a hayemaker and KOing GGG is higher than Lara outboxing GGG for 12 and getting the points victory.

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Post by AdamT Sun 26 Jul 2015, 9:16 pm

Wow Golvkin has overtaken Tyson as the invincible beast.

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Post by Lance Sun 26 Jul 2015, 10:01 pm

You are the master of spin when it comes to GGG haz. Golovkins team have publicly refused to fight Lara

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Post by hazharrison Mon 27 Jul 2015, 7:17 am

Lance wrote:You are the master of spin when it comes to GGG haz. Golovkins team have publicly refused to fight Lara

Source?

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Post by kingraf Mon 27 Jul 2015, 8:06 am

Kirkland-Stevens also on the undercard. Gonna be a crackerjack boxing night.
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Post by AdamT Mon 27 Jul 2015, 9:04 am

It is a good fight. I am looking forward to it. GGG is exciting and very good but some of the hype is a bit much.

Perhaps he will justify it soon.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon 27 Jul 2015, 12:29 pm

hazharrison wrote:You have to love puncher vs puncher match-ups. This looks the best at middleweight since Jackson vs McClellan (their first fight was a doozy).

That will be two of the three major belts (if the WBO is still regarded as the unofficial fourth place bauble). Cotto/Canelo next and then he can carve out a championship legacy.

Oh for a disposable income. Great fight in NY - doesn't get much better.

Tell me about it. I have an important exam/interview 2 weeks later so can't do it. Otherwise I would be extremely tempted and haven't been to New York either. Gutted.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 27 Jul 2015, 1:37 pm

How easy do you think it will be to get tickets?

Is it realisitically a sell out that'll need advance booking or will there be tickets likely available once in NYC??

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Post by hazharrison Mon 27 Jul 2015, 1:40 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:How easy do you think it will be to get tickets?

Is it realisitically a sell out that'll need advance booking or will there be tickets likely available once in NYC??

I think it will sell out but would be surprised if they were snapped up immediately. Ed Robinson (Sky) fancies Lemieux's chances here. It should be a humdinger. Roman Gonzalez on the undercard, too - you couldn't ask for much better.

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Post by Coxy001 Mon 27 Jul 2015, 1:44 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:How easy do you think it will be to get tickets?

Is it realisitically a sell out that'll need advance booking or will there be tickets likely available once in NYC??

Depends if they use the main arena or the small one. With all ticketed things I would just buy them online.

Has Strongy been banned? I was going to ask him if I could use his private jet to go to this and see if one of his penthouse apartments are free that weekend.


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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 27 Jul 2015, 2:08 pm

Nothing listed on MSG website yet, will have to keep an eye out.....

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Post by Coxy001 Mon 27 Jul 2015, 2:44 pm

Why not try for a press pass through V2? Am sure Paul can lend you their jet "Air Admin One" for the weekend and give you a few hundred K to blow from the 606 fund.

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Post by Dipper Brown Mon 27 Jul 2015, 2:49 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:How easy do you think it will be to get tickets?

Is it realisitically a sell out that'll need advance booking or will there be tickets likely available once in NYC??

I booked Cotto Martinez the minute they went on sale, thinking I'd have minutes to snap them up. Tickets were still available when I got there although I think by the time the fight happened they'd all gone. For reference that was Puerto Rican flag weekend with a Puerto Rican fighting so I'm guessing GGG Lemieuex won't shift as many tickets. Off the top of my head I think Golovkin's last fight in the main arena sold about 9000 tickets.

Having said that the most reasonably priced tickets will probably be the first to go, so to avoid disappointment id say it's advisable to book the tickets in advance. Plus you'll have more spending money once you're there Smile!

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Post by Gentleman01 Tue 28 Jul 2015, 3:29 pm

As others have mentioned, I'm very impressed with Lemiuex. In his first defence of his newly won IBF belt, he elects to take on GGG in an attempt to unify.

Rather than trying to squeeze out a few soft defences in his home town, he is taking on GGG, a man who is not only the consensus #1 fighter in his division, but who also has a reputation as a fearsome 160lbs wrecking machine!

Lemieux's been kayoed twice by men far less gifted than Golovkin (albeit, he has improved markedly since then). However, he's obviously not too fearful of another loss on his ledger.

Is there something instructive, then, that we can earn from Lemieux's career? Is his willingness to fight the best something which he desires, regardless of circumstance? Or, has Lemieux's early losses perhaps instilled in him a belief that; a loss is not such a bad thing. That, regardless of the outcome of this fight, he will be better off for having taken it? Would Lemieux be as happy to take on GGG in his first defence, and risk being flattened, if his 0 were still intact?

In my opinion, GGG will win this fight. However, Lemieux, on October 17th, Lemieux will still only be 26 years old. So, regardless of the outcome, I think he still has a very bright future.

I just hope the fight is competitive.

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Post by Hands Of Stone Wed 29 Jul 2015, 12:40 pm

Lemieux been stopped once not twice, and I don't think he's been down since the Rubio fight when he was 21 22

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Post by AdamT Wed 29 Jul 2015, 12:41 pm

Khan would ko GGG!

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Post by Gentleman01 Wed 29 Jul 2015, 1:03 pm

Yes, apologies, that was a mistake - I believe he dropped an SD to Alcine(?) directly after being TKO'd by Rubio?

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Post by milkyboy Wed 29 Jul 2015, 1:59 pm

He was only 22 when he lost to rubio, but he was no novice, he'd been rolling stiffs for a good few years. He won the first half of the fight, Rubio had a good round and the momentum swung, then he got caught with a big right hand behind the ear and his legs went. Corner chucked the towel in soon after.

Doesn't make him chinny but it's a concern against golovkin. Of more of a concern would be that he's just not that good. Golovkins whiskers look pretty good so although Lemieux can clearly bang, he's only done it against largely b-listers, because he's only fought largely b-listers.

I agree it's a great credit to him that he's taking the fight, but I think he's going to get mullered. I have of course been wrong before. On numerous occasions.

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Post by kingraf Wed 12 Aug 2015, 8:01 pm

Golovkin-Lemieux shifted 6000 in pre sales. An MSG record. Not an indication of anything, but just something to note for those considering getting tickets.
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Post by hazharrison Wed 12 Aug 2015, 8:17 pm

kingraf wrote:Golovkin-Lemieux shifted 6000 in pre sales. An MSG record. Not an indication of anything, but just something to note for those considering getting tickets.

The rest will fly out. Massive interest on Twitter. Gonzalez vs Viloria has been added - what a fantastic card.

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