Hearn must do better

So the news for Kell Brook's next fight is that he may face either fringe contender Chris Van Heerden or 40-year-old Leonard Bundu. If this is the case then I wash my hands with Brook. Surely Brook has had enough gimmies he must now be making a real name for himself.

Brook has wasted enough time in his career and even tho he is a bonified champ he is widely unknown to the American masses. Khan has always stated that Brook is below him in terms of popularity and in this regard he is correct.

Khan is pinning for Mayweather, Brook is pinning for Khan and NO fights are being made its a disgrace. Brook should be lining up the likes of Thurman, Broner, Bradley etc not taking a step backwards.

So fed up with boxing right now rapidly loosing interest. 30 odd year fan talking here.

Pish. With you entirely.

=/ Surely there must be better opponents available????

Got to be. Hearn/Brook just milking it.

Khan talking up 2016 and they know that's the most money Brook will ever make so they're keeping him on ice until then.

The entire division is an absolute joke at the minute. Such a depth of talent yet almost every boxer is on a no risk/high reward strategy. Every criticism levelled at Khan for treading water in the hope of the Mayweather fight can be levelled at Brook waiting for Khan. When is Thurman going to fight anyone? Jesus Jones, I despair!

Someone take a risk and get in there with a live opponent FFS!

If everyone was this cautious in boxing, nobody would ever fight anyone.

Any wonder young fans are all over ufc/mma.

Least they can put on the fights.

Dipper Brown wrote:The entire division is an absolute joke at the minute. Such a depth of talent yet almost every boxer is on a no risk/high reward strategy. Every criticism levelled at Khan for treading water in the hope of the Mayweather fight can be levelled at Brook waiting for Khan. When is Thurman going to fight anyone? Jesus Jones, I despair!

Someone take a risk and get in there with a live opponent FFS!

If everyone was this cautious in boxing, nobody would ever fight anyone.

Agreed

and it looks as tho the same thing is happening in Rigo's division. Wealth of talent and all avoiding each other. This generation of fighters apart from Mayweather and Wlad are a big fat joke.

AdamT wrote:Any wonder young fans are all over ufc/mma.

Least they can put on the fights.

True

I might have to take a look at MMA more seriously.

I figure its like watching Corrie for the first time and after va couple of shows getting hooked like I did on Brookside all those years ago.

It is good if you understand it. It's like boxing, you get good fights and sh1t fights.

Completely unacceptable to fight 3 low-ranked opponents in a row.

If Brook can't get Khan, he should still face another name to build his profile.

Fans fault for buying tickets.

Petition Sky for better opponents.

Scottrf wrote:Fans fault for buying tickets.

Petition Sky for better opponents.

Sky would just drop boxing alltogether Rupert does not like getting bullied.

Until Mayweather retires, no-one will fight anyone for risk of losing their place in the queue. We had a similar situation in the 90's with the likes of Trinidad, Quartey, Page etc. trying to hang onto alphabet titles and unbeaten records in the hope of landing a bout with Oscar.

Or maybe Mayweather's risk averse strategy will filter down through generations to come?

Does appear Hearn and Brook are doing all they can to undo the good work and good will the excellent win over Porter put them in the bank. Appreciate they are looking at the Khan fight, but given we are already in August all but the English weather will pretty much guarantee the earliest date for this will be next summer. Given his first two defences have been uninspiring do we really deserve to endure another 8 or 9 months of rubbish just to get safely through to the Khan fight. Whilst the Khan fight is a good one, it is hardly Ali Frazier, it does not warrant or expunge 18 months worth of dross.

The Khan fight is a good one and the obvious one for both. Hearn/Brook obviously don't want to risk Brook losing as that would mean tha Khan fight wouldn't happen.

It is a bit of a joke really. Khan stalking Mayweather and Brook stalking Khan.

If Brook took on another big name and won he would also put himself in a much better position, not just regarding Khan but also potentially Mayweather/Pacquaio.

'Tis a bit daft how Brook's whole career is becoming purely about one man and one fight. This isn't a Witter-Hatton situation either, where Hatton was Junior's only feasible route to massive money or world-wide recognition; Brook has an array of options open to him at 147 with or without Khan, along with some cracking names which could potentially be tempted up from 140, too.

All well and good pointing out that it's Khan who is pouring cold water on that particular fight, which is true, but that's no reason to compound the problems by lining up a few poor defences on the spin, particularly as Brook and Hearn are going with this public humiliation and pressuring tactic when it comes to Khan, pointing out how he's supposedly running scared and avoiding the big challenges. Algieri doesn't sit at the top table, but if (and it's still an if, to be fair) Brook does fight Bundu or Van Heerden next then that makes it three opponents on the trot who ain't even as good as Algieri, which kind of causes Brook and Hearn to lose that particular bit of moral high ground.

Fair’s fair – for the time being, it’s only speculation and camp fire talk. But while Dan was a mandatory (admittedly one of the poorer mandatories we’ve seen recently, but that’s not Brook’s fault and it’s nowt new), following that up with Gavin after all the big talk from Brook and his team was underwhelming to put it mildly. If it is Van Heerden or Bundu next, in light of the defences Brook’s already made, then that really would make it a bad run of fights, and a bit of a mickey take as well.

Who else do you think can make Kell anything close to the money he'd make versus Khan, Chris?

TopHat24/7 wrote:Who else do you think can make Kell anything close to the money he'd make versus Khan, Chris?

Thurman is a big fight and Thurman wants it. It wont make as much as Khan in the UK but it will make more then Brook Khan in the states.

Saying that: Nigel Benn's first three defences of his WBC title were Nicky Piper, Mauro Galvano and Lou Gent; Eubank fought some right dross. Perhaps we're judging Brook too harshly?

I suppose Khan is the one running around saying Brook isn't "on his level" and things.

Brook isn't talking about himself as a p4p fighter.

Khan has stated that Money is running scared. He says Pacman could be next and it would be a harder fight.

Also if Floyd fights on, he might choose Khan for no 50!

Amir it is unlikey you read the forums, or you would talk less sh1t.

Seriously, stop chasing Floyd, he is leading you on and has no desire to fight you. Take on Brook or some other relevant Welterweights. FFS you only have one career, stop pis.ing in the wind!

Wake me up when Brook fights someone decent

Oh what a surprise. I understand the US fans being optimistic about Brooke but Brit fans really should know better, the disappointment by 606 is a little naive.

dangerous_mouse wrote:the disappointment by 606 is a little naive.

No doubt its all Amir Khans fault for ducking him...

Steffan wrote:Wake me up when Brook fights someone decent

Hope Selby's opponents do not lead to those words coming back to haunt you Steffan!

Rowley wrote:

Steffan wrote:Wake me up when Brook fights someone decent

Hope Selby's opponents do not lead to those words coming back to haunt you Steffan!

Selby is destined for greatness. He is a contender

Brook is a tomato

Selby is going to be fighting nobodies until match room think Warrington is ready for a domestic fight. It is known.

Wow. Selby has only won the title 3 months ago and people are already picking him up on his level of opponents. Not exactly sure how that works considering he hasn't even defended to the title yet. Or how the topic even came up on a thread about "Special K" and his top level opponents

Just a prediction of mine, Steff. I think Hearn is seriously hot on Warrington and his fan base of Leeds United mutants. The guy also loves a 'domestic dust up', so don't expect Selby to be risked. Just the way I see it. Not a slight on Selby.

Dipper Brown wrote:Just a prediction of mine, Steff. I think Hearn is seriously hot on Warrington and his fan base of Leeds United mutants. The guy also loves a 'domestic dust up', so don't expect Selby to be risked. Just the way I see it. Not a slight on Selby.

Sebly will beat Warrington with ease. There is no risk. But yes Eddie wants to try and make as much money as possible so will build it up as a big 'domestic dust up'

Agreed. Think there's a disparity in skill and JW wouldn't have the dig to keep Selby off him. His only chance is that engine.

I'd like to see Selby move onwards in upwards but I fear Selby treading water until Matchroom feel JW is ready to fight for a world title. I have been wrong in the past though.

Looks like Diego Chaves next up for Brook - disappointing if true.

Cheers, Rodders

Rodney wrote:Looks like Diego Chaves next up for Brook - disappointing if true.

Cheers, Rodders

it's not Brook's fault it's Khan's or Rios.......Quigg fighting stiffs isn't his fault it's Frampton's.....

Fast Eddie was lauded for being different a few years ago...Sticking his fighters in tough title fights..

Looks like Eddie has borrowed from the Warren handbook and has smelt the coffee.....with plenty of milk.

But hey Boxing is a business and plenty of idiots on here will buy it on PPv...If you chuck in Quigg/Joshua vs stiffs.

Eddie isn't a mug !!

I suppose Chaves is better then Van Heerden although that is a low bar I accept, a few months ago Eddie was going on about Rios, Bradley and Marquez. How times change....

He's milking....

He knows he can stick a few fights on this card and get plenty of people to buy it...

Read a stat that Brook has fought only 1 fighter in the top 15 out of his 35 wins - see him playing it safe if Khan bout realistic for the summer 2016.

Cheers, rodders

If it's mid summer 2016........We'll have in the meantime Hearn brandishing a cheque he's offered to Thurman and Bradley as an excuse for fights against Eggington (Brits love an all British world title fight !!) and Algieri....