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This is Cheating!
by hawkeye Thu 13 Aug 2015, 8:25 am
First topic message reminder :
This is what Kyrgios did to gain advantage over Wawrinka in their 2nd round match in Montreal
http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/12/nick-kyrgios-to-stan-wawrinka-kokkinakis-banged-your-girlfriend-sorry-to-tell-you-that-mate/
Not only is it cheating but it should in my opinion been punished with a code violation. I believe it should have been judged as a major incident of aggravated behavior and should have resulted in Kyrgios being defaulted. It could be considered verbal abuse, unsportsmanlike behavior and conduct contrary to the integrity of the game. According to the ATP rule book a singularly egregious, a single violation of any of these offenses shall also constitute the player Major Offense of Aggravated Behavior. This carries a penalty of immediate default and can also result in suspension from the ATP tour.
So why was Kyrgios not penalized? If the Umpire didn't hear at the time penalties can be given retrospectively when evidence is discovered. My guess is that the ATP is so worried about selling the game post FeDal they are will even stoop to selling it as a circus Kyrgios is probably being paid more for this sort of behavior (in endorsements) than he is for his tennis skills
It is also a way of gaining advantage in matches that doesn't involve tennis skills at all
This is what Kyrgios did to gain advantage over Wawrinka in their 2nd round match in Montreal
http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/12/nick-kyrgios-to-stan-wawrinka-kokkinakis-banged-your-girlfriend-sorry-to-tell-you-that-mate/
Not only is it cheating but it should in my opinion been punished with a code violation. I believe it should have been judged as a major incident of aggravated behavior and should have resulted in Kyrgios being defaulted. It could be considered verbal abuse, unsportsmanlike behavior and conduct contrary to the integrity of the game. According to the ATP rule book a singularly egregious, a single violation of any of these offenses shall also constitute the player Major Offense of Aggravated Behavior. This carries a penalty of immediate default and can also result in suspension from the ATP tour.
So why was Kyrgios not penalized? If the Umpire didn't hear at the time penalties can be given retrospectively when evidence is discovered. My guess is that the ATP is so worried about selling the game post FeDal they are will even stoop to selling it as a circus Kyrgios is probably being paid more for this sort of behavior (in endorsements) than he is for his tennis skills
It is also a way of gaining advantage in matches that doesn't involve tennis skills at all
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Re: This is Cheating!
by Guest Wed 02 Sep 2015, 6:43 pm
The key word was in the title of your argument, perspective.
What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.
What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.
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by MMT1 Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:06 pm
LuvSports! wrote:How was Washington???
Marvelous - didn't get that interview with Donald Dell I was hoping for, but there's always next year.
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Re: This is Cheating!
by MMT1 Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:20 pm
legendkillarV2 wrote:The key word was in the title of your argument, perspective.
What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.
I'm sorry, I don't quite follow - are you saying the things said before are, or are not, worse than what Kyrigos said? I agree that social media has contributed to the exaggerated outrage (if that's what you meant!).
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by Guest Wed 02 Sep 2015, 10:31 pm
MMT1 wrote:legendkillarV2 wrote:The key word was in the title of your argument, perspective.
What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.
I'm sorry, I don't quite follow - are you saying the things said before are, or are not, worse than what Kyrigos said? I agree that social media has contributed to the exaggerated outrage (if that's what you meant!).
Again perspective. Define what is worse? What Kyrgios said was of offence to Stan. Because it isn't aimed at anyone else, we don't take offence. I find what he said to be distasteful. All of what was mentioned in the article again for me distasteful. I can see why some were outraged because declaring in front of the world someone's privacy is a pretty crappy thing to do. That doesn't by any means exonerate the others mentioned.
Just that Kyrgios's words are more captured within the media because of the joy of technology.
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by Galted Thu 03 Sep 2015, 1:09 pm
hawkeye wrote:This is what Kyrgios did to gain advantage over Wawrinka in their 2nd round match in Montreal
http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/12/nick-kyrgios-to-stan-wawrinka-kokkinakis-banged-your-girlfriend-sorry-to-tell-you-that-mate/
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by greengoblin Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:36 pm
Turns out now that Krygios was completely misunderstood and his 'sorry to tell you that mate' was in fact completely earnest. He'd been wracked with guilt the whole match wondering whether to tell Stan or not. In the end, he just couldn't contain his altruistic urges.
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by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:46 pm
Can't believe there has been 6 pages of discussion on this. Who cares?!?!
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by Guest Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:14 pm
As my granddad once said "Doesn't care was meant to care"
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:19 pm
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Can't believe there has been 6 pages of discussion on this. Who cares?!?!
Unless you like to hear about who banged your GF, everyone else should care
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:20 pm
legendkillarV2 wrote:As my granddad once said "Doesn't care was meant to care"
Very true, sadly you have not learned anything from that smart old man...
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by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:22 pm
Is there a thread discussing Azarenka?
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:24 pm
No, there are 20 more sexier players then her now.
You don't watch much tennis, do you?
You don't watch much tennis, do you?
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by greengoblin Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:40 pm
Jahu wrote:No, there are 20 more sexier players then her now.
You don't watch much tennis, do you?
Have to agree. Has never struck me as attractive - same with wozniacki.
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:52 pm
Yeah, while Aza has some thighs, Woz is downright a farm girl gone bad in the city.
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by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 03 Sep 2015, 4:24 pm
Jahu wrote:No, there are 20 more sexier players then her now.
You don't watch much tennis, do you?
Good lord no, not my type of sport.
But she was rude to an umpire, which is far worse than being rude to another player, so I assumed this section had gone into meltdown.
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm
Rude? Serena has threatened the line umpire with "I could kill you/i did not say I could kill you"
Rude is IN man, including sexual stories of your friends bedroom
Rude is IN man, including sexual stories of your friends bedroom
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Re: This is Cheating!
by temporary21 Thu 03 Sep 2015, 4:54 pm
Do I start inserting the Graphite rods? 
Damn auto correct
Damn auto correct
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Re: This is Cheating!
by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 5:04 pm
Are we friends now, tempo?
You flirting with me again?
Hope LF does not see this comment, she will be jealous
You flirting with me again?
Hope LF does not see this comment, she will be jealous
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by Guest Thu 03 Sep 2015, 6:14 pm
Nah not meltdown.
I think the shock factor has subsided. It just gets a little crazy when it gets compared to other incidents the waters become muddier. Then it's a meltdown.
I think the shock factor has subsided. It just gets a little crazy when it gets compared to other incidents the waters become muddier. Then it's a meltdown.
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 6:28 pm
Luv, how's your book going?
ignore the moral side of this thread, don't get carried away
ignore the moral side of this thread, don't get carried away
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by JuliusHMarx Thu 03 Sep 2015, 6:30 pm
legendkillarV2 wrote:I didn't know you were a Moyet fan!
Depends on the Situation.
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by LuvSports! Thu 03 Sep 2015, 6:58 pm
Jahu wrote:Luv, how's your book going?
ignore the moral side of this thread, don't get carried away
Haha, waiting until after the US open to pitch it to Tennis.com.
Starting my new job in Wiltshire soon as a reporter. Big scary world for little LS.
How's the saucy hunt going? As saucy as a direct hit on a heinz factory?
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by Jahu Thu 03 Sep 2015, 7:34 pm
Ah nice, chill till then.
Hunting season has finished, now I'm just dipping into sauce, but slowly and gently
Hunting season has finished, now I'm just dipping into sauce, but slowly and gently
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by Galted Thu 03 Sep 2015, 7:55 pm
JuliusHMarx wrote:legendkillarV2 wrote:I didn't know you were a Moyet fan!
Depends on the Situation.
Only You could come up with that.
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by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri 04 Sep 2015, 11:16 am
Jahu wrote:Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Can't believe there has been 6 pages of discussion on this. Who cares?!?!
Unless you like to hear about who banged your GF, everyone else should care
60% of the time, it works everytime.
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Re: This is Cheating!
by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:18 pm
So in conclusion, its either political correctness gone mad, panic everyone!
or its a total disgrace to humanity, panic everyone!
Its just a bum move, the sort of thing footballers would do, but tennis players are expected to have a better standard.
or its a total disgrace to humanity, panic everyone!
Its just a bum move, the sort of thing footballers would do, but tennis players are expected to have a better standard.
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