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Season 8 Homepage II
First topic message reminder :
2014/2015 – London Wasps
Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Bath Rugby | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
2 | Exeter Chiefs | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
3 | Gloucester | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
4 | Harlequins | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
5 | Leicester Tigers | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
6 | London Irish | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
7 | London Wasps | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
8 | Newcastle Falcons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
9 | Northampton Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
10 | Sale Sharks | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
11 | Saracens | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
12 | Worcester Warriors | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
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Anglo Welsh Homepage
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.
Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.
Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
Last edited by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 7:33 pm; edited 9 times in total (Reason for editing : Add in links and tables etc)
Fluxy- Aviva Premiership Commissioner
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George is a good 2 seasons ahead of LCD in quality. I honestly don't know why LCD was ever in the squad.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:No, LCD was just dreadful. Just watching 2nd half again.
George's missed throws seemed to be more the French reading it and contesting it. LCD just threw all over the place with nobody standing a chance. He's just not anywhere near this level.
French scrum got on top slightly but lost it when subs came on (Antonio & ??). Hard to judge too much as that pitch was a disgrace.
Cips did ok, as did Attwood & Mako off the bench.
Cips was outstanding a way above ok. Mako also was really good. Pape and arous off made a difference.
France were so far ahead and did ease up. Cipriani in hugely difficult circumstances changed the game and will be food for thought http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/aug/22/danny-cipriani-england-france-world-cup-squad
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:George is a good 2 seasons ahead of LCD in quality. I honestly don't know why LCD was ever in the squad.
Technique wise agree. In loose then no. England super keen on LCD as he trained so well and offers that X factor. I agree it's probably too soon for him but he is a super prospect
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Likewise Woodwards comment re ford being not ready and cips more balanced has merit but I believe in ford as starting 10
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Cips was decent, certainly not outstanding, not like you to go ott lol.
Did you think May played himself out of the XV? His work under the high ball was truly awful, he was targeted and it worked. Nowell was steady and Watson a cert.
Did you think May played himself out of the XV? His work under the high ball was truly awful, he was targeted and it worked. Nowell was steady and Watson a cert.
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Cips to start after a decent cameo
I bloody hope not! As bad as Ford was, he has credit. Ford with Farrell off the bench for me, Cips wouldn't make the squad.
I bloody hope not! As bad as Ford was, he has credit. Ford with Farrell off the bench for me, Cips wouldn't make the squad.
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Guscott doesn't pick Burgess or Cips, I tend to agree. If you're only going 2 x FH it has to be Ford & Farrell.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Guscott doesn't pick Burgess or Cips, I tend to agree. If you're only going 2 x FH it has to be Ford & Farrell.
Agree but cips magic show makes him
Think twice.
I thought burrel did well but can't judge any backs on that as pack so beaten it was living off scraps
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Deeply disappointing performance
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Thought Burrell was abysmal
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Burrell got go forward. He made yards when he got it. Didn't take a single ball in space.
JJ was not as threatening as usual. Robshaw and Haskell added nothing and Billy only woke up in last 20. Brown and nowell were decent May a disaster.
All subs brought something.
JJ was not as threatening as usual. Robshaw and Haskell added nothing and Billy only woke up in last 20. Brown and nowell were decent May a disaster.
All subs brought something.
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More questions than answers for Bomber from that game.
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I'm just hoping it was a case of not having played any rugby over the last 2-3 months and getting the rustiness out of the way early on. Our discipline in the first half was simply shocking.
Not sure we can really judge any of the backs with the platform, only positives were that our defence again held up very strongly, Cipriani, Attwood and Easter came off and did very well.
The decision not to include Hartley is going to cost us completely, our lineout has become a bit of a shambles - with all the training camps I don't know how we keep on messing up.
Not sure we can really judge any of the backs with the platform, only positives were that our defence again held up very strongly, Cipriani, Attwood and Easter came off and did very well.
The decision not to include Hartley is going to cost us completely, our lineout has become a bit of a shambles - with all the training camps I don't know how we keep on messing up.
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Burrell was pretty decent I thought. May was horrendous though, never realised how bad he was under the high ball.
11. Nowell
14. Watson
15. Brown
Looks a cert at the minute.
11. Nowell
14. Watson
15. Brown
Looks a cert at the minute.
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The lineout was a concern. It's like Chouly new the calls.
France were brilliant for 60 mins. Picamoles, Huget and Tilous-Borde were genuinely world class. They will be pleased. Very pleased.
Bring Dusatoir in for Le Roux and you have your first choice I think.
France were brilliant for 60 mins. Picamoles, Huget and Tilous-Borde were genuinely world class. They will be pleased. Very pleased.
Bring Dusatoir in for Le Roux and you have your first choice I think.
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Steven_Sharks wrote:Burrell got go forward. He made yards when he got it. Didn't take a single ball in space.
JJ was not as threatening as usual. Robshaw and Haskell added nothing and Billy only woke up in last 20. Brown and nowell were decent May a disaster.
All subs brought something.
How can you say may was a disaster ? Got out jumped once and mid judged a ball. We gave no decent ball to our backs and people like JJ were forced to run up blind alleys. Throw in stuttering halfbacks and a retreating pack and you have a dreadful platform.
Disaster would be Cole or both youngs who were awful. You would struggle to get more stuffed than our front row at int level.
We have to start Wilson and somehow get Hartley In to that side.
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/aug/23/france-england-stuart-lancaster-player-ratings
Thought front row were 2 out of 10 at best but accurate after that
Thought front row were 2 out of 10 at best but accurate after that
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Steven_Sharks wrote:The lineout was a concern. It's like Chouly new the calls.
France were brilliant for 60 mins. Picamoles, Huget and Tilous-Borde were genuinely world class. They will be pleased. Very pleased.
Bring Dusatoir in for Le Roux and you have your first choice I think.
Those 3 and arous were excellent. Nowell should have stopped huget for the try but huget is the real deal
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Cant believe how bad the pitch was yesterday.
Lancaster is going to have some interesting decisions to make now, Attwood and George have played themselves in but I'd take the gamble and pick Hartley as we need a working lineout.
Ford looked really nervous yesterday, again you forget how inexperienced he is but a very pleasing thing was he nailed his kicks and 12 months ago he wouldn't have done.
Lancaster is going to have some interesting decisions to make now, Attwood and George have played themselves in but I'd take the gamble and pick Hartley as we need a working lineout.
Ford looked really nervous yesterday, again you forget how inexperienced he is but a very pleasing thing was he nailed his kicks and 12 months ago he wouldn't have done.
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Ford looked more rusty I thought.
Steve is spot on, May was a disaster. You can't play wing and be that bad under the high ball. Luckily he's been found out early. May slipped off so many tackles too. Is it too late to bring back Yarde?
Steve is spot on, May was a disaster. You can't play wing and be that bad under the high ball. Luckily he's been found out early. May slipped off so many tackles too. Is it too late to bring back Yarde?
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Burrell was pretty decent I thought. May was horrendous though, never realised how bad he was under the high ball.
11. Nowell
14. Watson
15. Brown
Looks a cert at the minute.
It does, but the question is, is it right?
It appears plainly evident that England are better with 2 distributors in the backline. That means, one of Slade, Cipriani or Goode has to play, unless we go 10. Ford 12. Farrell. The issue with that is that Farrell lacks a genuine running/carrying threat so is unlikely to tie any defenders in and create space outside. We alos have seen tat we can't rely on the pack to get us over the gainline, so we need a couple of backs who can do so. Nowell, May, JJ, Watson can all do it finding gaps, but none can make hard yards if needed. Burgess??? I don't like it, but it seems like he is the only back who can do that. Quite how you balance those issues in selection is a difficult question to answer.
Before that, the pack issues need addressing anyway. As I have been for a while, I am genuinely concerned that we may not make it out of the pool stage.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Ford looked more rusty I thought.
Steve is spot on, May was a disaster. You can't play wing and be that bad under the high ball. Luckily he's been found out early. May slipped off so many tackles too. Is it too late to bring back Yarde?
Lol he missed zero tackles.
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.Ozzy3213 wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:Burrell was pretty decent I thought. May was horrendous though, never realised how bad he was under the high ball.
11. Nowell
14. Watson
15. Brown
Looks a cert at the minute.
It does, but the question is, is it right?
It appears plainly evident that England are better with 2 distributors in the backline. That means, one of Slade, Cipriani or Goode has to play, unless we go 10. Ford 12. Farrell. The issue with that is that Farrell lacks a genuine running/carrying threat so is unlikely to tie any defenders in and create space outside. We alos have seen tat we can't rely on the pack to get us over the gainline, so we need a couple of backs who can do so. Nowell, May, JJ, Watson can all do it finding gaps, but none can make hard yards if needed. Burgess??? I don't like it, but it seems like he is the only back who can do that. Quite how you balance those issues in selection is a difficult question to answer.
Before that, the pack issues need addressing anyway. As I have been for a while, I am genuinely concerned that we may not make it out of the pool stage.
Makes tuilagi look a real miss pete. Could also mean we look at bv and Morgan in the backrow. Haskell a great impact sub but never cuts it when starting and wood off the pace so it could be an option to get go forward
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May missed numerous tackles, I've watched the game twice now.
I see your point Pete, Barritt is looking a must.
9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. Nowell
12. Barritt
13. Joseph
14. Watson
15. Brown
21. Care
22. Farrell/Slade
23. Slade/Back 3
Can we see anything but this?
I see your point Pete, Barritt is looking a must.
9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. Nowell
12. Barritt
13. Joseph
14. Watson
15. Brown
21. Care
22. Farrell/Slade
23. Slade/Back 3
Can we see anything but this?
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There is no way that Bomber will be calling up anyone from outside the squad he has. I reckon this will be his 31;-
Youngs, Webber, LCD
Marler, Vunipola, Cole, Wilson, Brookes
Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Parling
Robshaw, Wood, Haskell, Vunipola, Morgan
Youngs, Care, Wigglesworth
Farrell, Ford
Burgess, Barritt, Joseph, Twelvetrees
May, Nowell, Watson, Brown, Goode
Youngs, Webber, LCD
Marler, Vunipola, Cole, Wilson, Brookes
Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Parling
Robshaw, Wood, Haskell, Vunipola, Morgan
Youngs, Care, Wigglesworth
Farrell, Ford
Burgess, Barritt, Joseph, Twelvetrees
May, Nowell, Watson, Brown, Goode
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I'd start Farrell at 10 Pooly. Ford has buckled under pressure in big games more than once. That has to be a worry.
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Ozzy3213 wrote:I'd start Farrell at 10 Pooly. Ford has buckled under pressure in big games more than once. That has to be a worry.
It is a worry Pete.
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Farrell wasn't very good against France the week before though - Ford's been our best no10 for a year and gets us playing some nice attacking rugby and has sorted out his kicking.
He improved when Care came on as got a better service and agree that the England backline needs another play maker, as everything just comes off Ford - even all the clearance kicks go to him so it makes it so easy for defences to target him, especially when our forwards 'perform' like they did.
He improved when Care came on as got a better service and agree that the England backline needs another play maker, as everything just comes off Ford - even all the clearance kicks go to him so it makes it so easy for defences to target him, especially when our forwards 'perform' like they did.
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Pete, reckon you are very close with the squad there. LCD has had great reviews from his training camp, but can see George edging him now and Twelvetrees does seem a favourite of the coaches - would love Slade to go ahead of him but can't see it, which is such a shame as he could offer a lot.
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There is no way that Bomber will be calling up anyone from outside the squad he has. I reckon this will be his 31;-
Youngs, Webber, George
Marler, Vunipola, Cole, Wilson, Brookes
Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Parling
Robshaw, Wood, Haskell, Vunipola, Morgan
Youngs, Care, Wigglesworth
Farrell, Ford
Burrell, Barritt, Joseph, Slade
May, Nowell, Watson, Brown, Goode
That would be my stab.
May perhaps the last luckiest to sneak in.
Youngs, Webber, George
Marler, Vunipola, Cole, Wilson, Brookes
Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Parling
Robshaw, Wood, Haskell, Vunipola, Morgan
Youngs, Care, Wigglesworth
Farrell, Ford
Burrell, Barritt, Joseph, Slade
May, Nowell, Watson, Brown, Goode
That would be my stab.
May perhaps the last luckiest to sneak in.
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Both similar to SCW and Will Greenwoods squad
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/22067/9962416/clive-woodward-and-will-greenwood-select-their-england-squad
But they are opting for Kruis ahead of Attwood - the big call is on Burrell and Burgess, they;ve gone with Burrell but think Lancaster will go with Burgess.
Not sure I'd agree May is lucky to sneak in, has deserved it and none of the other wingers did enough to put pressure on him.
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/22067/9962416/clive-woodward-and-will-greenwood-select-their-england-squad
But they are opting for Kruis ahead of Attwood - the big call is on Burrell and Burgess, they;ve gone with Burrell but think Lancaster will go with Burgess.
Not sure I'd agree May is lucky to sneak in, has deserved it and none of the other wingers did enough to put pressure on him.
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None of them got a chance to be fair Chris. May's defence and lack of ability under the high ball is a major worry.
You're probably right on Burgess although I hope you're wrong.
You're probably right on Burgess although I hope you're wrong.
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FTD binned from French 31, they're taking Michalak & Tales
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Dropping FTD is lunacy. Him and tillous borde is a cracking half back lineup.
Michalak always lets you down at some point and if it rains .........
One for you here pooly re Cips http://intheloose.com/2014/09/21/10-reasons-danny-cipriani-start-10-england/
England's game against Ireland In September is huge now
Michalak always lets you down at some point and if it rains .........
One for you here pooly re Cips http://intheloose.com/2014/09/21/10-reasons-danny-cipriani-start-10-england/
England's game against Ireland In September is huge now
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Yea I watched the game Matt....twice
Cips done ok, he'd miss out behind Farrell/Ford though
Cips done ok, he'd miss out behind Farrell/Ford though
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I would not start him but I think there is a serious argument to having him on bench as 10/15 cover.
If you go ford starting then is Farrell really a bench option who would change things ?
I think a bench of Mako, ( whichever hooker), Cole, Kruis, Haskell, youngs, Cips, (nowell or May or Watson) had real impact and oomph.
If you go ford starting then is Farrell really a bench option who would change things ?
I think a bench of Mako, ( whichever hooker), Cole, Kruis, Haskell, youngs, Cips, (nowell or May or Watson) had real impact and oomph.
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May will be lucky to make the bench after that performance
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:May will be lucky to make the bench after that performance
I think everyone has worked out you have a problem with May by your constant posts regarding him.
Luckily most of the rugby world disagrees and thinks it was the england pack that was the issue. Picking out a winger who had a hard job with 2 excellent kicks in that performance is frankly odd.
As ever pack win matches and the backs decide by how much. Our discipline set piece and breakdown saw France have 80% of the play until last 15 minutes. That is the worrying issue. If you get obliterated at set piece and breakdown you do not win and backs live off scraps. The week before we lived off scraps and the outside backs were sensational with what they had. This week they were against much better players
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May had a few things to do and he done them badly. As Steve said earlier, he had a nightmare game.
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Still can't understand how
Ftd not picked.
France could be a surprise package again in wc
Ftd not picked.
France could be a surprise package again in wc
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Anyone have any no7s available at all? Think I may have overloaded on blindsides!
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Watched the England game live, couldn't believe how badly we were dominated at the breakdown and scrum, I'm hoping its just rustiness after a long lay off, and they'll be firing on all cylinders in 2 weeks against Ireland.
Plus points:
Nowell looked good, was a threat every time he had ball in hand and made all his tackles. I'd like to see a bit more from him chasing the high ball, as think he could make a real impact there, but for me he starts with Watson (not sure who would play left wing out of those 2)
Cipriani made an impact from full back, obviously covers 10. I think he'll miss out because of Slade and Goode, but i'd strongly consider having him in ahead of Goode and as the 3rd choice 10, leave Slade to compete as a centre
Easter made an impact, but along with Cipriani i'm not sure if this was just because of France taking their foot off the gas, but you can only play whats in front of you, and they both did well.
George showed up around the field, few good carries and tackles, he lost the first lineout but not sure of his stats after that
Cons
Pack collectively had a shocker, I reckon Haskell was the only one in the first half who looked like he was competing physically. As I say, hopefully just rust, but its a bit concerning given all the talk about the intensity of the training sessions
Ford looked like he needed a hand, was good to see Brown using his boot to clear the line a bit more often, but maybe we need that from him coming into the line, rather than just when he catches a high ball.
I'd find it hard to criticise any of the backs too much because the pack was just dominated, but we need to have another playmaking option if we're on the back foot, not sure where that would come from
Plus points:
Nowell looked good, was a threat every time he had ball in hand and made all his tackles. I'd like to see a bit more from him chasing the high ball, as think he could make a real impact there, but for me he starts with Watson (not sure who would play left wing out of those 2)
Cipriani made an impact from full back, obviously covers 10. I think he'll miss out because of Slade and Goode, but i'd strongly consider having him in ahead of Goode and as the 3rd choice 10, leave Slade to compete as a centre
Easter made an impact, but along with Cipriani i'm not sure if this was just because of France taking their foot off the gas, but you can only play whats in front of you, and they both did well.
George showed up around the field, few good carries and tackles, he lost the first lineout but not sure of his stats after that
Cons
Pack collectively had a shocker, I reckon Haskell was the only one in the first half who looked like he was competing physically. As I say, hopefully just rust, but its a bit concerning given all the talk about the intensity of the training sessions
Ford looked like he needed a hand, was good to see Brown using his boot to clear the line a bit more often, but maybe we need that from him coming into the line, rather than just when he catches a high ball.
I'd find it hard to criticise any of the backs too much because the pack was just dominated, but we need to have another playmaking option if we're on the back foot, not sure where that would come from
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I thought Brown had an ok game, a couple of errors and done by Huget but some vital kicking and tackles and hard running plus he was our best rucker (bit embarrassing for the pack…) and actually passed for a try!. Marler was as poor as I've seen him in ages, Cole too, in fact the whole pack (even Robshaw) were dross
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Ozzy3213 wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:Burrell was pretty decent I thought. May was horrendous though, never realised how bad he was under the high ball.
11. Nowell
14. Watson
15. Brown
Looks a cert at the minute.
It does, but the question is, is it right?
It appears plainly evident that England are better with 2 distributors in the backline. That means, one of Slade, Cipriani or Goode has to play, unless we go 10. Ford 12. Farrell. The issue with that is that Farrell lacks a genuine running/carrying threat so is unlikely to tie any defenders in and create space outside. We alos have seen tat we can't rely on the pack to get us over the gainline, so we need a couple of backs who can do so. Nowell, May, JJ, Watson can all do it finding gaps, but none can make hard yards if needed. Burgess??? I don't like it, but it seems like he is the only back who can do that. Quite how you balance those issues in selection is a difficult question to answer.
Before that, the pack issues need addressing anyway. As I have been for a while, I am genuinely concerned that we may not make it out of the pool stage.
It won't be what we do, but:
Youngs or Care - Watson - Slade - JJ- Nowell - Brown
Bench of Care or Youngs - Farrell or Goode - May
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Can Somebody please post this on the page for this weeks fixtures. Will struggle to get after today until Sunday/Monday
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
16. Scott Baldwin 17. Ben Robinson 18. John Afoa 19. Nick Easter 20. Tom Wood 21. Karl Dickson 22. Damian McKenzie 23. Teddy Thomas
Tactics
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Manager – Steven_Sharks
01. Tony Woodcock | 09. Ruan Pienaar |
02. Schalk Brits | 10. Steven Myler (k) |
03. Kieran Brookes | |
04. Luke Romano | 11. Jack Nowell |
05. George Kruis | 12. Robbie Henshaw |
06. Jaco Kriel | 13. Jonathan Joseph |
07. Michael Hooper (c) | 14. Yoann Huget |
08. Damien Chouly | 15. Rob Kearney |
16. Scott Baldwin 17. Ben Robinson 18. John Afoa 19. Nick Easter 20. Tom Wood 21. Karl Dickson 22. Damian McKenzie 23. Teddy Thomas
Tactics
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Isn;t Kriel a 13?
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Jesse Kriel is a 13/15/WG. Jaco Kriel is the Lions blindside who was unlucky to miss out on the Boks training squad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbKQ-6cxgBU
This is Jaco Driver
This is Jaco Driver
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Would people rate Whiteley or josh Strauss higher?
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