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Post by RanjitPatel Sun 04 Oct 2015, 12:21 pm

Haven't seen this mentioned so far but Matthysse was stopped in the 10th after looking a bit bemused by Postol's jab and movement up to that point but also being in the fight.

It also looked like he could have gone on.

Postol V Crawford next hopefully.

What's next for Lucas Matthysse?


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Post by Herman Jaeger Sun 04 Oct 2015, 12:57 pm

Maybe Provodnikov did more damage than we realised, or maybe it was an accumulation thing after a series of tough exciting fights. Maybe his style wasn't suited to longevity but I think he can come again. Although he should try to avoid the boxers with elite level skill.

Haven't seen it, but read he caught a headbutt and the punch that finished him was on the same spot as the headbutt. Maybe concussion?

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Post by Herman Jaeger Sun 04 Oct 2015, 1:32 pm

I mean you boy Danny Garcia relinquished instead he fights Malignaggi and now wants a Thurman-battered Guerrero. Instead of rematching Matthysse and fighting Postol ffs! And he wonders why people call him a cherrypicker.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 04 Oct 2015, 2:30 pm

Impressive I got it totally wrong

I haven't seen it yet but people say he shut down mattheysse by clinching and keeping it long

Roach is a freaking genius

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Post by Valero's Conscience Sun 04 Oct 2015, 4:13 pm

Yeah saw this and surprised albeit I didn't know anything about Postol.

Mattysse said he could continue but felt a pop in his eye!

I love watching Mattysse but is definitely beatable against a skilled fighter with a good game plan and Roach is good at that.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sun 04 Oct 2015, 4:31 pm

Postol always had a chance as style wise he is all wrong for Matthysse but i still backed Lucas to win good for Postol i hope he goes on from here and doesnt become like Garcia

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 10:16 am

Really want to see Postol-Garcia now. Also, if we're talking 140lbs, that twit Broner should be in the mix now too.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 11:57 am

Broner won't be fighting Postol because of Uncle Bob and Al not playing nicely with each other, the same reason is also valid with Garcia and Postol

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:02 pm

Pathetic.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:11 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Pathetic.

What is?

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:15 pm

So fair do's, Garcia had a reason for not fighting Postol, but no excuses for not rematching Matthysse in my book.

Thing is with Garcia, if he'd go after Thurman or Porter, instead of Malignaggi and Guerrero, all would be forgiven.

But any mention of those two to his father and he instantly dismissed those fights for some reason. Maybe it's the father who's the cherrypicker and not Danny.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:19 pm

What is to forgive ??????????????????????????

He's beat Khan, Matty, Petersen, Holt......

Worry about forgiving guys like Quigg and Kell Brook..


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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:30 pm

What's to forgive you dunce?

Him and hid dad are making easy money at the expense of the fans who wanted to see a Matthysse rematch.

Malignaggi and Guerrero are irrelevant in the welterweight division at present, who the hell wants to see Garcia fight them instead of Matthysse, Thurman or Porter. Why was his dad so keen to dismiss fights with Keith or Shawn when the media were calling for Danny to face them. Those two were the natural progression for him. The other two are a step back. Easy money or conning the fans if you prefer.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:34 pm

Silly little boy calling people names...

I'll wait till a more knowledgeable poster wants to debate....It shouldn't be long.. Cool

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Post by Nico the gman Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:40 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What is to forgive ??????????????????????????

He's beat Khan, Matty, Petersen, Holt......

Worry about forgiving guys like Quigg and Kell Brook..
Spot on Truss, many on here didn't give him a cat in hell's chance of beating Matthysse, won by UD and dropped Matthysse in the 11th,also stopped Khan despite being outboxed early on, didn't cherry pick those two.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:42 pm

It's like Andre Ward, Nico..........Cleaned out a division and getting abused on here while the same retarded types salivate over Quigg beating Frampo's sloppy thirds in his 5th defence...

All a bit silly..


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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:50 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Pathetic.

What is?

The boxing politics (not you mate!).

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:51 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What is to forgive ??????????????????????????

He's beat Khan, Matty, Petersen, Holt......

Worry about forgiving guys like Quigg and Kell Brook..

Holt? Bloody hell, shut the front door, we've an ATG on our hands here....... Rolling Eyes

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:52 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It's like Andre Ward, Nico..........Cleaned out a division and getting abused on here while the same retarded types salivate over Quigg beating Frampo's sloppy thirds in his 5th defence...

All a bit silly..

Did Garcia clean out a division??

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:53 pm

Media pressure forced him to take the Matthysse fight, he was all over the Khan fight for obvious reasons.

If you think Paulie and Guerrero are (a)relevant and (b)the natural progression and (c) harder fights than Thurman or Porter, then there's little point in debating.

Always said it and I'll say it again, his dad's a cherrypicker.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:58 pm

Everybody is a cherrypicker............ Rolling Eyes

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Post by Nico the gman Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:03 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Media pressure forced him to take the Matthysse fight, he was all over the Khan fight for obvious reasons.

If you think Paulie and Guerrero are (a)relevant and (b)the natural progression and (c) harder fights than Thurman or Porter, then there's little point in debating.

Always said it and I'll say it again, his dad's a cherrypicker.
Doesn't matter who forced Garcia to take the fight against Mathysse, he won didn't he, out hit the big hitter.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:04 pm

Almost everybody picked Matty on here.............as they did when he fought Khan....

If he's a cherrypicker then he's a good value one compared to other fighters around..

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:09 pm

As I suspected Truss, you failed to address any of the points.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:12 pm

Not points mate......Biased supposition !!.

Didn't see the need to address anything..

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:17 pm

Yep...

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:19 pm

He is no worse than Khan or Brook

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:23 pm

No he's a lot better....

I mean why does it matter why he fights Matty.... If he does...geez..

Barrel scraping..

I'm having Ali out of my heavy list....Because a little birdy told me he didn't fancy Frazier, Liston or Foreman

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:25 pm

No worse than Khan anyway, Adam.

Khan and Garcia the two cherrypickers at the axis for me.

Seen no evidence from Brook that he's at it, though I wish he'd let Brandon have his own gloves and waived the rematch clause. But that's another matter.

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:25 pm

Khan seems to get off way a lot of cherry picking. Guess because he is from here.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:27 pm

Devon alexander is cherry picking..........

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:28 pm

It is because Khan doesn't struggle with tht style of a fighter.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:29 pm

AdamT wrote:It is because Khan doesn't struggle with tht style of a fighter.

You wouldn't have a long career If you always picked fighters you did struggle with........

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:31 pm

Truss he has a habit of taking little risks these days. Khan is a brilliant 4 or 5 round boxer. That is the only compliment he gets from me.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm

Garcia, Alexander, Maidana, Paulie, Algieri, Collazo, Judah, McCloskey..........

Doesn't look bad to me.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Yep...
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Herman Jaeger wrote:Yep...
clap

How pitiful is this guy..

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:35 pm

AdamT wrote:It is because Khan doesn't struggle with tht style of a fighter.


At last, someone with a brain.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:35 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
Herman Jaeger wrote:Yep...
clap

How pitiful is this guy..

Yep...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:37 pm

Nico the gman wrote:
Herman Jaeger wrote:Media pressure forced him to take the Matthysse fight, he was all over the Khan fight for obvious reasons.

If you think Paulie and Guerrero are (a)relevant and (b)the natural progression and (c) harder fights than Thurman or Porter, then there's little point in debating.

Always said it and I'll say it again, his dad's a cherrypicker.
Doesn't matter who forced Garcia to take the fight against Mathysse, he won didn't he, out hit the big hitter.

When someone hates your Dad......You can't win whatever you do..

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:40 pm

Khan has cherry picked since Garcia. Also don't put McCloskey in there.

Paul made him look silly. Yes Khan was winning rounds, but he looked sh1t to be honest. Far from a p4p fighter.

Judah was a good win and Maidana was a great win.

I say it like it is. Alexander was a very good win, but that is the style Khan matches up well against.

He didn't look great against Chris in his last fight.

Anyway if he fights Manny I'm sticking a large sum on a Pacquiao ko.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:41 pm

6 rounds to 0 and he made him look silly....

Stopped reading after that..

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:43 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:
Herman Jaeger wrote:Media pressure forced him to take the Matthysse fight, he was all over the Khan fight for obvious reasons.

If you think Paulie and Guerrero are (a)relevant and (b)the natural progression and (c) harder fights than Thurman or Porter, then there's little point in debating.

Always said it and I'll say it again, his dad's a cherrypicker.
Doesn't matter who forced Garcia to take the fight against Mathysse, he won didn't he, out hit the big hitter.

When someone hates your Dad......You can't win whatever you do..


I think I find Danny more irritating than his pops to be honest. At least , and usually when he's not trying to be, his dad can occasionally be funny.

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:44 pm

He did, Khan landed very few. McCloskey was being defensive. If he had speed he would of landed on Amir.

Tell me one round were Amir dominated? Did you even watch the fight?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:45 pm

60-54 x 3............

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:45 pm

You sticking a large sum Adam? I'm sticking my life savings.

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:46 pm

Ok mate, Khan looke sensational.

Put it this way. He is afraid to take any challeneges unless named Floyd or Manny for one reason. He is desperate for the huge pay day and a potential win against past it greats.

He is not a great fighter and he is going to get chinned soon.

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:48 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:You sticking a large sum Adam? I'm sticking my life savings.

Minute Manny starts throwing combos, the chicken dance will be on display. Manny didn't perform as badly as some would make you believe h=in his last fight.

He has more than enough in the tank to flatten Khan imo.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:48 pm

He is afraid to take on anybody but the best....

60-54 isn't dominating...

I get ya..

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Post by Lance Mon 05 Oct 2015, 1:51 pm

Garcia got to where he did the hard way. I was one of the few who expected him to beat Matthyse, but I didn't think he would beat Khan. Two great wins. No doubt he is cashing in his name and titles a bit since. Unfortunately most do.

But gotta agree with Truss. Brook one decent win...cashing in easy home defences since. Quigg no great wins but being kept busy cashing in his pretend title. Anyone who thinks Garcia is like these two is mistaken.

I actually think Matthyse is hugely overrated. Outboxed by Garcia, outboxed by Alexander, outboxed by Pistol. He's a hard man and great seek and destroy abilities, but he's never been top dog at LWW.That was wishful thinking by the guys who love GGG type fighters

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