QF1: South Africa v Wales, 17 October

by **George Carlin** Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:08 am

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SOUTH AFRICA v WALES

17 October 2015
16:00 BST (UTC+01)
Twickenham, London

Live on expensive telly

Ref: Wayne Barnes (England)
ARs: George Clancy (Ireland) and JP Doyle (England)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)

A. Head to Head

30 Played 30
27 Won 2
1 Drawn 1
2 Lost 27
814 Points 440

B. Recent Form

29 November 2014
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
12–6 to Wales

21 June 2014
Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit
31–30 to South Africa

14 June 2014
Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban
38–16 to South Africa

9 November 2013
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
15–24 to South Africa

11 September 2011
Wellington Regional Stadium, Wellington
17–16 to South Africa

13 November 2010
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
25–29 to South Africa

5 June 2010
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
31–34 to South Africa

8 November 2008
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
15–20 to South Africa

C. TEAMS:
SOUTH AFRICA
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Le Roux; Pietersen, Kriel, De Allende, Habana; Pollard, Du Preez (capt); Mtawarira, B du Plessis, Malherbe; De Jager, Etzebeth; Burger, Louw, Vermeulen.

Replacements: Strauss for Du Plessis (55), Nyakane for Tendai Mtawarira (56), J Du Plessis for Malherbe (60), Du Toit for Etzebeth (67), Alberts for Louw (67), Lambie for Pollard (76), Serfontein for Kriel (67), Pienaar (unused).

WALES
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Anscombe; Cuthbert, Morgan, Roberts, North; Biggar, G Davies; Jenkins, Baldwin, Lee; Charteris, AW Jones; Lydiate, Warburton (capt), Faletau.

Replacements: Owens for Baldwin (56), James for Jenkins (55), Francis for Lee (55), Davies for Charteris (63), Tipuric for Lydiate (67), L Williams for G Davies (70), Priestland for Biggar (73), Hook for Morgan (67).

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:25 pm

Jeez. Are the Welsh forwards really pushing the pack that rag-dolled us, around? Good play just stay disciplined

by offload Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:25 pm

I'm watching rugby suicide with these penalties.

by **Notch** Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:26 pm

And yet when I think of many of the best test matches of recent years, Nigel Owens has been in the middle.

by mckay1402 Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:26 pm

South Africa don't have to stay on their feet at the breakdown then?

by nathan Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:27 pm

Notch wrote:And yet when I think of many of the best test matches of recent years, Nigel Owens has been in the middle.

He's also been in the middle for some of the worst.

by eirebilly Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:27 pm

Very lucky there for SA, that could have been reviewed and based on the TMO's this RWC could have led to more.

For the record, I believe he was going for the ball but the ref's have been hard on kicking near players on the ground.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:28 pm

Biggar is a little bit good isn't he, nobody in world Rugby is better than him at the kick, chase and gather.

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:28 pm

You're right Notch but so much depends on the players too.
I don't think Barnes has awarded a penalty without warning the offender first. If they ignore it, they deserve to be penalised.

by offload Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:30 pm

Barnes is doing fine. We can't blame him for poor discipline in our 22.

by mikey_dragon Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:31 pm

offload wrote:Barnes is doing fine. We can't blame him for poor discipline in our 22.

First two penalties were wrong in my view, but we really need to sort it out.

by glamorganalun Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:31 pm

Habana did not release North in the tackle

by kingraf Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:31 pm

IYA - Reckon that a bit like all but the absolute best "X-factor" novelties in cricket and rugby, he just got found out. There's a reason he was a nomad until two or three years ago

by nathan Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:33 pm

whats with the boots for SA?

by eirebilly Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:33 pm

Scarily, SA just seem to be warming up.

by glamorganalun Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:34 pm

Anscome doing much better in this game

by glamorganalun Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:36 pm

All 50 50 are not going Wales way.

by eirebilly Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:37 pm

That was a maul and the scrum should have been for Wales IMHO.

by nathan Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:38 pm

north looked slow getting up to speed there

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:38 pm

It just occurred to me that SA bench is better than Wales so Wales really need to get a decent lead built soon before they start tiring

by nathan Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:39 pm

eirebilly wrote:That was a maul and the scrum should have been for Wales IMHO.

i think he shouted tackle too early, but i agree it should of been a maul

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:42 pm

Great turnover from Warburton

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:43 pm

Not so good, Warburton. Totally isolated but not only his fauilt, Iguess.
Good play from the Saffer back row though

by wales606 Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:43 pm

Disipline killing us early on, now it is all very 50/50. Dan Biggar's brilliance has kept it close

by eirebilly Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:44 pm

I cant help but really like Etzebeth. He really does seem like a great personality.

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:45 pm

Good. Biggar is going for the posts. That means I have time to go for a slash and then get a coffee

by **Notch** Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:46 pm

Dan Biggars kicking routine is like a bizarre dane craze.. Shame he missed that- Wales have been the better team and would deserve the lead going into half-time.

by wales606 Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:46 pm

Ooooh! Off the posts, that could be important

by mikey_dragon Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:48 pm

Wales haven't been great so I will disagree we've been the better team. SA seem to be playing more sensible rugby, and are winning the breakdown battle. It should do Wales some good to go on with the slight lead though...

by **Notch** Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:48 pm

Deserved lead in a very close game for Wales. Wales can certainly win this, but you'd back the SA bench to have a big impact.

by wales606 Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:48 pm

Great drop goal,

Deserve the lead at HT

Breakdown decision not going our way, but has improved

by quinsforever Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:49 pm

biggar really has come of age in rugby terms in this world cup.

by eirebilly Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:49 pm

Well deserved lead for Wales at half time. I actually thin that thy were the better team in the first half. Still feel thy may lose it from the bench but all the Welsh cans can be dead proud of these group of boys.

by kingraf Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:52 pm

Basically Dan Biggar is Buggering us.

by eirebilly Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:52 pm

kingraf wrote:Basically Dan Biggar is Buggering us.

Not sure he is that way inclined Wink

by nobbled Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:52 pm

It's tough to call it. Score is probably a fair reflection. Wales shading it.
Waiting for SA to unleash their pace. If Wales continue to stifle them they can win this.

by majesticimperialman Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:53 pm

Wales certainly playing some great rugby. Putting pressure on the boks at the break down
Deserving there lead at the moment.

You feel that the SA are just a milimetre away from breaking lose. Looking forward now to the second half.

by TJ Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:53 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Biggar is a little bit good isn't he, nobody in world Rugby is better than him at the kick, chase and gather.

Yup - he doesn't appear to do anything spectacular but boy does he do the simple things well. turning into a great player. ( Great dancer as well - Hey Macarena)

by InjuredYetAgain Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:58 pm

TJ wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Biggar is a little bit good isn't he, nobody in world Rugby is better than him at the kick, chase and gather.

Yup - he doesn't appear to do anything spectacular but boy does he do the simple things well. turning into a great player. ( Great dancer as well - Hey Macarena)

And that kind of sums Dan Carter up too. Nothing overly flash but the basics are spot on and he can bring the best out of those around him

by gregortree Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:59 pm

Wales man.of the tournament for me. Brilliant series for him so far.

by TJ Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:00 pm

Fanster wrote:
gregortree wrote:Wayne Barnes....the ready made 'the English ref' excuse for later on.

Not at all!!!

I hope I speak for a lot of Welsh fans when I say he's been great this tournament, and noone will be whinging about Barnes at the end of the game!!!

Well said. He may be a bit picky but he is giving clear instruction and being consistent

by **profitius** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:01 pm

Cracking contest so far. Wales need to tighten up in a few areas but they look comfortable defending. Big test for the Boks in this half.

by glamorganalun Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:01 pm

Good news 4 Scotland bans recinded

by offload Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:02 pm

I think we need to get a score or two ahead before the benches empty, as if it's still level I think the SA bench will edge it.

by mikey_dragon Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:04 pm

Jenkins and Cuthbert just make too many basic errors at this level. They have to go.

by glamorganalun Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:04 pm

The beast knocked it but no advantage to Wales

by brennomac Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:05 pm

Jeez charteris has been a peno machine today

by quinsforever Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:06 pm

charteris and awj now reponsible for 12 SA points...

by offload Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:06 pm

What was Charteris thinking?

Come on, focus.

by quinsforever Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:09 pm

burger. dumbass

by offload Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:10 pm

Biggar is outstanding!

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