Scotland 6N lookahead

by **RDW** Mon 19 Oct 2015, 9:28 am

First topic message reminder :

Scotland 45 – Japan 10

Hardie, Bennett (2), Seymour, Russell

Scotland 39 – USA 16

Visser, Maitland, Nel, Scott, Weir

South Africa 34 – Scotland 16

Seymour

Samoa 33 – Scotland 36

Seymour, Hardie, Laidlaw

Australia 35 – Scotland 34 Scotland 6N lookahead - Page 5 Bangin11

Horne, Seymour, Bennett

Tries this world cup:

Seymour – 4
Bennett – 3
Hardie – 2
Russell, Visser, Maitland, Nel, Scott, Weir, Laidlaw, Horne – 1

6 Nations fixtures:
Scotland V England Scotland 6N lookahead - Page 5 2gwb9210

Wales V Scotland

Italy V Scotland

Scotland V France
Ireland V Scotland

by R!skysports Mon 02 Nov 2015, 12:27 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Screw the world cup post mortem - the most important news is I swept aside all who tried to challenge me in Risky's fantasy league!

50 points ahead of FES in 2nd place and ranked 257 out of 118,000 entrants in the whole competition.

We all agreed to chip in a fiver to the winner yeah??

My admin fee was £10 as well

by **RDW** Thu 05 Nov 2015, 10:07 am

The big scary baldy himself - Al Strokosh - has announced his retirement from international rugby.

by **George Carlin** Thu 05 Nov 2015, 10:24 am

jimbopip wrote:Of course....Archibald Alzheimer, then GC's irascible Uncle Doogie.

Can't think of any other deserving candidates.

Wish we had an emoticon of an old trout on a hook.

by nickj Thu 05 Nov 2015, 10:39 am

Bless him. I know he wasn't on many, if any, of our lists for the world cup, but he was a cracking wrecking ball of a 6 in his prime.

by **RDW** Thu 05 Nov 2015, 10:43 am

Absolutely. The thing is, his prime was at least 5 years ago!

by **George Carlin** Thu 05 Nov 2015, 10:48 am

Just goes to show you don't need to be particularly big or especially skilful to be international rugby player. You just need to look absolutely mental.

Well done Al. Happy retirement.

by funnyExiledScot Thu 05 Nov 2015, 10:57 am

I always rated Strokosch in his prime. A proper specialist 6 who tackled hard for the full 80 minutes, hit the rucks with reckless abandon and carried with menace. Not as good as Jason White, but probably on a par with Kelly Brown in his pomp.

A few limitations: not particularly quick for a modern back row forward, didn't offer a lineout option and his hands let him down at times.

I don't blame him for getting picked by Johnson or Cotter over the last couple of years. He was past his best and not playing club rugby at an appropriate level to translate to international rugby. Really bad judgement from Johnson and Cotter, but not his fault. If Cotter picked me for the 6 Nations I'd join the squad!

Happy retirement. A career as a bouncer beckons. I certainly wouldn't approach those doors wearing trainers or a little worse for wear!

by R!skysports Thu 05 Nov 2015, 11:24 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:I always rated Strokosch in his prime. A proper specialist 6 who tackled hard for the full 80 minutes, hit the rucks with reckless abandon and carried with menace. Not as good as Jason White, but probably on a par with Kelly Brown in his pomp.

A few limitations: not particularly quick for a modern back row forward, didn't offer a lineout option and his hands let him down at times.

I don't blame him for getting picked by Johnson or Cotter over the last couple of years. He was past his best and not playing club rugby at an appropriate level to translate to international rugby. Really bad judgement from Johnson and Cotter, but not his fault. If Cotter picked me for the 6 Nations I'd join the squad!

Happy retirement. A career as a bouncer beckons. I certainly wouldn't approach those doors wearing trainers or a little worse for wear!

You have trainers? I thought you only had them for your horses?

by funnyExiledScot Thu 05 Nov 2015, 11:48 am

Riskysports wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I always rated Strokosch in his prime. A proper specialist 6 who tackled hard for the full 80 minutes, hit the rucks with reckless abandon and carried with menace. Not as good as Jason White, but probably on a par with Kelly Brown in his pomp.

A few limitations: not particularly quick for a modern back row forward, didn't offer a lineout option and his hands let him down at times.

I don't blame him for getting picked by Johnson or Cotter over the last couple of years. He was past his best and not playing club rugby at an appropriate level to translate to international rugby. Really bad judgement from Johnson and Cotter, but not his fault. If Cotter picked me for the 6 Nations I'd join the squad!

Happy retirement. A career as a bouncer beckons. I certainly wouldn't approach those doors wearing trainers or a little worse for wear!

You have trainers? I thought you only had them for your horses?

Well when I say trainers, I really mean any shoes acquired on the High Street.

by IanBru Thu 05 Nov 2015, 12:22 pm

You know, it's not easy accepting that you'll never play for Scotland. So when I see these kids who are younger than my hiking boots pulling on the dark blue, I've had to learn to deal with it.

What's rather more difficult is occupying the same forum as someone like GLove, who seems to have talent pouring from every bodily orifice. Makes me a bit sick, to be honest. I'm sure GLove won't mind me sharing this compilation of his vines over the RWC:

Well done GLove!! That sums up better than anything else the brutal and wonderful emotional roller-coaster of being a Scotland supporter! thumbsup

by funnyExiledScot Thu 05 Nov 2015, 12:29 pm

That is actually excellent!

by **George Carlin** Thu 05 Nov 2015, 12:33 pm

The 'citing officer' wheel is the best one.

by R!skysports Thu 05 Nov 2015, 12:35 pm

That GLove is over rated :-)

by eirebilly Thu 05 Nov 2015, 12:48 pm

I have been watching Gloves videos for the whole tournament and I have say that they are excellent. Well done to him for originality and humour clap

by Tattie Scones RRN Thu 05 Nov 2015, 2:30 pm

Brilliant!!!

Well done Glove!

by jimbopip Thu 05 Nov 2015, 5:40 pm

Glove, brilliant. Can I book you to do a montage for my cremation? Leave them laughing has always been the family motto, in Latin obviously.

by GLove39 Thu 05 Nov 2015, 11:45 pm

Dawww you guys!
Scotland 6N lookahead - Page 5 Bc7

by Shifty Fri 06 Nov 2015, 10:42 am

I loved that video, well done to whomever made it Hug

by tigertattie Sat 07 Nov 2015, 6:32 pm

Few points of note!

1: bloody funny video. Can the SRU please employ mr Love as their promotional video creator! Much better than having the team just running through hills!
2: Still feel physically sick when I see mention of Joubert and that game. Still say we'd have beaten the Pumas in the semi
3: is Mr Love Rob Harley's long lost brother?

by GLove39 Tue 10 Nov 2015, 11:29 pm

tigertattie wrote:Few points of note!

1: bloody funny video. Can the SRU please employ mr Love as their promotional video creator! Much better than having the team just running through hills!
2: Still feel physically sick when I see mention of Joubert and that game. Still say we'd have beaten the Pumas in the semi
3: is Mr Love Rob Harley's long lost brother?

Cheers Tattie!

1. We've actually had dealings in the past. Did a couple of wee videos for them a few years back to promote the Glasgow 7's. As you can tell they were a unprecedented success...
2. Totally agree, those last few minutes have replaced the ending of Wales 2010 as the reason I sometimes wake in the night in a cold sweat. Although wish you hadn't mentioned THAT name. Perhaps the Mods could add it to the swear filter?
3. That's racist.

by **RDW** Wed 11 Nov 2015, 7:23 am

GLove39 wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Few points of note!

1: bloody funny video. Can the SRU please employ mr Love as their promotional video creator! Much better than having the team just running through hills!
2: Still feel physically sick when I see mention of Joubert and that game. Still say we'd have beaten the Pumas in the semi
3: is Mr Love Rob Harley's long lost brother?
3. That's racist.

I thought it was this guy?

Scotland 6N lookahead - Page 5 0U3o20Ch

by **George Carlin** Wed 11 Nov 2015, 9:20 am

I've always thought that this was the better comparison:
Scotland 6N lookahead - Page 5 Glove210

Lucky Charms

by RuggerRadge2611 Wed 11 Nov 2015, 10:26 am

George Carlin wrote:I've always thought that this was the better comparison:

Lucky Charms

Been away for a couple of weeks, I presume I wasn't missed...

by **RDW** Wed 11 Nov 2015, 12:26 pm

So Stuart Lancaster has quit, the squad is in disarray with talk of lack of trust and player disharmony - will this be a good thing or a bad thing for Scotland given we are next to play England?

On one hand it could completely galvanise England - new coach, new team, a chance to release a lot of frustration.

On the other hand they could be a complete shambles.

I'm hoping for our sake it is the latter!

by funnyExiledScot Wed 11 Nov 2015, 1:54 pm

I hope the Scotland team doesn't get too distracted by the shambles at England come the 6 Nations. We're entering a phase whereby we should just concentrate on our own game, rather than seeking to simply negate and counter the opposition by chopping and changing our approach.

England were considerably stronger than Scotland at the last 6 Nations, and I don't think a whole lot has changed just because of the World Cup.

If you're picking a joint side, I still think the majority would be English players. Nel, J Gray and Hardie might have a good case, but that's probably it. We'll still be underdogs for this one, I just hope we play the game that suits us. Let's not worry too much about the shambles south of the Wall.

by **RDW** Wed 11 Nov 2015, 2:14 pm

I wasn’t meaning what the Scotland team should focus on, but what they may end up facing purely from a discussion point of view – of course their preparation isn’t going to be dictated by what kind of state the England team will find themselves in.

by **George Carlin** Wed 11 Nov 2015, 2:15 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:I hope the Scotland team doesn't get too distracted by the shambles at England come the 6 Nations. We're entering a phase whereby we should just concentrate on our own game, rather than seeking to simply negate and counter the opposition by chopping and changing our approach.

England were considerably stronger than Scotland at the last 6 Nations, and I don't think a whole lot has changed just because of the World Cup.

If you're picking a joint side, I still think the majority would be English players. Nel, J Gray and Hardie might have a good case, but that's probably it. We'll still be underdogs for this one, I just hope we play the game that suits us. Let's not worry too much about the shambles south of the Wall.

It's a tough one. I think that things did change because of the World Cup, but that does not mean that we aren't starting from scratch again with NH competition. We are notorious for not carrying momentum forward from one set of international matches to another.

I think that the World Cup showed Scotland largely what its best 23 is, which is a big advantage over England (or any team with selection problems), it provided confidence that no NH side were streets ahead of us in terms of ability and it also saw a lot of players who were sporting large question marks about their ability step up to the plate. Lots of Scotland players were interviewed saying that the mood in camp was always very good and they cannot wait to get together again in the spring for the 6 Nations.

So I think that things have changed well for Scotland rather than badly for England. I am very, very wary though. All England needs is a good coach (and they can afford to get one), some positive press conferences and a bunch of new players desperate to impress and its brown trousers time in Murrayfield again this year.

by R!skysports Wed 11 Nov 2015, 3:05 pm

George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I hope the Scotland team doesn't get too distracted by the shambles at England come the 6 Nations. We're entering a phase whereby we should just concentrate on our own game, rather than seeking to simply negate and counter the opposition by chopping and changing our approach.

England were considerably stronger than Scotland at the last 6 Nations, and I don't think a whole lot has changed just because of the World Cup.

If you're picking a joint side, I still think the majority would be English players. Nel, J Gray and Hardie might have a good case, but that's probably it. We'll still be underdogs for this one, I just hope we play the game that suits us. Let's not worry too much about the shambles south of the Wall.
It's a tough one. I think that things did change because of the World Cup, but that does not mean that we aren't starting from scratch again with NH competition. We are notorious for not carrying momentum forward from one set of international matches to another.

I think that the World Cup showed Scotland largely what its best 23 is, which is a big advantage over England (or any team with selection problems), it provided confidence that no NH side were streets ahead of us in terms of ability and it also saw a lot of players who were sporting large question marks about their ability step up to the plate. Lots of Scotland players were interviewed saying that the mood in camp was always very good and they cannot wait to get together again in the spring for the 6 Nations.

So I think that things have changed well for Scotland rather than badly for England. I am very, very wary though. All England needs is a good coach (and they can afford to get one), some positive press conferences and a bunch of new players desperate to impress and its brown trousers time in Murrayfield again this year.

Don't Glove an idea

FARTFACE

by **George Carlin** Wed 11 Nov 2015, 3:19 pm

Riskysports wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I hope the Scotland team doesn't get too distracted by the shambles at England come the 6 Nations. We're entering a phase whereby we should just concentrate on our own game, rather than seeking to simply negate and counter the opposition by chopping and changing our approach.

England were considerably stronger than Scotland at the last 6 Nations, and I don't think a whole lot has changed just because of the World Cup.

If you're picking a joint side, I still think the majority would be English players. Nel, J Gray and Hardie might have a good case, but that's probably it. We'll still be underdogs for this one, I just hope we play the game that suits us. Let's not worry too much about the shambles south of the Wall.
It's a tough one. I think that things did change because of the World Cup, but that does not mean that we aren't starting from scratch again with NH competition. We are notorious for not carrying momentum forward from one set of international matches to another.

I think that the World Cup showed Scotland largely what its best 23 is, which is a big advantage over England (or any team with selection problems), it provided confidence that no NH side were streets ahead of us in terms of ability and it also saw a lot of players who were sporting large question marks about their ability step up to the plate. Lots of Scotland players were interviewed saying that the mood in camp was always very good and they cannot wait to get together again in the spring for the 6 Nations.

So I think that things have changed well for Scotland rather than badly for England. I am very, very wary though. All England needs is a good coach (and they can afford to get one), some positive press conferences and a bunch of new players desperate to impress and its brown trousers time in Murrayfield again this year.

Don't Glove an idea

FARTFACE

by EWT Spoons Wed 11 Nov 2015, 4:00 pm

I think a new coach etc is bad for us. At least there was a spot of alleged chaos during lancaster’s reign. Now they are going to get a new coach, who the players will want to impress. They’ll likely get one who is pretty competent and in theory should demand the respect of the players.

Lancaster being in situ for at least a bit longer would have helped. Can only hope they ‘do an sru’ and appoint someone who will join them a year or two down the line.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 11 Nov 2015, 4:42 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:I wasn’t meaning what the Scotland team should focus on, but what they may end up facing purely from a discussion point of view – of course their preparation isn’t going to be dictated by what kind of state the England team will find themselves in.

I don't think it's obvious. For years we have chopped and changed to counter the opposition. Picking locks at 6 to counter a "big pack", loads of number 8s because the opposition "play above the ground" etc. etc. Some of these calls are pretty recent as well.

I really want Cotter and Scotland to focus on themselves, and just pick the players and style of play that makes us the best side we possibly can be. Less of the "tactical" selections.

by 123456789 Thu 12 Nov 2015, 8:55 pm

Apparently Craig Joubert is the touch judge for the Ireland game in the six nations, if he makes a bad call I imagine Greig will find him and kill him.

by GLove39 Fri 13 Nov 2015, 12:23 am

123456789 wrote:Apparently Craig Joubert is the touch judge for the Ireland game in the six nations, if he makes a bad call I imagine Greig will find him and kill him.

Yep Craig Jobbie is also taking charge of England - Wales. Which just goes to prove that a criminal always returns to the scene of the crime...

by eirebilly Fri 13 Nov 2015, 6:15 am

The one thing I have admired about Cotter's approach with Scotland was his ability to get Scotland playing their own game and not that of countering every opposition. This will improve with time and I believe that Scotland will perform very well under him in years to come.

by funnyExiledScot Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:36 am

eirebilly wrote:The one thing I have admired about Cotter's approach with Scotland was his ability to get Scotland playing their own game and not that of countering every opposition. This will improve with time and I believe that Scotland will perform very well under him in years to come.

Agree 100%. It was hugely refreshing seeing players like Bennett and Hogg with the confidence to play what was in front of them.

by eirebilly Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:45 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
eirebilly wrote:The one thing I have admired about Cotter's approach with Scotland was his ability to get Scotland playing their own game and not that of countering every opposition. This will improve with time and I believe that Scotland will perform very well under him in years to come.

Agree 100%. It was hugely refreshing seeing players like Bennett and Hogg with the confidence to play what was in front of them.

Think that it will take some time for the rhythm and confidence to be optimum but the signs are already there of this directional change under Cotter.

by Nematode Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:39 pm

After the recent few European games, will VC have a selection dilema?

1. Ruairdh Jackson - how he wasn't MoM against Toulon can only be explained by the biased commentators... Thought he was superb in his distribution and attack, also pretty solid in defence and some of his kicks were excellent. At least deserves the bench spot. After that performance though, I reckon Russell needs to play consistently well as Jackson has hit a new level of form.

2. Duncan Taylor - just a solid player. Nothing flashy, but he is getting picked regularly for a side that is getting a bp win over Ulster away. I still think our best 12/13 is Dunbar/Bennett, however, Taylor is perhaps on a par with Horne and Scott overall?

Just a general thought, should we be less reluctant to let our best talent go abroad? Jackson really was at a different level against Toulon to when he was at Glasgow and Richie Gray is signing a contract with Toulouse now. How long they will get starting rugby is questionable as is how much we benefit from players playing alongside each other for Gla/Edi, but they are certainly kicking on.

I suppose the reverse is true of Kieran Low (injured?) playing frequently for Irish but not for Glasgow.

by **George Carlin** Tue 24 Nov 2015, 6:38 am

Richie Gray is signing a contract with Toulouse now.

Where was this reported, Mr Tode? Linky?

by alive555 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 7:32 am

George Carlin wrote:
Richie Gray is signing a contract with Toulouse now.

Where was this reported, Mr Tode? Linky?

https://twitter.com/lequipe/status/668173191571894272

by EWT Spoons Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:05 am

alive555 wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
Richie Gray is signing a contract with Toulouse now.

Where was this reported, Mr Tode? Linky?

https://twitter.com/lequipe/status/668173191571894272

here too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/34898620

by Tattie Scones RRN Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:11 am

Nematode wrote:After the recent few European games, will VC have a selection dilema?

1. Ruairdh Jackson - how he wasn't MoM against Toulon can only be explained by the biased commentators... Thought he was superb in his distribution and attack, also pretty solid in defence and some of his kicks were excellent. At least deserves the bench spot. After that performance though, I reckon Russell needs to play consistently well as Jackson has hit a new level of form.

2. Duncan Taylor - just a solid player. Nothing flashy, but he is getting picked regularly for a side that is getting a bp win over Ulster away. I still think our best 12/13 is Dunbar/Bennett, however, Taylor is perhaps on a par with Horne and Scott overall?

Just a general thought, should we be less reluctant to let our best talent go abroad? Jackson really was at a different level against Toulon to when he was at Glasgow and Richie Gray is signing a contract with Toulouse now. How long they will get starting rugby is questionable as is how much we benefit from players playing alongside each other for Gla/Edi, but they are certainly kicking on.

I suppose the reverse is true of Kieran Low (injured?) playing frequently for Irish but not for Glasgow.

Despite being injured pretty much straight away, it appears the move for Jackson has done him the world of good.

As I have stated on another thread, we should only keep our talent if they have somewhere to play. At present, with only two teams, they don't.

by funnyExiledScot Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:27 pm

Gray to Toulouse is interesting. I had wondered whether Glasgow would tempt him back to replace Naka at the end of the season, but there's probably a few more ££££££££££ on offer at Toulouse.

by Nematode Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:27 pm

I'd prefer Nakarawa to Gray. I feel losing Nakarawa on top of Matawalu, DTH and Maitland might just be too much for Glasgow to cope with.

by yappysnap Sat 28 Nov 2015, 10:38 pm

Off the back of the last three weeks games you could do a lot worse then start Ruridh Jackson, he's been one of the best all round fly halves in Europe and has expertly steered Wasps to some big wins.

A lot more composed then Russell imo. And he's missed 1 kick in about 20.

by **RDW** Sat 28 Nov 2015, 11:17 pm

I didn't see the game but he missed 3 out of 5 kicks today and was subbed off after 50 minutes!

by yappysnap Sat 28 Nov 2015, 11:31 pm

Yea so I may have posted 30 mins in...

To be fair his misses were out wide, and the substitution was more because the team weren't working and he needed a rest, Haskell who is captain and in the running for MoM came off at 55 mins btw

by funnyExiledScot Mon 30 Nov 2015, 3:28 pm

Scotland don't need Jackson for his kicking anyway, we have Laidlaw for that. We need him for his creativity, and he's pretty handy in that regard.

by EWT Spoons Tue 01 Dec 2015, 1:05 pm

Yeah I wouldn't risk Jackson kicking. I realise he's improved but when it goes wrong for him, it used to effect his whole game.

He's got to be in with a shout of at least backup 10 for Scotland

by yappysnap Tue 01 Dec 2015, 1:19 pm

I'd start him tbh

by **RDW** Tue 01 Dec 2015, 1:20 pm

Unless Russell's form improves he may be going into the 6N as the form 10!

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