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Vienna, Stockholm, Basel, Valencia, Moscow (and other 'low-level' events)
First topic message reminder :
Vienna - Ferrer v Johnson - Johnson playing pretty well and can win this one.
Stockholm - Berdych v Sock - just started.
Basel - Qualifying rounds in progress.
Valencia - Qualifying rounds in progress.
Moscow - Cilic v Bautista-Agut - BA can take a set off Cilic.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/
Vienna - Ferrer v Johnson - Johnson playing pretty well and can win this one.
Stockholm - Berdych v Sock - just started.
Basel - Qualifying rounds in progress.
Valencia - Qualifying rounds in progress.
Moscow - Cilic v Bautista-Agut - BA can take a set off Cilic.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/
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So we going into 3 sets
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No straight sets win for Fed. Rafa fans must be liking Fed's humiliation
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No panic guys, break is coming, fast.
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His whole body language against Rafa is different
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It's on all Roger, he plays well he wins games with ease if he dips Rafa wins with ease
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Have to say I'm impressed with Rafa, he really is determined to get back to the very top
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Fed breaks, now serve madafakaaaaa
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Yessssssss Fed winsssss, like it's a surprise
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Best play of the year by Nadal (Fleming) and I agree.
Great match, some super play old style from both.
Great match, some super play old style from both.
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Gifted 2nd set.
Why are you so nice to him, Roger?
Allez
Why are you so nice to him, Roger?
Allez
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Happy ending in the end but it did not look too good early in the third. Fed was helped a bit by a poor service game from Rafa.
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Well done Fed. Looked incredibly nervous and made hard work of it but got it done. Probably Rafa's best display of the season.
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WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Good match. Congrats to Federer.
Well played Nadal.
Well played Nadal.
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And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
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Oops, got it wrong. f*** the irrelevant h2h. The guy with the favourable h-2-d actually needs to have enough current form to back it up. I didn't expect Roger to play like he's 29 and Rafa 34.
Wow what a win!
Of course, Nadal should still be very proud he made it to an in-door HC final. Very impressive thus far, well done and better luck in Paris.
Wow what a win!
Of course, Nadal should still be very proud he made it to an in-door HC final. Very impressive thus far, well done and better luck in Paris.
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about right. Nadal did better than i thought he could at this stage. Wish it felt like a bigger occasion, or a bigger thing
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it speaks a lot of the h2h, that given feds indoor record, both against Nadal and in general, and recent form that many of us thought this might be up in the air. Was more up in the air than it realy should have been
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Good match.
Both players showed spells of what makes them so special, but I thought both also showed what they are missing in comparison to their peak levels.
I'm pleased for Fed to get a victory over the old foe but I think Rafa will be pleased with his improving level.
Both players showed spells of what makes them so special, but I thought both also showed what they are missing in comparison to their peak levels.
I'm pleased for Fed to get a victory over the old foe but I think Rafa will be pleased with his improving level.
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Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
You don't like him much do you?
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Oh enough! Both of you... every time, every single time, the match isnt all that meaningful, dont start another passive aggressive fight
Anyway my start to Sundays entertainment done... time for Spectre
Anyway my start to Sundays entertainment done... time for Spectre
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HM Murdock wrote:Good match.
Both players showed spells of what makes them so special, but I thought both also showed what they are missing in comparison to their peak levels.
I'm pleased for Fed to get a victory over the old foe but I think Rafa will be pleased with his improving level.
Some great play from both at times but neither of them looked like potential future slam winners. The difference, I think, is that Fed is very unlikely to look like that again, whereas it's possible Rafa will get back to that level.
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temporary21 wrote:Oh enough! Both of you... every time, every single time, the match isnt all that meaningful, dont start another passive aggressive fight
I'm a fan of sarcasm, so don't have a problem with H-N using it. I'd rather Rafa had won, keeping Murray at No. 2 - I'm very much hoping Murray gets back to No. 2 for the AO seeding.
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Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
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Shows what trouble nadal is for federer, nadal has always struggled indoors and even despite very poor form this year he very nearly beat fed on his home court. Would have expected fed to win much more comfortably. Would have been a killer for fed to lose that one, he must be relieved
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JuliusHMarx wrote:Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
You don't like him much do you?
I don't like the hype that surrounds him ...you would have thought he had just scraped a win past Novak.. instead of Nadal who according to what has been said about him on here should have received two bagels.
Its not him.. its his fans he holds Rafa in higher regard
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HM Murdock wrote:Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
You can do better than that Murdock.. cant you get lower than that
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Nadal played well, but Federer deserved to win. He's done well against Nadal on indoor hard throughout his career, but was really tested today.
Nadal made a few UEs in crucial points in the third set, but apart from that he'll be very pleased.
Nadal made a few UEs in crucial points in the third set, but apart from that he'll be very pleased.
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But it was the Rafa fans who reckoned Fed was going to walk it. Fed fans seemed to think Rafa could win it.
In the end Rafa played one of, if not his best match of the year, so should be pretty pleased with his week overall.
In the end Rafa played one of, if not his best match of the year, so should be pretty pleased with his week overall.
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To the maths. Feds no 2 again, how much by? When is the seeding for the 02 taken? Does it come down to Paris for that still? If so I, or someone else might have to crunch the scenarios.
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Worst defeat of Nadal's declining career.
Even Seppi beat this version of Fed
Even Seppi beat this version of Fed
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Lets not mention Tommy Robredo either
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I still don't know what to make of Rafa.JuliusHMarx wrote:HM Murdock wrote:Good match.
Both players showed spells of what makes them so special, but I thought both also showed what they are missing in comparison to their peak levels.
I'm pleased for Fed to get a victory over the old foe but I think Rafa will be pleased with his improving level.
Some great play from both at times but neither of them looked like potential future slam winners. The difference, I think, is that Fed is very unlikely to look like that again, whereas it's possible Rafa will get back to that level.
I thought at the end of the 2nd and the start of 3rd, he looked like his old self. His forehand was hammering and he was finding great angles in his passing shots.
But then it ebbed away for no obvious reason.
So, causes for optimism but still causes for concern.
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HM Murdock wrote:Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
Hahaha, I've always liked your illustrated AND honest post, HMM.
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HMM, you deserve e medal for being funny this year
Still, how the hell did you find this Japanese Bitter, instead of Tetley's, you know more local variety.
Still, how the hell did you find this Japanese Bitter, instead of Tetley's, you know more local variety.
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Hey Matchpoint, how's life treating you in Shangri-La
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Yes the crowd are to blame for Rafito's defeat; why weren't they cheering for Nadal like me.Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
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And Nadal loses to a guy shortly eligible for the Seniors tour.Haddie-nuff wrote:And Roger manages to struggle to beat an off form Nadal assisted by the crowd...wow well done
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Nadal played quite well so no reason to get so butthurt people
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Jamie Murray lost in the doubles final, unfortunately.
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temporary21 wrote:To the maths. Feds no 2 again, how much by? When is the seeding for the 02 taken? Does it come down to Paris for that still? If so I, or someone else might have to crunch the scenarios.
Murray is 620 points clear in the race, so Fed needs to win Paris to remain number 2 for the WTF (he faces Murray in the SF so will gain at least 640 points in that scenario). I assume seeding isn't done until the following week.
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It sounds like it was a close encounter.
I have to say had Federer lost, I would've recommended his GOAThood be revoked!
Seems like a huge achievement for Federer to get a win over Nadal. 3 and half years in the making.
the WTF will be very interesting.
I have to say had Federer lost, I would've recommended his GOAThood be revoked!
Seems like a huge achievement for Federer to get a win over Nadal. 3 and half years in the making.
the WTF will be very interesting.
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It is rather unfortunate to see bickering mar this.
It is good to see Nadal in a Fast(er) HC final, bodes well for O2.
It is good to see Federer can win Finals (instead of losing in first round to journeymen) .
It is good to see both the seniors teach the young guns some lessons (yeh - Dimi, Sock - are you listening... - but I like Goffin).
It is good to see Nadal in a Fast(er) HC final, bodes well for O2.
It is good to see Federer can win Finals (instead of losing in first round to journeymen) .
It is good to see both the seniors teach the young guns some lessons (yeh - Dimi, Sock - are you listening... - but I like Goffin).
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Expected though. In any case fed being 2 for wtf would be very handy. Else we risk a djoko fed nafal group of death... I think
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temporary21 wrote:Expected though. In any case fed being 2 for wtf would be very handy. Else we risk a djoko fed nafal group of death... I think
I quite like the idea of that! C'mon Andy!
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Top priority for me is David Ferrer in Feds group.
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Good thanks.
So glad Roger's serve was reliable again today. I grossly underestimated the effectiveness of his new game, what with the new racket, net-rushing, SABR etc. Can he repeat today vs Nadal? Can't wait for their next meeting, anywhere. Cheers!
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JuliusHMarx wrote:temporary21 wrote:Expected though. In any case fed being 2 for wtf would be very handy. Else we risk a djoko fed nafal group of death... I think
I quite like the idea of that! C'mon Andy!
JHM, you really aged 60?
Sorry for all the grievances I've caused you here, then again you're pretty modern for a grand dad
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