The Jeff - Round 3

by HongKongCherry Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

As LT is away I'll post the latest version, but I won't provide anywhere near the level of detail that he does, but at least it gives us the option to discuss the games.

Saturday 31st
Sarries (1st) v Irish (12th) 1pm
Bath (8th) v Quins (6th) 1.30pm
Glaws (5th) v Wuss (10th) 2pm

Sunday 1st November
Falcons (11th) v Chiefs (3rd) 1pm BT
Sale (9th) v Saints (4th) 2.30pm
Tigers (2nd) v Wasps (7th) 3.15pm BT

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:27 am

Perhaps he needs to adopt the Wallace hairstyle P4 if he wishes to be more visible

Run

by Poorfour Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:31 am

Maybe so... Now that Wallace seems to be adopting Chabal's hairstyle, his own one is available for someone else to use..

by little_badger Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:57 pm

Is there any streams available for the games? Really want to watch Bath v Quins

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:03 pm

little_badger wrote:Is there any streams available for the games? Really want to watch Bath v Quins

If you have a Bet365 account with a small deposit in it

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:04 pm

As with the game in us, Irish demonstrating a fantastic driving maul - just a touch greedy ignoring the ref when he screams use it - after moving about 40m forward

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:18 pm

Allianz park looking about 2/3rds full. Will be disappointing for Wray and co

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:19 pm

And dreadful call by ref Garner. Itoje obviously (to anyone who has been to specsavers recently) fails to release before playing Skivington, yet gets the penalty for holding on.

Shocking kick though from in front of the posts by Farrell.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:24 pm

Second miss, much harder though, from Farrell.

Penalty again for holding on - Sarries have sussed the ref quite quickly. Have to say though that so far in AP refs seem to be allowing defenders to get away with a lot when they compete for the ball. Very few defenders supporting their own weight or releasing the player first in all games I have seen.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:27 pm

Linouts have been really poor for LI - not helped by a mobile drumming duo who were stood 2m away banging like crazy.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:28 pm

TRY for LI.

Tikoirotuma comes off his wing and blasts through two shoddy tackles.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:38 pm

After some bright attacking play from both sides, Evans gives the visitors the lead at the Rec

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:42 pm

LondonTiger wrote:And dreadful call by ref Garner. Itoje obviously (to anyone who has been to specsavers recently) fails to release before playing Skivington, yet gets the penalty for holding on.

Shocking kick though from in front of the posts by Farrell.

'Bigger' teams getting the benefit again maybe? Smile

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:49 pm

Can't believe there's no AP on the TV today

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:53 pm

First appearance of the smug permatanned one.

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:56 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Can't believe there's no AP on the TV today

I was thinking the same - especially as they are all timed to finish before the RWC final starts ...

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:57 pm

Bath are all over the Quins scrum atm, but keep blowing opportunities to score.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:58 pm

I see that Sky are showing Australia v NZ shoretly - a repeat of the RC match. Sneaky.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:02 pm

Bath suffer white line fever again, having pinched another Quins lineout and making excellent ground.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:09 pm

Bath finally score the try after pretty much 20 minutes of try line pressure.

First time they ran the ball down Visser's channel I think Very Happy

And ford converts from the right touch line to maintain a 100% kicking success rate in AP this season.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:34 pm

Goode has just gone over for Saracens second try.

Ashton found himself in a similar position but shipped the pass too early and ended up firing it into touch. Goode was much more composed, holding his defender, and then dummying before going on to score.

Every time I notice Goode in a club game, he's usually doing something nice. Wish I had the confidence that he could do the same regularly at Test level.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:37 pm

Just when Sarries had opened up an eleven point lead, Irish score a converted try through a driving maul. 18-14 now

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:43 pm

If he had gas, Goode would be a top FB. He's just so bloody slow

by ChequeredJersey Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:48 pm

Quins getting some good attack in now, good try by Care then a pen then a squandered opportunity

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:52 pm

Sounds like the dishing out and not dishing out of cards in Sarries v LI is showing more inconsistencies again - favouring the 'bigger' sides - not seen it myself but that's what I'm hearing

by **Ozzy3213** Sat Oct 31, 2015 2:55 pm

Absolutely gutted at that. Much improved from last week and I reckon we deserved something from that game.

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:02 pm

What about the cards/no cards Ozzy - didn't see the match but sounds like Tiks was harsh and Burger (and possibly Ijole) lucky to get away without seeing yellow?

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:05 pm

LI deserved something. Sarries pulled away during YC period. For me it was a clear cut YC being a high clothes linbe that in days gone by would have been red.

However I reckon I saw punches thrown by two Sarries in the aftermath and pushing and shoving from all sides. Sarries should also have seen Yellow and could have been red (if eithe rpunch landed - not sure they did). LI could have had more players binned for the melee too though.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:06 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:If he had gas, Goode would be a top FB. He's just so bloody slow

His tackling is feeble to, higjlighted by a minor road bump style in Tiks try.

by **Ozzy3213** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:08 pm

That's my issue LT. Consistency. If Tiks is a yellow, then Itoje has to go for slamming our players head into the ground in his charge down follow through. Points scored when we were down to 14 cost us getting anything from the game. Tough to take.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:10 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:That's my issue LT. Consistency. If Tiks is a yellow, then Itoje has to go for slamming our players head into the ground in his charge down follow through. Points scored when we were down to 14 cost us getting anything from the game. Tough to take.

Di not see Itoje's challenge. Would be disappointed if anyone tries to claim Tiks did not deserve yellow though.

Maitland seemed to struggle defensively I thought - mainly positioning.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:13 pm

HMM, this crusade on no arms tackles is getting ridiculous. Eastmond binned for what seems rather innocuous

Should mean the "WeHaveNotCheated" will lose. Mr SmugPermedPermaTan will not be happy.

Perhaps lawyers could be called and the referee brought to order?

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:16 pm

"Bath's humiliation almost complete" says the commentator.

I like the way Mike Ford is developing the Bath team, but this is indeed a humiliation

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:16 pm

LT did you see Burger apparently shoulder charge an LI player in the soft dangly bits off the ball? If correctly described shows more inconsistency re Eastmond above?

by **Rugby Fan** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:17 pm

Gloucester 19 Worcester 22 on the BBC live score at the moment (15:17). Dunno how that game clock stands.

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:18 pm

Sounds like Warriors are doing well again ... worrying for LI and Falcons ...

by nathan Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:18 pm

57 minutes gone

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:23 pm

Try to Glaws 24:22

by ChequeredJersey Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:25 pm

LondonTiger wrote:HMM, this crusade on no arms tackles is getting ridiculous. Eastmond binned for what seems rather innocuous

Should mean the "WeHaveNotCheated" will lose. Mr SmugPermedPermaTan will not be happy.

Perhaps lawyers could be called and the referee brought to order?

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Agree, was soft

by ChequeredJersey Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:27 pm

Happy with that ESP the second half

by ChequeredJersey Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:28 pm

Bad luck Bath

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:29 pm

Heaf wrote:LT did you see Burger apparently shoulder charge an LI player in the soft dangly bits off the ball? If correctly described shows more inconsistency re Eastmond above?

Didn't. sorry. Trying to watch 3 games at one point Very Happy

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:31 pm

Ref denies May the TBP try for a forward pass - that was not forward. Ref called it live - but having seen replay bet he goes to TMO next time.

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:34 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
Heaf wrote:LT did you see Burger apparently shoulder charge an LI player in the soft dangly bits off the ball? If correctly described shows more inconsistency re Eastmond above?

Didn't. sorry. Trying to watch 3 games at one point

No worries Smile

from what I'm hearing the Tiks yellow was fair enough but Sarries got away with 3 or 4 that should have been yellow as well including Burger's shoulder charge off the ball.

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:35 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Ref denies May the TBP try for a forward pass - that was not forward. Ref called it live - but having seen replay bet he goes to TMO next time.

Doesn't get any better does it ...

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:41 pm

Wuss just conceded 3 penalties at a 5m scrum and given a warning. Not one has moved though, so YC I guess if next goes down.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:42 pm

And YC duly given. To the TH, but could have been the BS who slipped his binding and was trying to bind on Morgan

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:43 pm

Wuss take it to uncontested scrums.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:44 pm

And steal the lineout.

Just seems wrong to me.

by Heaf Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:46 pm

Where are their replacement props? Is the rule they don't have to lose another player as it's uncontested due to a card? Never quite kept up with that reg.

by **LondonTiger** Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:49 pm

Heaf wrote:Where are their replacement props? Is the rule they don't have to lose another player as it's uncontested due to a card? Never quite kept up with that reg.

Replacement TH was withdrawn with an injury, they said spare LH could not cover.

I did think they had said in those circumstances that they should lose another player - but never seemed to happen. So in the end just a 2pt win for Glaws. Wuss have real spirit - but really deserved the TBP win, being denied first by a poor reffing error, then by the uncontested scrums. That last penalty which earnt the YC was going backwards pretty quickly so could have been a PT.

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