Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
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Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
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Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais
Friday 13 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Welford Road, Leicester
Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports
Referee John Lacey (Ireland)
Touch Judge 1 David Wilkinson (Ireland)
Touch Judge 2 Olly Hodges (Ireland)
Fourth Official Ian Tempest (England)
TMO Simon McDowell (Ireland)
Citing Commissioner Maurizio Vancini (Italy)
A. Head to Head
8 Played 8
4 Wins 4
4 Losses 4
0 Draws 0
164 Points 199
B. Form
01 Apr 2007
Leicester Tigers 21 - 20 Stade Francais
15 Jan 2006
Leicester Tigers 29 - 22 Stade Francais
29 Oct 2005
Stade Francais 12 - 6 Leicester Tigers
30 Jan 2004
Leicester Tigers 13 - 26 Stade Francais
06 Dec 2003
Stade Francais 26 - 15 Leicester Tigers
C. Teams
Leicester Tigers
15 Matthew Tait (capt)
14 Adam Thompstone
13 Peter Betham
12 Matt Smith
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Owen Williams
9 Ben Youngs
1 Marcos Ayerza
2 Tom Youngs
3 Dan Cole
4 Mike Williams
5 Michael Fitzgerald
6 Tom Croft
7 Brendon O'Connor
8 Lachlan McCaffrey
16 Leonardo Ghiraldini
17 Matias Aguero
18 Fraser Balmain
19 Dom Barrow
20 Jordan Crane
21 Sam Harrison
22 Seremaia Bai
23 Telusa Veainu
Stade Francais
15 Hugo Bonneval
14 Julien Arias
13 Paul Williams
12 Herman Meyer Bosman
11 Jérémy Sinzelle
10 Morné Steyn
9 Julien Dupuy
1 Zak Taulafo
2 Laurent Panis
3 Adrien Oleon
4 Paul Gabrillagues
5 Pascal Papé
6 Patrick Sio
7 Sylvain Nicolas
8 Sergio Parisse (capt)
16 Dany Priso
17 Zurabi Zhvania
18 Rabah Slimani
19 Alexandre Flanquart
20 Jonathan Ross
21 Julien Tomas
22 Waisea Vuidarvuwalu
23 Josaia Raisuqe
Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais
Friday 13 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Welford Road, Leicester
Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports
Referee John Lacey (Ireland)
Touch Judge 1 David Wilkinson (Ireland)
Touch Judge 2 Olly Hodges (Ireland)
Fourth Official Ian Tempest (England)
TMO Simon McDowell (Ireland)
Citing Commissioner Maurizio Vancini (Italy)
A. Head to Head
8 Played 8
4 Wins 4
4 Losses 4
0 Draws 0
164 Points 199
B. Form
01 Apr 2007
Leicester Tigers 21 - 20 Stade Francais
15 Jan 2006
Leicester Tigers 29 - 22 Stade Francais
29 Oct 2005
Stade Francais 12 - 6 Leicester Tigers
30 Jan 2004
Leicester Tigers 13 - 26 Stade Francais
06 Dec 2003
Stade Francais 26 - 15 Leicester Tigers
C. Teams
Leicester Tigers
15 Matthew Tait (capt)
14 Adam Thompstone
13 Peter Betham
12 Matt Smith
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Owen Williams
9 Ben Youngs
1 Marcos Ayerza
2 Tom Youngs
3 Dan Cole
4 Mike Williams
5 Michael Fitzgerald
6 Tom Croft
7 Brendon O'Connor
8 Lachlan McCaffrey
16 Leonardo Ghiraldini
17 Matias Aguero
18 Fraser Balmain
19 Dom Barrow
20 Jordan Crane
21 Sam Harrison
22 Seremaia Bai
23 Telusa Veainu
Stade Francais
15 Hugo Bonneval
14 Julien Arias
13 Paul Williams
12 Herman Meyer Bosman
11 Jérémy Sinzelle
10 Morné Steyn
9 Julien Dupuy
1 Zak Taulafo
2 Laurent Panis
3 Adrien Oleon
4 Paul Gabrillagues
5 Pascal Papé
6 Patrick Sio
7 Sylvain Nicolas
8 Sergio Parisse (capt)
16 Dany Priso
17 Zurabi Zhvania
18 Rabah Slimani
19 Alexandre Flanquart
20 Jonathan Ross
21 Julien Tomas
22 Waisea Vuidarvuwalu
23 Josaia Raisuqe
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Ben Youngs looks like he's enjoying playing in a Mauger attack. Great sniping.
Another turnover from O'Connor at the bottom of that mass of bodies.
Another turnover from O'Connor at the bottom of that mass of bodies.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Youngs getting some quick ball out now the clear outs are working well
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Great to see slater come on
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Corner instead of posts....
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Odd that despite the score, I don't think Owen Wuilliams is having a very good game.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Future England player there..... Lol
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
funny. I should have seen that coming.......nathan wrote:Future England player there..... Lol
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Does Lacey ever try to communicate with the players
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Gonava committing himself early again
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I think Owen Williams is having an ok game. He's not doing much wrong but I'd like to see him control territory a little better and link a little better with the forwards as well as the backs. His passing has been good with some lovely long passes that have drifted a touch high at times. At 22 I'm not surprised he isn't controlling the game perfectly.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Harrison playing well
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Ooooh, can't tell. I say give it for the attacking team
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Harrison always plays well.
Our defence has been up and down. When they've broken in behind we've been slow to reorganise and line speed has not been good enough.
In attack we need to start looking for the drop goal when momentum is leaving our attack.
Our defence has been up and down. When they've broken in behind we've been slow to reorganise and line speed has not been good enough.
In attack we need to start looking for the drop goal when momentum is leaving our attack.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
agree with that. Unusual not to have a good tv view on the line.nathan wrote:Ooooh, can't tell. I say give it for the attacking team
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Happy with the win, although we still have a lot to improve on. Happy with the new way of playing though
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Good win. Leicester seemed to me to still have the ability to ramp it up more. Yes, they slowed a bit at the end, but for a while in the second half they seemed just a step away from another try, or more. As a Saints fan, it is always a double edged sword. Happy to see Leicester with the ability to go off in Europe, but makes me nervouls when we play each other.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Good continuation of our improvement this season. We're building nicely with three wins out of four in the AP and now a bonus point win to start the Champions Cup. Compared to this time last season...
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Just reading on Twitter that grenades have been thrown at state de France?
Not sure if it's a joke... It's on breath the sport
Not sure if it's a joke... It's on breath the sport
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
I'm afraid what is happening in Paris seems to be even more serious than that nathan, and it is definitely not a joke.
Reports of grenades thrown at the Stade de France, bomb in a bar near the stadium, several men with assault rifles have opened fire on a restaurant and a hostage situation unfolding in a concert hall. Scenes of absolute horror and destruction with reports of dead bodies in the street.
Reports of grenades thrown at the Stade de France, bomb in a bar near the stadium, several men with assault rifles have opened fire on a restaurant and a hostage situation unfolding in a concert hall. Scenes of absolute horror and destruction with reports of dead bodies in the street.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Just read it on the bbc, this world is utter Poopie sometimes
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
The national football team are playing in the Stade de Francais with Hollande in the crowd. Sadly it only takes one moron with a machine gun to ruin lives.
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It sounds like it's more than 1 person, it's happening in multiple locationsformerly known as Sam wrote:The national football team are playing in the Stade de Francais with Hollande in the crowd. Sadly it only takes one moron with a machine gun to ruin lives.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Coordinated terrorist attack by the sounds of it. Thoughts are with the families of the French victims and hostages. Horrible events.
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Every generation has its conflicts but most generations have leaders that have the guts to ask big questions and create momentum to make big changes.
Right now the World is being led by too many grey business men in suits who only think economy, jobs, banks and global warming. We need more real political morally driven Leaders who think and act big. We need the Middle East sorted! It goes on and on and on and on.... intransigence, no real negotiations, bluff negotiations, long-finger negotiations designed to constantly put off the major decisions needed to give that region f**king Hope!
And who has moved into the vacuum? Gangster organisations controlling large areas of the region under terror conditions (using weaponry mostly made in western nations)... and allowed do so because too many Nations that could make a difference are standing off and keeping their distance. But there IS no distance as we've found out time and time again with all the terror acts that have taken place around the world.
Nations in that region must be forced to a negotiating table with real proposals on the table to ease the decades and decades of tension.... and forced into real executable agreements not allowed bluff through years and years of hollow chit chat.... as local politicians use the anger of pain and war to keep getting re-elected
Right now the World is being led by too many grey business men in suits who only think economy, jobs, banks and global warming. We need more real political morally driven Leaders who think and act big. We need the Middle East sorted! It goes on and on and on and on.... intransigence, no real negotiations, bluff negotiations, long-finger negotiations designed to constantly put off the major decisions needed to give that region f**king Hope!
And who has moved into the vacuum? Gangster organisations controlling large areas of the region under terror conditions (using weaponry mostly made in western nations)... and allowed do so because too many Nations that could make a difference are standing off and keeping their distance. But there IS no distance as we've found out time and time again with all the terror acts that have taken place around the world.
Nations in that region must be forced to a negotiating table with real proposals on the table to ease the decades and decades of tension.... and forced into real executable agreements not allowed bluff through years and years of hollow chit chat.... as local politicians use the anger of pain and war to keep getting re-elected
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Let's not make this in to a political thing please
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It is political and people are dying in France because of regional politics being generally ignored by countries that only think of trade fairs, VW exhaust levels, deficits, more housing for young families and fracking v windpower.....
It is political. But that's my bit done on this thread about it.
It is political. But that's my bit done on this thread about it.
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I get your feelings. Sometimes we need to vent, and we are all friends here. So no worries.SecretFly wrote:It is political and people are dying in France because of regional politics being generally ignored by countries that only think of trade fairs, VW exhaust levels, deficits, more housing for young families and fracking v windpower.....
It is political. But that's my bit done on this thread about it.
But people have died. For the religious, how about a prayer. For the rest of us, just let our hearts skip a beat for those poor people. ....
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
And Leicester were good, eh?
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Just got home, and listening to events unfolding in Paris as I drove makes me embarrassed to ask this, but was Lacey as poor as he seemed at the ground? Not one sided but just utterly clueless.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Lacey didn't seem poor but seemed to me to be going through the motions. Was a little kind to Leicester, but Tigers were overall the better team, at times significantly so. From my perspective I would doubt SF was ever going to win. Tigers earned their bonus point. Watching the second half I thought Leicester had an extra gear they never used.LondonTiger wrote:Just got home, and listening to events unfolding in Paris as I drove makes me embarrassed to ask this, but was Lacey as poor as he seemed at the ground? Not one sided but just utterly clueless.
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For me, he was poor to both teams. He's a rubbish ref.
Forward passes missed in the lead up to SF tries, o'conner should of been pinged as the ruck beat him
Forward passes missed in the lead up to SF tries, o'conner should of been pinged as the ruck beat him
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
formerly known as Sam wrote:He's showing his complete incompetency early. How can you be offside from your own knock on?
That was brilliant, wasn't it? And this is the man who was given the Bronze medal match at the World Cup.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Got to say; all credit to Tigers, SF looked to be cruising to the win midway through the first half but then didn't want to scrap for it and the better side won and won well, Lacey had a shocker another ref may well have disallowed two Tigers tries but they would still have won.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Which two?jimbopip wrote:Got to say; all credit to Tigers, SF looked to be cruising to the win midway through the first half but then didn't want to scrap for it and the better side won and won well, Lacey had a shocker another ref may well have disallowed two Tigers tries but they would still have won.
Agree with the o'conner turnover try but unsure on the other one?
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
What did the commentators have anything to say about that early offside penalty?
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LondonTiger wrote:What did the commentators have anything to say about that early offside penalty?
That he got it wrong.
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LondonTiger wrote:What did the commentators have anything to say about that early offside penalty?
Tried not to bash the ref but pointed out he was wrong. BOD and Kay aren't really commentators to make a fuss.
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That was a work of genius - never seen someone given offside from their own knock on before ...
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Never seen a ref hold up a scrum by accidentally standing in front of the tunnel either...
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
After some of the bilge I have sat through in the last couple of years, last seasons home win v Wasps most prominent to mind, that was jolly good fun last night.
Best wishes go out to the Stade team, hope they found all their loved ones safe at home today.
Best wishes go out to the Stade team, hope they found all their loved ones safe at home today.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
It's easier to put up with the handling mistakes when we're trying to play positive rugby. Watching the knock ons after seven phases of one out up the jumper rugby was painfully bad.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Smith, Goneva and O'Connor all in the Midi team of the weekend.
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Tom youngs made it on to the planet rugby one, folks on here won't like that
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Midi Olympique the French paper.
Nice to see Tom Youngs get some praise. I actually think he's played better than that this season. There's certainly no world cup hangover with him.
Nice to see Tom Youngs get some praise. I actually think he's played better than that this season. There's certainly no world cup hangover with him.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
Watched the game last night and already knew the score so could player watch a bit more.
Thought Tigers were well worth the win, had a huge amount of possession and pretty much controlled the game from the start to finish.
Williams had a poor game, it was his decision making that meant you'd go through 10+ phases laterally and make little headway before knocking on. His long passing and the backlines drift in attack against the Stade D just didn't work and put yourselves under pressure.
Otherwise very good though, great to see an English side look to positive and up for out scoring the opposition rather then just trying to concede less. Although the pen kick at the end was odd
Stade showed you guys how to convert chances to points in some ways, just about every foray into your 22 they scored (all 3 of them).
Thought Tigers were well worth the win, had a huge amount of possession and pretty much controlled the game from the start to finish.
Williams had a poor game, it was his decision making that meant you'd go through 10+ phases laterally and make little headway before knocking on. His long passing and the backlines drift in attack against the Stade D just didn't work and put yourselves under pressure.
Otherwise very good though, great to see an English side look to positive and up for out scoring the opposition rather then just trying to concede less. Although the pen kick at the end was odd
Stade showed you guys how to convert chances to points in some ways, just about every foray into your 22 they scored (all 3 of them).
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
https://twitter.com/SkySportsRugby/status/666566754567589888
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais, 13 November
An analysis of BOC.
http://www.rugbyworld.com/countries/england-countries/european-champions-cup-analysis-brendon-oconnor-makes-excellent-leicester-tigers-debut-52423
http://www.rugbyworld.com/countries/england-countries/european-champions-cup-analysis-brendon-oconnor-makes-excellent-leicester-tigers-debut-52423
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yappysnap wrote:Watched the game last night and already knew the score so could player watch a bit more.
Thought Tigers were well worth the win, had a huge amount of possession and pretty much controlled the game from the start to finish.
Williams had a poor game, it was his decision making that meant you'd go through 10+ phases laterally and make little headway before knocking on. His long passing and the backlines drift in attack against the Stade D just didn't work and put yourselves under pressure.
Otherwise very good though, great to see an English side look to positive and up for out scoring the opposition rather then just trying to concede less. Although the pen kick at the end was odd
Stade showed you guys how to convert chances to points in some ways, just about every foray into your 22 they scored (all 3 of them).
Don't think i agree with you fully on Williams, didnt think he was outstanding but didn't think he was poor. I watched some of the breaks he made on Rugby Tonight (euro)
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