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Post by George Carlin Mon 02 Nov 2015, 1:13 pm

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Leicester Tigers v Stade Francais
Friday 13 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Welford Road, Leicester

Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee John Lacey (Ireland)
Touch Judge 1 David Wilkinson (Ireland)
Touch Judge 2 Olly Hodges (Ireland)
Fourth Official Ian Tempest (England)
TMO Simon McDowell (Ireland)
Citing Commissioner Maurizio Vancini (Italy)

A. Head to Head

8 Played 8
4 Wins 4
4 Losses 4
0 Draws 0
164 Points 199

B. Form

01 Apr 2007
Leicester Tigers 21 - 20 Stade Francais

15 Jan 2006
Leicester Tigers 29 - 22 Stade Francais

29 Oct 2005
Stade Francais 12 - 6 Leicester Tigers

30 Jan 2004
Leicester Tigers 13 - 26 Stade Francais

06 Dec 2003
Stade Francais 26 - 15 Leicester Tigers

C. Teams

Leicester Tigers
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15 Matthew Tait (capt)
14 Adam Thompstone
13 Peter Betham
12 Matt Smith
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Owen Williams
9 Ben Youngs

1 Marcos Ayerza
2 Tom Youngs
3 Dan Cole
4 Mike Williams
5 Michael Fitzgerald
6 Tom Croft
7 Brendon O'Connor
8 Lachlan McCaffrey

16 Leonardo Ghiraldini
17 Matias Aguero
18 Fraser Balmain
19 Dom Barrow
20 Jordan Crane
21 Sam Harrison
22 Seremaia Bai
23 Telusa Veainu

Stade Francais
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15 Hugo Bonneval
14 Julien Arias
13 Paul Williams
12 Herman Meyer Bosman
11 Jérémy Sinzelle
10 Morné Steyn
9 Julien Dupuy

1 Zak Taulafo
2 Laurent Panis
3 Adrien Oleon
4 Paul Gabrillagues
5 Pascal Papé
6 Patrick Sio
7 Sylvain Nicolas
8 Sergio Parisse (capt)

16 Dany Priso
17 Zurabi Zhvania
18 Rabah Slimani
19 Alexandre Flanquart
20 Jonathan Ross
21 Julien Tomas
22 Waisea Vuidarvuwalu
23 Josaia Raisuqe


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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:06 pm

Ben Youngs looks like he's enjoying playing in a Mauger attack. Great sniping.

Another turnover from O'Connor at the bottom of that mass of bodies.

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:08 pm

Youngs getting some quick ball out now the clear outs are working well

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:08 pm

Great to see slater come on

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:14 pm

Corner instead of posts....

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:16 pm

Odd that despite the score, I don't think Owen Wuilliams is having a very good game.

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:16 pm

Future England player there..... Lol

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:19 pm

nathan wrote:Future England player there..... Lol
funny. I should have seen that coming.......

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:20 pm

Does Lacey ever try to communicate with the players

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:22 pm

Gonava committing himself early again

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:22 pm

I think Owen Williams is having an ok game. He's not doing much wrong but I'd like to see him control territory a little better and link a little better with the forwards as well as the backs. His passing has been good with some lovely long passes that have drifted a touch high at times. At 22 I'm not surprised he isn't controlling the game perfectly.

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:28 pm

Harrison playing well

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:31 pm

Ooooh, can't tell. I say give it for the attacking team

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:32 pm

Harrison always plays well.

Our defence has been up and down. When they've broken in behind we've been slow to reorganise and line speed has not been good enough.

In attack we need to start looking for the drop goal when momentum is leaving our attack.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:33 pm

nathan wrote:Ooooh, can't tell. I say give it for the attacking team
agree with that. Unusual not to have a good tv view on the line.

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:35 pm

Happy with the win, although we still have a lot to improve on. Happy with the new way of playing though

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:40 pm

Good win. Leicester seemed to me to still have the ability to ramp it up more. Yes, they slowed a bit at the end, but for a while in the second half they seemed just a step away from another try, or more. As a Saints fan, it is always a double edged sword. Happy to see Leicester with the ability to go off in Europe, but makes me nervouls when we play each other.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:45 pm

Good continuation of our improvement this season. We're building nicely with three wins out of four in the AP and now a bonus point win to start the Champions Cup. Compared to this time last season...

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:53 pm

Just reading on Twitter that grenades have been thrown at state de France? 

Not sure if it's a joke... It's on breath the sport

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Post by Notch Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:56 pm

I'm afraid what is happening in Paris seems to be even more serious than that nathan, and it is definitely not a joke.

Reports of grenades thrown at the Stade de France, bomb in a bar near the stadium, several men with assault rifles have opened fire on a restaurant and a hostage situation unfolding in a concert hall. Scenes of absolute horror and destruction with reports of dead bodies in the street.
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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 9:57 pm

Just read it on the bbc, this world is utter Poopie sometimes

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:05 pm

The national football team are playing in the Stade de Francais with Hollande in the crowd. Sadly it only takes one moron with a machine gun to ruin lives.

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:09 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:The national football team are playing in the Stade de Francais with Hollande in the crowd. Sadly it only takes one moron with a machine gun to ruin lives.
It sounds like it's more than 1 person, it's happening in multiple locations

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:12 pm

Coordinated terrorist attack by the sounds of it. Thoughts are with the families of the French victims and hostages. Horrible events.

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:14 pm

100 hostages Sad

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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:35 pm

Every generation has its conflicts but most generations have leaders that have the guts to ask big questions and create momentum to make big changes.
Right now the World is being led by too many grey business men in suits who only think economy, jobs, banks and global warming.  We need more real political morally driven Leaders who think and act big.  We need the Middle East sorted!  It goes on and on and on and on.... intransigence, no real negotiations, bluff negotiations, long-finger negotiations designed to constantly put off the major decisions needed to give that region f**king Hope!

And who has moved into the vacuum?  Gangster organisations controlling large areas of the region under terror conditions (using weaponry mostly made in western nations)... and allowed do so because too many Nations that could make a difference are standing off and keeping their distance.  But there IS no distance as we've found out time and time again with all the terror acts that have taken place around the world.

Nations in that region must be forced to a negotiating table with real proposals on the table to ease the decades and decades of tension.... and forced into real executable agreements not allowed bluff through years and years of hollow chit chat.... as local politicians use the anger of pain and war to keep getting re-elected

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Post by nathan Fri 13 Nov 2015, 10:58 pm

Let's not make this in to a political thing please

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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Nov 2015, 11:05 pm

It is political and people are dying in France because of regional politics being generally ignored by countries that only think of trade fairs, VW exhaust levels, deficits, more housing for young families and fracking v windpower.....

It is political.  But that's my bit done on this thread about it.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 13 Nov 2015, 11:14 pm

SecretFly wrote:It is political and people are dying in France because of regional politics being generally ignored by countries that only think of trade fairs, VW exhaust levels, deficits, more housing for young families and fracking v windpower.....

It is political.  But that's my bit done on this thread about it.
I get your feelings. Sometimes we need to vent, and we are all friends here. So no worries.
But people have died. For the religious, how about a prayer. For the rest of us, just let our hearts skip a beat for those poor people. ....


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Post by doctor_grey Fri 13 Nov 2015, 11:15 pm

And Leicester were good, eh?

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Post by LondonTiger Fri 13 Nov 2015, 11:30 pm

Just got home, and listening to events unfolding in Paris as I drove makes me embarrassed to ask this, but was Lacey as poor as he seemed at the ground? Not one sided but just utterly clueless.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 14 Nov 2015, 3:32 am

LondonTiger wrote:Just got home, and listening to events unfolding in Paris as I drove makes me embarrassed to ask this, but was Lacey as poor as he seemed at the ground? Not one sided but just utterly clueless.
Lacey didn't seem poor but seemed to me to be going through the motions. Was a little kind to Leicester, but Tigers were overall the better team, at times significantly so. From my perspective I would doubt SF was ever going to win. Tigers earned their bonus point. Watching the second half I thought Leicester had an extra gear they never used.

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Post by nathan Sat 14 Nov 2015, 7:58 am

For me, he was poor to both teams. He's a rubbish ref.

Forward passes missed in the lead up to SF tries, o'conner should of been pinged as the ruck beat him

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat 14 Nov 2015, 8:05 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:He's showing his complete incompetency early. How can you be offside from your own knock on?

That was brilliant, wasn't it? And this is the man who was given the Bronze medal match at the World Cup.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:19 am

Got to say; all credit to Tigers, SF looked to be cruising to the win midway through the first half but then didn't want to scrap for it and the better side won and won well, Lacey had a shocker another ref may well have disallowed two Tigers tries but they would still have won.

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Post by nathan Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:22 am

jimbopip wrote:Got to say; all credit to Tigers, SF looked to be cruising to the win midway through the first half but then didn't want to scrap for it and the better side won and won well, Lacey had a shocker another ref may well have disallowed two Tigers tries but they would still have won.
Which two?

Agree with the o'conner turnover try but unsure on the other one?

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 14 Nov 2015, 11:24 am

What did the commentators have anything to say about that early offside penalty?

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Post by nathan Sat 14 Nov 2015, 11:41 am

LondonTiger wrote:What did the commentators have anything to say about that early offside penalty?

That he got it wrong.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 14 Nov 2015, 11:46 am

LondonTiger wrote:What did the commentators have anything to say about that early offside penalty?

Tried not to bash the ref but pointed out he was wrong. BOD and Kay aren't really commentators to make a fuss.

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Post by Heaf Sat 14 Nov 2015, 11:47 am

That was a work of genius - never seen someone given offside from their own knock on before ...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 14 Nov 2015, 5:37 pm

Never seen a ref hold up a scrum by accidentally standing in front of the tunnel either...

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 14 Nov 2015, 8:53 pm

After some of the bilge I have sat through in the last couple of years, last seasons home win v Wasps most prominent to mind, that was jolly good fun last night.


Best wishes go out to the Stade team, hope they found all their loved ones safe at home today.


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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 14 Nov 2015, 9:31 pm

It's easier to put up with the handling mistakes when we're trying to play positive rugby. Watching the knock ons after seven phases of one out up the jumper rugby was painfully bad.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 16 Nov 2015, 11:34 am

Smith, Goneva and O'Connor all in the Midi team of the weekend.

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Post by nathan Mon 16 Nov 2015, 5:20 pm

Midi?

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Post by nathan Mon 16 Nov 2015, 5:49 pm

Tom youngs made it on to the planet rugby one, folks on here won't like that

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 16 Nov 2015, 7:58 pm

Midi Olympique the French paper.

Nice to see Tom Youngs get some praise. I actually think he's played better than that this season. There's certainly no world cup hangover with him.

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Post by yappysnap Tue 17 Nov 2015, 6:31 am

Watched the game last night and already knew the score so could player watch a bit more.

Thought Tigers were well worth the win, had a huge amount of possession and pretty much controlled the game from the start to finish.

Williams had a poor game, it was his decision making that meant you'd go through 10+ phases laterally and make little headway before knocking on. His long passing and the backlines drift in attack against the Stade D just didn't work and put yourselves under pressure.

Otherwise very good though, great to see an English side look to positive and up for out scoring the opposition rather then just trying to concede less. Although the pen kick at the end was odd Headscratch

Stade showed you guys how to convert chances to points in some ways, just about every foray into your 22 they scored (all 3 of them).

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Post by nathan Tue 17 Nov 2015, 11:22 am

https://twitter.com/SkySportsRugby/status/666566754567589888

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 17 Nov 2015, 11:58 am

An analysis of BOC.

http://www.rugbyworld.com/countries/england-countries/european-champions-cup-analysis-brendon-oconnor-makes-excellent-leicester-tigers-debut-52423

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Post by nathan Tue 17 Nov 2015, 12:29 pm

yappysnap wrote:Watched the game last night and already knew the score so could player watch a bit more.

Thought Tigers were well worth the win, had a huge amount of possession and pretty much controlled the game from the start to finish.

Williams had a poor game, it was his decision making that meant you'd go through 10+ phases laterally and make little headway before knocking on. His long passing and the backlines drift in attack against the Stade D just didn't work and put yourselves under pressure.

Otherwise very good though, great to see an English side look to positive and up for out scoring the opposition rather then just trying to concede less. Although the pen kick at the end was odd Headscratch

Stade showed you guys how to convert chances to points in some ways, just about every foray into your 22 they scored (all 3 of them).

Don't think i agree with you fully on Williams, didnt think he was outstanding but didn't think he was poor. I watched some of the breaks he made on Rugby Tonight (euro)

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