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Post by neilthom7 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 11:11 am

Dragons v Ulster Rugby
Sunday 8th November 2015
Rodney Parade
2.30pm Kick Off
TV- BBC NI and S4C

Referee: Dudley Phillips (IRFU, 54th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Sean Brickell, Simon Rees (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Aurwel Morgan (WRU)
TMO: Tim Hayes (WRU)

This should be interesting, Ulster have changed their squad up for this one with the European game in France coming up and with a numbe rof players still missing with Injuries.  Combine that with our frankly awful away record this season and things don't look good but still at least we have best and pienaar back.

Newport Gwent Dragons: Carl Meyer; Ashton Hewitt, Adam Hughes, Adam Warren, Nick Scott; Dorian Jones, Sarel Pretorius; Boris Stankovich, Elliot Dee, Shaun Knight; Cory Hill, Rynard Landman (capt); Ed Jackson, Ollie Griffiths, Taulupe Faletau.

Replacements: Rhys Buckley, Phil Price, Brok Harris, Matthew Screech, Lewis Evans, Charlie Davies, Jason Tovey, Ross Wardle.

Ulster: Peter Nelson; Rory Scholes, Darren Cave, Stuart McCloskey, Sam Arnold; Paddy Jackson, Paul Marshall; Kyle McCall, Rob Herring (captain), Wiehahn Herbst; Dan Tuohy, Franco van der Merwe; Robbie Diack, Chris Henry, Stephen Mulholland.

Replacements: Rory Best, Ricky Lutton, Bronson Ross, Lewis Stevenson, Sean Reidy, Ruan Pienaar, Ian Humphreys, Craig Gilroy


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Post by Guest Sat 07 Nov 2015, 11:51 am

Injury list: Henderson, Trimble, Bowe, Ludik, Olding, L Marshall.

Rested/Dropped: Williams, Wilson.

Don't know: Black, Warwick.

Abducted by Aliens: O'Connor.

Changes to the starting XV, as expected, with the European game next week. What wasn't expected was Sam Arnold (centre) being moved to wing, McCall starting the game, and the most unexpected start for Mulholland who appears to have come from nowhere, and Williams not even making the bench.
Williams needs a break though, and I don't know if Wilson has been dropped, or rested. Probably dropped, but Diack should offer us more anyway.
Having thought about it a bit more, I have no complaint about the line up. It's a 'needs must' selection, and we need to blood new players, as well as giving some more game time. Arnold being moved to wing makes sense as well. We are not short on centres.

Considering last seasons result here, our away form this season and the starting XV, I'm a wee bit nervous.

With the strong bench and new coach, I think we will edge it...

.....maybe.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 07 Nov 2015, 11:54 am

I agree all round there mate, hopefully the leadership coming off the bench will be enough to get us over the line

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Post by Guest Sat 07 Nov 2015, 12:14 pm

Yes, great to see Rory back. He's in great form, and his leadership to this side has been missed. If things are tight, as I expect them to be, Best and Pienaar can make the difference and see us through to a win. Best was flogged during the RWC, but both him and Pienaar need the game time before next week. So hoping they get a decent run out, with Gilroy maybe getting 10 - 15 minutes.

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Post by The Great Aukster Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:51 pm

I was undecided about this fixture until I saw the Officials - a LBP is OK though.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:27 pm

We just have to try and play smart with Dudley.

This is a game we need to win. They all are, now that we have already lost three games. If we are to avoid getting into a scrap for 6th place we need to keep the pressure on the teams currently above us, as well as not allowing the gap between ourselves and Ospreys to shrink. They are still a threat.

Nervous about this one. Dragons can beat us, and will if we haven't turned our poor away form around.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:34 pm

Horrible start for Mulholland. Spilled ball, and missed tackle.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:37 pm

Jackson is so good - he is way better than Madigan.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:38 pm

Good scrum by dragons

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:40 pm

Good patience level in attack by Dragons. Faletau looks good today

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:43 pm

Poor from Arnold.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:46 pm

Van der Merwe saves a certain Try.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:48 pm

Yellow for McCloskey picard

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:48 pm

Arnold looks way out of his depth.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:48 pm

Great pressure by dragons, bit of a harsh yellow card. Seen worse offences go unpunished before


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Post by clivemcl Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:48 pm

Good grief Ulster picard

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Post by JmD Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:50 pm

Terrible by Dudley so far. Maybe he's trying too hard to show otf how he's not biased...

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:51 pm

Diack having a strong game so far.

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Post by JmD Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:52 pm

My god, Arnold is not a smart man.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:53 pm

This is poor from Ulster. So no change to our away form...

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Post by clivemcl Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:54 pm

Please Les! For the love of all things good; empty the bench now!

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:55 pm

I was going to say much more aggression and interest needed by Ulster..... maybe it's beginning to happen now

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:55 pm

At least we have a good maul. We need to use that much more.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:57 pm

SecretFly wrote:I was going to say much more aggression and interest needed by Ulster..... maybe it's beginning to happen now

Two very good words to use there Fly - two things that have been crucially missing in this Ulster side this season.

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Post by clivemcl Sun 08 Nov 2015, 2:59 pm

Glad we had advantage there. Walk away with three points despite another spilt ball this time McCall

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:03 pm

Better from Arnold.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:03 pm

That passing from Jackson - so, so good.

Also, that Dragons open-side flanker looks very good.

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:04 pm

This McCall guy.... a bit of a liability in this game so far. Admit this is the first time I've seen him play.

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Post by clivemcl Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:05 pm

Not to be too harsh but he did one thing that was 'standard' not spectacular.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:06 pm

Better from Ulster. Diack having a good game.

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Post by neilthom7 Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:07 pm

Do our forwards know they are forwards? They are all standing off and its the backs cleaning out the rucks.

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:08 pm

Ulster will be happy they dragged this back after such a start.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:08 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:That passing from Jackson - so, so good.

Also, that Dragons open-side flanker looks very good.

Under 20s Welsh open side Ollie Griffiths. I agree he looks very good.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:10 pm

If that wasn't a penalty for pulling down the maul i don't know what is

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:11 pm

neilthom7 wrote:Do our forwards know they are forwards? They are all standing off and its the backs cleaning out the rucks.  

Yeah, true. But I just think the ball is being spread too quickly. They'd get more impact hitting hard down one channel for a bit. They're taking pressure off pressure areas too quickly

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:11 pm

Adam Hughes the outside centre was always a player I really enjoyed watching, but he isn't half the man he was before he moved away.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:12 pm

Not impressed with Pretorious

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:14 pm

Very scrappy stuff there at the end. Minds on the clock rather than the game.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:15 pm

SecretFly wrote:Ulster will be happy they dragged this back after such a start.

Yes, a very poor start, but we managed to get into the game. With the wind at our backs, and some quality to come off the bench, I am fairly optimistic.


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Post by JmD Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:16 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:That passing from Jackson - so, so good.

Also, that Dragons open-side flanker looks very good.

Under 20s Welsh open side Ollie Griffiths. I agree he looks very good.

He's small but very effective so far

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Post by neilthom7 Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:16 pm

SecretFly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:Do our forwards know they are forwards? They are all standing off and its the backs cleaning out the rucks.  

Yeah, true.  But I just think the ball is being spread too quickly.  They'd get more impact hitting hard down one channel for a bit.  They're taking pressure off pressure areas too quickly

Agreed, hit it up a few times clean it out quickly with our forwards sucking in a few defenders then go wide and execute overlaps when you have them. Its a simple game really at the end of the day

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:19 pm

They are talking a lot of sense here at half time - the forwards are standing out to take the ball at first and second receiver and our backs are the ones clearing out the rucks! That needs sorted out immediately. Our forward pack is a joke to be honest.

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Post by Notch Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:24 pm

We're extremely lucky that they didn't manage a try with all that possession. We haven't played well at all but we've hung in and we can grow into the game as it goes on so reasons for guarded optimism... Discipline has been better when they've been putting us under pressure, silly penalties from Arnold and McCloskey notwithstanding. Second best but we can grind a win out if we're focused.


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Post by Notch Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:25 pm

Best, Pienaar and Gilroy on to give us a lift please!
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Post by maestegmafia Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:26 pm

JmD wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:That passing from Jackson - so, so good.

Also, that Dragons open-side flanker looks very good.

Under 20s Welsh open side Ollie Griffiths. I agree he looks very good.

He's small but very effective so far

Aye,

We have a few like him in Wales. James Davies and Nick Cudd are very similar. Not huge in size but effective and smart.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:27 pm

Marshall needs to sharpen up his passing - it hasn't been good.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:30 pm

Is that on the line?

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:31 pm

Not rolling away, give me a break the ball was free to play for the scrumhalf

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:31 pm

Very harsh yellow.

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Post by JmD Sun 08 Nov 2015, 3:32 pm

He lost the ball but surely the ball went backwards?

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