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Post by George Carlin Tue 17 Nov 2015, 6:01 am

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Ulster Rugby
v Saracens
Friday 20 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Kingspan Stadium, Belfast

Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1 Cyril Lafon (France)
Touch Judge 2 Pierre Brousset (France)
Fourth Official Richard Kerr (Ireland)
TMO Eric Gauzins (France)

A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
1 Wins 5
5 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
98 Points 148

B. Recent Form

5 April 2014
Ulster 15-17 Saracens

6 April 2013
Saracens 27-16 Ulster

C. Teams

Ulster Rugby
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15. Louis Ludik
14. Andrew Trimble
13. Darren Cave
12. Stuart McCloskey
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Paddy Jackson
09. Ruan Pienaar

01. Callum Black
02. Rory Best (c)
03. Wiehahn Herbst
04. Dan Tuohy
05. Franco Van Der Merwe
06. Iain Henderson
07. Chris Henry
08. Nick Williams

16. Rob Herring
17. Kyle McCall
18. Ricky Lutton
19. Robbie Diack
20. Roger Wilson
21. Paul Marshall
22. Ian Humphreys
23. Peter Nelson

Saracens
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15 Alex Goode
14 Chris Ashton
13 Duncan Taylor
12 Brad Barritt (c)
11 Chris Wyles
10 Owen Farrell
09 Richard Wigglesworth

01 Mako Vunipola
02 Schalk Brits
03 Petrus Du Plessis
04 George Kruis
05 Maro Itoje
06 Michael Rhodes
07 Jacques Burger
08 Billy Vunipola

16 Jamie George
17 Rhys Gill
18 Juan Figallo
19 Alistair Hargreaves
20 Jackson Wray
21 Neil De Kock
22 Charlie Hodgson
23 Marcelo Bosch


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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:50 pm

Wigglesworth is sooooo slow

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:53 pm

No consistency in the game what.so.ever.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:54 pm

That is one of the worst I have seen.

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:54 pm

I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:54 pm

When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:55 pm

nathan wrote:I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne

The rules haven't changed at all.

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:56 pm

Yellow card only for English team player by French ref on similar taking out in air tackle.

There'll be a few texts and mouth foaming on that one.

0-0 so far.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:56 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.

Now, travel back under your bridge please.

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Post by toml Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:56 pm

That was vicious. All the commentators said red, and with what has gone before

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Post by toml Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:58 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.

Now, travel back under your bridge please.

They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:58 pm

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nathan wrote:I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne

The rules haven't changed at all.

They were clarified by world rugby this year. Noteably:

Challenging players in the air - Law 10.4(i)
Yellow card – Not a fair challenge, there is no contest and the player is pulled down landing on his back or side

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:58 pm

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nathan wrote:I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne

The rules haven't changed at all.

You know exactly what I mean

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:58 pm

toml wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.

Now, travel back under your bridge please.

They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman

Chunky wants to portray the Ulster fans as thugs, and he will use any opportunity he can to do so.

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:59 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

Well when lying toerags make stuff up and try to post opinions as facts they get labelled all sorts of things too.


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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:00 pm

Pot Hale wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

Well when people make stuff and try to post opinions as facts they get labelled all sorts of things too.

As they should be.

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:00 pm

toml wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.

Now, travel back under your bridge please.

They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
No offence, but your playing sarries. No Englishman likes them apart from actual sarrie fans and some of them have lost faith

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Post by toml Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:03 pm

nathan wrote:
toml wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.

Now, travel back under your bridge please.

They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
No offence, but your playing sarries. No Englishman likes them apart from actual sarrie fans and some of them have lost faith

No offence to me. Austin said it wasn't as bad as it looked, saw the replay and then said straight red.
It was amazing though, to have all the build up about the QF before the game and then to take a man in the air after 3 mins - you couldn't write it

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:03 pm

Harsh decision there

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:04 pm

Yellow was 100% correct decision in accordance with the laws.

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:05 pm

toml wrote:
nathan wrote:
toml wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.

At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.

Now, travel back under your bridge please.

They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
No offence, but your playing sarries. No Englishman likes them apart from actual sarrie fans and some of them have lost faith

No offence to me. Austin said it wasn't as bad as it looked, saw the replay and then said straight red.
It was amazing though, to have all the build up about the QF before the game and then to take a man in the air after 3 mins - you couldn't write it
Tell me about it. I'm glad they have relaxed the laws on it a bit. The Payne decision although correct at the time was just stupid.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:05 pm

Okay and it was made 10 minutes ago, so move on.

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Post by toml Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:06 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:Yellow was 100% correct decision in accordance with the laws.

Yeah I would have been happy if it had of been a yellow 18 months ago too,

But to red an accidental and to yellow an intentional foul of similar ilk feels we have been a bit hard done by

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:11 pm

Good drop goal.

Ulster are clearly trying to use McCloskey to make ground and give the offload to either Gilroy or Henderson as our main attacking weapons, but it is leaving Henderson out of the ruck area a lot more than I would like to see.

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:12 pm

Looked offside to me

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:13 pm

Maybe not

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:16 pm

Burger's hand actually touches Nick Williams' calf yet he's accused of using no arms in the tackle.


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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:16 pm

That seemed harsh.

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:17 pm

Yeah it was harsh, wonder what 9 was getting grumpy about

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:21 pm

How was that not a penalty to sarries? It was either knocked back or a deliberate knock on

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:21 pm

What place are the Saracens in the Premiership?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:22 pm

That was awful defending. Far, far too narrow.


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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:23 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:What place are the Saracens in the Premiership?

St the top I think?

Why do you ask?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:24 pm

nathan wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:What place are the Saracens in the Premiership?

St the top I think?

Why do you ask?

Well, we are playing them. So I was wondering where they are placed...

I knew they would be near the top anyway.

Thanks though.

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:26 pm

Ah cool, no need for the.......

Ulster losing a bit of composure at the minute, need half time to come

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:28 pm

nathan wrote:Ah cool, no need for the.......

Ulster losing a bit of composure at the minute, need half time to come

No need for what? The dots? Headscratch Laugh

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:32 pm

For being a boobie

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:33 pm

Eh... okay. Erm

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Post by toml Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:34 pm

wind it in

nathan wrote:For being a boobie

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Post by yappysnap Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:36 pm

All getting a bit heated here and in the game.

For what it's worth Burger has made multiple no arms tackles at knee height and no arms rucking too in the Prem, so I'm pleased to finally see him penalised for it.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:37 pm

He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:38 pm

Trust me Yappy, things could be a lot worse both on here and in the game. Things aren't really heated here, just a few comments from the usual immature suspects. Laugh

I think Saracens will be very happy with how things turned out in that half.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:39 pm

yappysnap wrote:He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt

Careful, before someone thinks you're an Ulster fan and starts on our team/fans for no reason. Whistle

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:39 pm

yappysnap wrote:He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt

What a charming thing to say about a rugby club.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:40 pm

Barrett with a couple of punches there, Poite manages to close his eyes in time.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:40 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
yappysnap wrote:He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt

What a charming thing to say about a rugby club.

Don't cry.

He'd probably agree with it

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:41 pm

Well isn't that rich. I was actually counting down how long it would take before that comment fished out Chunky. He didn't disappoint. Laugh


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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:41 pm

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Rory_Gallagher wrote:Trust me Yappy, things could be a lot worse both on here and in the game. Things aren't really heated here, just a few comments from the usual immature suspects. Laugh

I think Saracens will be very happy with how things turned out in that half.
Little unfair to lump me in with that lot lol

I think it's pretty even at the moment, the wind (if as bad as they mention) is worth 4 points. Will be interesting to see how they come out in the second half

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Post by toml Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:42 pm

yappysnap wrote:Barrett with a couple of punches there, Poite manages to close his eyes in time.

What was that? I didn't see it... or is that tongue in cheek

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Post by nathan Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:42 pm

toml wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Barrett with a couple of punches there, Poite manages to close his eyes in time.

What was that? I didn't see it... or is that tongue in cheek
I didn't see it either?

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Post by yappysnap Fri 20 Nov 2015, 8:45 pm

28 mins approx, he runs in to join a maul and throws an uppercutish punch

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