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Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
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Ulster Rugby v Saracens
Friday 20 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Kingspan Stadium, Belfast
Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports
Referee Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1 Cyril Lafon (France)
Touch Judge 2 Pierre Brousset (France)
Fourth Official Richard Kerr (Ireland)
TMO Eric Gauzins (France)
A. Head to Head
6 Played 6
1 Wins 5
5 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
98 Points 148
B. Recent Form
5 April 2014
Ulster 15-17 Saracens
6 April 2013
Saracens 27-16 Ulster
C. Teams
Ulster Rugby
15. Louis Ludik
14. Andrew Trimble
13. Darren Cave
12. Stuart McCloskey
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Paddy Jackson
09. Ruan Pienaar
01. Callum Black
02. Rory Best (c)
03. Wiehahn Herbst
04. Dan Tuohy
05. Franco Van Der Merwe
06. Iain Henderson
07. Chris Henry
08. Nick Williams
16. Rob Herring
17. Kyle McCall
18. Ricky Lutton
19. Robbie Diack
20. Roger Wilson
21. Paul Marshall
22. Ian Humphreys
23. Peter Nelson
Saracens
15 Alex Goode
14 Chris Ashton
13 Duncan Taylor
12 Brad Barritt (c)
11 Chris Wyles
10 Owen Farrell
09 Richard Wigglesworth
01 Mako Vunipola
02 Schalk Brits
03 Petrus Du Plessis
04 George Kruis
05 Maro Itoje
06 Michael Rhodes
07 Jacques Burger
08 Billy Vunipola
16 Jamie George
17 Rhys Gill
18 Juan Figallo
19 Alistair Hargreaves
20 Jackson Wray
21 Neil De Kock
22 Charlie Hodgson
23 Marcelo Bosch
Ulster Rugby v Saracens
Friday 20 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Kingspan Stadium, Belfast
Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports
Referee Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1 Cyril Lafon (France)
Touch Judge 2 Pierre Brousset (France)
Fourth Official Richard Kerr (Ireland)
TMO Eric Gauzins (France)
A. Head to Head
6 Played 6
1 Wins 5
5 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
98 Points 148
B. Recent Form
5 April 2014
Ulster 15-17 Saracens
6 April 2013
Saracens 27-16 Ulster
C. Teams
Ulster Rugby
15. Louis Ludik
14. Andrew Trimble
13. Darren Cave
12. Stuart McCloskey
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Paddy Jackson
09. Ruan Pienaar
01. Callum Black
02. Rory Best (c)
03. Wiehahn Herbst
04. Dan Tuohy
05. Franco Van Der Merwe
06. Iain Henderson
07. Chris Henry
08. Nick Williams
16. Rob Herring
17. Kyle McCall
18. Ricky Lutton
19. Robbie Diack
20. Roger Wilson
21. Paul Marshall
22. Ian Humphreys
23. Peter Nelson
Saracens
15 Alex Goode
14 Chris Ashton
13 Duncan Taylor
12 Brad Barritt (c)
11 Chris Wyles
10 Owen Farrell
09 Richard Wigglesworth
01 Mako Vunipola
02 Schalk Brits
03 Petrus Du Plessis
04 George Kruis
05 Maro Itoje
06 Michael Rhodes
07 Jacques Burger
08 Billy Vunipola
16 Jamie George
17 Rhys Gill
18 Juan Figallo
19 Alistair Hargreaves
20 Jackson Wray
21 Neil De Kock
22 Charlie Hodgson
23 Marcelo Bosch
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Wigglesworth is sooooo slow
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
No consistency in the game what.so.ever.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
That is one of the worst I have seen.
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I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
nathan wrote:I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne
The rules haven't changed at all.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Yellow card only for English team player by French ref on similar taking out in air tackle.
There'll be a few texts and mouth foaming on that one.
0-0 so far.
There'll be a few texts and mouth foaming on that one.
0-0 so far.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.
Now, travel back under your bridge please.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
That was vicious. All the commentators said red, and with what has gone before
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Rory_Gallagher wrote:Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.
Now, travel back under your bridge please.
They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
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Rory_Gallagher wrote:nathan wrote:I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne
The rules haven't changed at all.
They were clarified by world rugby this year. Noteably:
Challenging players in the air - Law 10.4(i)
Yellow card – Not a fair challenge, there is no contest and the player is pulled down landing on his back or side
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Rory_Gallagher wrote:nathan wrote:I think he's lucky there but to be fair they have relaxed the rules a little since payne
The rules haven't changed at all.
You know exactly what I mean
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toml wrote:Rory_Gallagher wrote:Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.
Now, travel back under your bridge please.
They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
Chunky wants to portray the Ulster fans as thugs, and he will use any opportunity he can to do so.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
Well when lying toerags make stuff up and try to post opinions as facts they get labelled all sorts of things too.
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Pot Hale wrote:Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
Well when people make stuff and try to post opinions as facts they get labelled all sorts of things too.
As they should be.
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No offence, but your playing sarries. No Englishman likes them apart from actual sarrie fans and some of them have lost faithtoml wrote:Rory_Gallagher wrote:Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.
Now, travel back under your bridge please.
They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
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nathan wrote:No offence, but your playing sarries. No Englishman likes them apart from actual sarrie fans and some of them have lost faithtoml wrote:Rory_Gallagher wrote:Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.
Now, travel back under your bridge please.
They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
No offence to me. Austin said it wasn't as bad as it looked, saw the replay and then said straight red.
It was amazing though, to have all the build up about the QF before the game and then to take a man in the air after 3 mins - you couldn't write it
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Harsh decision there
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Yellow was 100% correct decision in accordance with the laws.
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Tell me about it. I'm glad they have relaxed the laws on it a bit. The Payne decision although correct at the time was just stupid.toml wrote:nathan wrote:No offence, but your playing sarries. No Englishman likes them apart from actual sarrie fans and some of them have lost faithtoml wrote:Rory_Gallagher wrote:Chunky Norwich wrote:When certain crowds behave like Ulster are tonight, they are labelled all sorts of things.
At least they aren't calling the referee a cheat. They have a right to feel aggrieved.
Now, travel back under your bridge please.
They are calling for the obvious decision, just like Austin Healy an Englishman
No offence to me. Austin said it wasn't as bad as it looked, saw the replay and then said straight red.
It was amazing though, to have all the build up about the QF before the game and then to take a man in the air after 3 mins - you couldn't write it
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Okay and it was made 10 minutes ago, so move on.
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Chunky Norwich wrote:Yellow was 100% correct decision in accordance with the laws.
Yeah I would have been happy if it had of been a yellow 18 months ago too,
But to red an accidental and to yellow an intentional foul of similar ilk feels we have been a bit hard done by
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Good drop goal.
Ulster are clearly trying to use McCloskey to make ground and give the offload to either Gilroy or Henderson as our main attacking weapons, but it is leaving Henderson out of the ruck area a lot more than I would like to see.
Ulster are clearly trying to use McCloskey to make ground and give the offload to either Gilroy or Henderson as our main attacking weapons, but it is leaving Henderson out of the ruck area a lot more than I would like to see.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Looked offside to me
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Burger's hand actually touches Nick Williams' calf yet he's accused of using no arms in the tackle.
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That seemed harsh.
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Yeah it was harsh, wonder what 9 was getting grumpy about
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How was that not a penalty to sarries? It was either knocked back or a deliberate knock on
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What place are the Saracens in the Premiership?
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That was awful defending. Far, far too narrow.
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Rory_Gallagher wrote:What place are the Saracens in the Premiership?
St the top I think?
Why do you ask?
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nathan wrote:Rory_Gallagher wrote:What place are the Saracens in the Premiership?
St the top I think?
Why do you ask?
Well, we are playing them. So I was wondering where they are placed...
I knew they would be near the top anyway.
Thanks though.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Ah cool, no need for the.......
Ulster losing a bit of composure at the minute, need half time to come
Ulster losing a bit of composure at the minute, need half time to come
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nathan wrote:Ah cool, no need for the.......
Ulster losing a bit of composure at the minute, need half time to come
No need for what? The dots?
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For being a boobie
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wind it in
nathan wrote:For being a boobie
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All getting a bit heated here and in the game.
For what it's worth Burger has made multiple no arms tackles at knee height and no arms rucking too in the Prem, so I'm pleased to finally see him penalised for it.
For what it's worth Burger has made multiple no arms tackles at knee height and no arms rucking too in the Prem, so I'm pleased to finally see him penalised for it.
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He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt
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Trust me Yappy, things could be a lot worse both on here and in the game. Things aren't really heated here, just a few comments from the usual immature suspects.
I think Saracens will be very happy with how things turned out in that half.
I think Saracens will be very happy with how things turned out in that half.
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yappysnap wrote:He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt
Careful, before someone thinks you're an Ulster fan and starts on our team/fans for no reason.
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yappysnap wrote:He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt
What a charming thing to say about a rugby club.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November
Barrett with a couple of punches there, Poite manages to close his eyes in time.
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Chunky Norwich wrote:yappysnap wrote:He epitomises Sarries, he's a brave, blunt, violent, grafting, sometimes dirty c*nt
What a charming thing to say about a rugby club.
Don't cry.
He'd probably agree with it
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Well isn't that rich. I was actually counting down how long it would take before that comment fished out Chunky. He didn't disappoint.
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I
I think it's pretty even at the moment, the wind (if as bad as they mention) is worth 4 points. Will be interesting to see how they come out in the second half
Little unfair to lump me in with that lot lolRory_Gallagher wrote:Trust me Yappy, things could be a lot worse both on here and in the game. Things aren't really heated here, just a few comments from the usual immature suspects.
I think Saracens will be very happy with how things turned out in that half.
I think it's pretty even at the moment, the wind (if as bad as they mention) is worth 4 points. Will be interesting to see how they come out in the second half
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yappysnap wrote:Barrett with a couple of punches there, Poite manages to close his eyes in time.
What was that? I didn't see it... or is that tongue in cheek
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I didn't see it either?toml wrote:yappysnap wrote:Barrett with a couple of punches there, Poite manages to close his eyes in time.
What was that? I didn't see it... or is that tongue in cheek
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28 mins approx, he runs in to join a maul and throws an uppercutish punch
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