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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 07 May 2016, 8:32 pm

First topic message reminder :

With so many different nations it'll take so many different threads to put all the news on the site. So, here's this thread.

Kompany to miss Euro 2016


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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 7:53 pm

Cynicism aside, nothing quite like England in an international tournament.
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Post by Stella Sat 11 Jun 2016, 7:57 pm

GSC wrote:Cynicism aside, nothing quite like England in an international tournament.

So much hope.
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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 7:57 pm

All XI knew the words to the National Anthem!
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 7:58 pm

I think England fans are louder than the Russian ones, at least.

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:05 pm

Decent start...
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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:06 pm

Lovely play from Rooney and Walker
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Post by Hero Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:07 pm

So wish Kane would stop taking corners.

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:08 pm

Must be a yellow?
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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:08 pm

Hero wrote:So wish Kane would stop taking corners.

I just mentioned this. Annoying.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:09 pm

Gazza-moment for Harry Kane!

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:12 pm

Gerrard had scored as captain from midfield by this point in the 2010 world cup, wake up Wayne
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:14 pm

GSC wrote:Gerrard had scored as captain from midfield by this point in the 2010 world cup, wake up Wayne

And don't forget Becks against Paraguay in 2006!

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:17 pm

Sterling is tearing their RB to shreds
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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:18 pm

Without Dzagoev & Denisov, this lot are abysmal

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:20 pm

Been tempted to start with Sturridge, don't fancy their CBs ability to turn and run.
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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:22 pm

Been a while since I've seen an England team so fluid. Playing wide players is making the overlapping FBs so much more dangerous
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:22 pm

Lallana has squandered two decent chances now.

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:23 pm

Lallana & Sterling won't trouble the back of the net, so huge pressure on Kane

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:23 pm

First one I agree, didn't really have an angle on the second.
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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:26 pm

Rose needs to be careful, twice now hes run himself into trouble
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:29 pm

England's early intensity has now dribbled away; Russia seeing more of the ball.

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:31 pm

Amongst their own CBs mind.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:32 pm

It hurts watching Adam Lallana shoot
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm

Kane shouldn't be on corners because he can't take a decent corner
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:33 pm

GSC wrote:Amongst their own CBs mind.

Think they'll settle for a point, so they won't mind too much.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:35 pm

Decent from England..Sterling and Lallana been our best players so far and Rooney having a decent enough game. Kane not looking good at all for me...add in the corners and he's quickly becoming a dissapointment. For the passes Rooney is making in his role I think Vardy is much better suited..also has to be said the one problem we have had this far is that when we have broken there's a real lack of support in the box.

Decent enough though lets just hope we can get a goal.

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Post by Born Slippy Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:35 pm

I can literally see no good reason for Kane to take corners. There are at least 4 players I'd have ahead of him and that ignores the fact he is good in the air!

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:36 pm

Kanes done ok as a lone frontman, occupying the centre backs so the players in behind have the room.
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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:41 pm

That's all well and good but you either need to hold ball up so others can get forward into the box..or you have to occupy and then turn and run to be there for the crosses that those who have got in behind are putting it.

It's not all his fault, the team especially midfield there are very deep...I mean that sterling break just then..he's pushed forward with pace..by time the 2nd wave of players have caught up Russia had 7 men back and sterling a had to pass back.

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:43 pm

They aren't really asking him to hold it up at the moment.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:45 pm

Rooney and Rose playing well. Walker also showing why he's ahead of Clyne

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:45 pm

Fantastic half from England. Done everything bar score. And they've been pretty close to doing that too.
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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:45 pm

Nothing surprising about us not scoring. Lallana & Sterling offer nothing in terms of goals.

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:46 pm

Russia also look worse than Albania

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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm

Good half from England, though they'll be disappointed not to be ahead.

Lallana is having one of his best games in an England shirt, with Walker offering excellent support. Sterling and Kane started well, but have faded somewhat. Haven't seen a lot of Rooney or Alli, in truth.

It's not reasonable to expect Russia to be as poor in the second half, so England will need to replicate the high-intensity that they showed.

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm

The way this game has gone I'd have Sturridge on for Kane. Think this is better suited for him in behind
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Post by Holymiky Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm

I think this is where we will see if we can carry it on as Russia can only get better surely in this half.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:49 pm

About to say that GSC, I'm not sure Engalnd know what they want from him. Is he a lone frontman who holds up and allows others to get in...in which case midfield of Rooney/Alli has to get supporting quicker..or is he a man to get in behind..in which case in not sure he's a better option than Vardy for that..

Good half (wouldn't stretch to fantastic, Russia are without couple of key players) we have looked positive, created some chances..just need a goal. Longer we go without one the more I worry.

One thing needs to change at half time....someone in the team man up and tell Kane 'your absolutely crud at corners don't think about taking them again'

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:50 pm

I can only think of Rose as a better corner option. Lallana and Sterling wouldn't be, Rooney is a bit too floaty. Alli?

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Post by GSC Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:50 pm

They're doubling up on Sterling which is why Rose had so much room at the end of the half.

Rooneys played well from deep, Allis dropping into the space well.
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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 8:51 pm

Kane has done nothing, he doesn't put the hard work in. Just waits for the glory. Don't get me started on why he's taking corners. He needs to be subbed.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:03 pm

We've won 3 tournament games in ten years!!! Wow horrific! Didn't realise we were that bad..thats 5 tournaments?! Can't be right surely..

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Post by Stella Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:05 pm

I think it's since 2006?
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:05 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:We've won 3 tournament games in ten years!!! Wow horrific! Didn't realise we were that bad..thats 5 tournaments?! Can't be right surely..

Presumably that doesn't include 2006:

Euro 2008 - DNQ
WC 2010 - Slovenia
Euro 2012 - Sweden and Ukraine
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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:06 pm

England started this half very flat.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:08 pm

Duty..how did you keep faith and positivity with that record! I mean I was always baffled at your eternal faith in them..now even more so.

Yeh very flat...Rooney didn't even bother chasing after losing that last ball. Russia keeping ball and frustrating an England team that don't look interested in pressing any longer. Foothold soon is essential.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:09 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Duty..how did you keep faith and positivity with that record! I mean I was always baffled at your eternal faith in them..now even more so.

Yeh very flat...Rooney didn't even bother chasing after losing that last ball. Russia keeping ball and frustrating an England team that don't look interested in pressing any longer. Foothold soon is essential.

2012 and '14 England had a half-decent chance - 2006/2010 and now...very little.

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm

This England side couldn't hit a barn door, subs are needed

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:13 pm

LiamB wrote:This England side couldn't hit a barn door, subs are needed
The Russian type?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:16 pm

Predictable Sterling needs to be subbed.

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